I haven't read that part yet, so I wouldn't know. However, God is God. He created man, therefore he can erase man as well. It's mankind who is messing around with death. Think of it this way: If somebody spent 5 years and ten million dollars making a beautiful clay sculpture, would it be illegal for the creator himself to destroy it? No, as he has a purpose of doing so, but that action would be illegal for somebody else.
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God didn't spend 5 years or 10 million dollars making earth. A more suitable analogy would be if a man, simply by thinking made a beautiful structure and could easily make one far more beautiful, simply by thinking would it be ok for someone to destroy it? I think destroying it wouldn't be the nicest thing to do but it doesn't really affect the creator.
Yeah...he creates a clay pot, and decides to send it to hell for all of its imperfections. What that pot should really do is apologize to its creator for all the flaws that the same creator put into him in the first place, 'cause that's the only way to escape Hell. If you blame yourself and accept the guilt for your flaws, than you go to heaven. Yay.
TB,
When you create someone conscious, whether it be through natural reproduction, cloning, or thinking (as God allegedly can), you have no rights to control it. God would have no right to kill us, the same way parents have no right to kill their child. Besides, a knowledgeable, all-good and all-powerful god wouldn't kill anyone, so it's a moot point; even if God exists, he won't kill or torture or send anyone to hell, unless A), he's a self-interested bastard, B) he has about as much power as the Assistant Deputy Undersecretary of Agriculture, or C) he's a rider of the divine short bus.
Totally. If someone designs a building, and then decides they don't like it after it's been built and there are people living/working inside it, they can totally destroy it whenever they want. All design firms have that written into their contracts. Don't you guys know anything?
SC: I see. So, hasn't read the Bible yet, but knows exactly what God wants. Typical religiousperson, I'd say.
These fundies keep asking these sci-fi questions. the relationship to god described in this post seems to be more like a scientist to a hypothetical AI capable of independent thought and with the ability to feel pain than like parents to their child.
Agree about Maronan's remarks.
Good post rob.
FYI, John Fogerty no longer owns the rights to his own music, so yes, he has no right to destroy it even though he created it.
Crosis - the clay sculpture is worth much more than Tsu, despite not being sentient, right? ;)
Well, now I know your name, Winston ;) analogies of inanimate objects, you guys can go be emo and I'll change during by the time you've stopped crying.
As for my age, I am 15. So? I've gone through enough in life to be 27. You might've had a head of "pudding" when you were 15, but please don't generalize that for everybody in the general age group.
Now, this quote is taken out of context. If you guys read the entire procession of the thread, then you would know that I responded to many of the arguments posed here.
As for now,
Cheers.
And keep on being your mature selves.
As for any questions, or general wishes to debate or to insult or whatever you all do, please email me at cerisster@gmail.com.
Thank you Winston. I enjoyed reading the responses of these people.
We're not being "emos." We're showing you the flaw in your analogy.
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Yeah, that's one of my pet peeves with fundillogism: they say "this is Dog, he made you, worship him". It's like saying to a kid: "OK, this is your mommy. She's a STD-ridden crack whore, it is because of her you were born seropositive and hooked on drugs and she abandonned you in a public toilet, but now you have to love and respect her."
"Think of it this way: If somebody spent 5 years and ten million dollars making a beautiful clay sculpture, would it be illegal for the creator himself to destroy it? No, as he has a purpose of doing so, but that action would be illegal for somebody else."
Abortion.
Great! You've just destroyed all Christian arguments against abortions. If you and your spouse create a fetus and the woman spends gallons of blood to sustain it, would it be illegal for the creators to order the destruction of it? No, as they have a purpose of doing so.
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