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discombobulated #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]

Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?

Gerrard Pedersen #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After another very specific prediction of the Big Bang theory was confirmed]

i dont see how this proves the big bang,

the scientists could be making wrong conclusions, it could maybe be somthing else,

who am i supposed to believe, scientists who dont know shit compared to God, or God??

Chilocanth #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Advice to a woman whose husband is serving an 11 year jail sentence]

"For richer, for poorer. For better or for worse." has got to mean something. You both vowed to stay with each other no matter what. If you love him, stay with him. If you don't love him, you should still stay with him. It's a commitment.

Technically, hubby has the discretion to divorce his wife in this case and it wouldn't be a sin, but then both of them would need to stay single until one of them passed away.

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After it was pointed out that the 'separation from God' version of hell is logically impossible if he's omnipresent]

No, you being present with God cause He's omnipresent even though you don't believe in Jesus is the stupidest thing ever.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On the Bible]

never in history has it been scientificlly determined to have a single flaw.

You will find websites saying other wise,
course you will find websites saying that the haullocost (sp?) never happened either and that the jews fronted the whole thing.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Plus, the bible hasn't yet been proven wrong or fallable. Yes there have been several links and websites saying they have, but shoot guys, there is a website proving that there wasn't a haullacost(sp?) and that all the jews fronted the 6 million deaths to make the germans look bad. If people can be so easily thrown by that one little thing from a huge action that happened, then of course you will be thrown and lead to beleive something about something so minor and detailed.

khazul #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Replying to 'if someone had a gun to your kid's head and asked if you believed in God']

Trust in God. All things work for his Glory and it will be best in the end. Thus, never deny God. If your child is killed he won't have to go through the hardships of life and is with the lord so double bonus to him.

Chilocanth #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

No one, without God, can love someone purely. Human love has motives and personal desires. God's love is unconditional.

Consider relief workers. Christian and secular groups both go to remote places to help people. Some would say that both groups were loving. I'd say that for the most part, the Christians are going out of love for God and people. I'd say that the secular types are going to satisfy a need within themselves (warm fuzzies, "I made a difference, looks good on a resume, etc).

Unregenerated sinners can not love someone with God's love.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

looking at rocks with instruments that we made with our own so called intelligence with nothing to actually compare anything to.

versus a book of historically correct facts and evidence of a perfect geneollogy that dates back nearly 6500 years ago...

and I saw this...
What evidence are you considering? Nothing has been proven either way, that is b/c of the lack of or lack of reliability of the so called evidence.

We christian discard all your scientist's so called evidence for the same reason scientist discard the bible.

I repeat, your evidence is no more valid than the bible.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Replying to 'if none-Christian faith healers can achieve similar results as Christian ones, it would seem to point to something other than the Holy Spirit doing the actual work. A trancendent universal force independent of specific religion, or ancestral spirits, perhaps?']

You are right, there is some other spirit doing the work, and its name is satan.

God is black and white ladies and Gentleman, and if you are not saved by Christ, then you are against Him and doing satans work whether you want to or not. God is black and white ladies and Gentleman, and if you are not saved by Christ, then you are against Him and doing satans work whether you want to or not.

4 of satans best lies

1. Making you think you are not saved
2. Making you think you are saved
3. making you think that doing Good will get you eternal life
4. Letting you gain wordly intelligence which proclaims to be above Gods word causing you to believe that there is no such place.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

If you learn from your parents that apples are purple, and that you beleive the color red is purple and pruple is red, you beleive that it is true.

However, unless you stay at home your whole, in security of your limitations, you will soon find out taht others thik differently and that they infact realized the truth.

khazul #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Of course Harry Potter isn't about Christianity. The reasons it opposes Christianity is that it supports magic. Magic is bad according to Christians. In the old testament you were commanded to kill anyone who was a witch. So you don't think kids really get into Harry Potter adn try to do magic and stuff? Ok, that's you opinion. All I want to ask is when is the last time you worked with kids? L[ord]O[f]T[he]R[ings] is alright because magic isn't it's main theme and if you know anything about the books the only people who could use magic were semi-gods sent from the west (or god) to help battle Sauron. It's the Christian idea of God sending the Holy Spirit to empower and help us in our daily struggle against Satan.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[The fundie definition of 'freethinking'!]

It wasn't choosing to be a free thinker, it was choosing to be free of thinking.

Our mind has limits, and everything we judge and measure comes from those limitations.

Freeing yourself of them give you the clear veiw of the truth outside of the walls that block you. That wall being 'thinking'"

Ander #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Arguing for the veracity of the Columbine martyrdom story about Cassie Bernall after it was exposed as an urban legend]

Hmm.. Maybe things we THINK are PROVEN, are really HOAXES.

In fact, this HOAX existed so LONG, someone wrote a BOOK about it.

W.Y.R.I.W.Y.S.2 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On Jehovah's Witnesses]

I don't know if i'm wrong, but i heard that they believe that only 144 000 people go to heaven because it's literaly wrote as this somewhere in the bible, while milions of them still anoying people knocking at their door trying to push their retarded beliefs and convert while it seems clear that they're just a bounch of lost dumbfuck who better likes to see their childrens die than to get blood transfusion...

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On the Canaanites, who in the Old Testament were slaughtered, men, women and children, by the invading Hebrews]

The people against God was actually on Gods land and thus was TRESSPASSING, and infact it says that if a person is tresspassing, you are allowed to defend your home even if death is needed for protection- it is not considered murder. No sin

embodiment777 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Arguing against Christianity being called a religion because it's "God reaching out to man, not man reaching out to God", despite the dictionary definition of 'religion']

Besides if you would have read my post completely instead of looking for a petty argument you would have read that 2000 years ago there were no dictionaries. So what makes you think that a book that contains all meanings and explainations of the english language is correct? Expecially since it was written like no more than 200 years ago!

DeadMan Walking #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Right after quoting a biologist who wrote 'When scientists speak of evolution as a theory they do not mean that it is a mere speculation. It is a theory in the same sense as the proposition that the Earth is round rather than flat is a theory']

So, even in the scientific community evolution has not been proven to be valid.

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Muslim = BAD. It doesn't matter if they're extremists or normal they're still MUSLIMS. Muslims are responsible for a huge amount of crime throughout the world. There is an overwhelming amount of world crime caused by Muslims doing what they consider 'normal'. That includes Christian bashing, rape of white women and murder. Islam when practiced according to its faith is not the problem. It's the false Muslims who shape it. Islam is out of control and must be taken care of. God bless America.

POD_CHRISTIANS? #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

God does not cause sickness and disease. When you sin (Christian or not), you move out of the covering of God and are susceptible.

Additionally, God created doctors and gave them the knowledge. Use commen sense and see a doctor if you have a problem.

learboy #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Unfortunately, some don't see the shame is such a lifestyle and that is why they promote it and endorse it in everyway to the youth of America. They are cleverly trying to utilize the influence of the public educational system to promote their agenda. You say the "gay lifestyle" is NOT a belief system, then please explain to me why there are Gay Churches???? Sounds like a belief system to me my good friend.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After being asked to show evidence for God's existence]

theres no way to prove it without seeing him but about 30 years ago science heard a radioactive "boom" lost in space. it has been guessed to hav been the boom from the earths creation. scientists hav also discovered a great square mass of matter out in space believed to be heaven.

TwistedSketch #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After being asked to explain what sin was commited by babies and blood transfusion recipients to warrant AIDS]

I said it can be, not always. In the case of sexual immorality, it is. Not in the case of the baby. And not in the case of most transfusions, either, unless they had done something horrible and hadn't repented.

bob_the_warrior #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

He can not be disproven either!!
Faith is all we need to belive and have proof of GOD.
although i can not prove God YOU can not disprove GOD. Thank you.
geez why are u all so thick headed u dont have faith? or too lazy to belive? plz read the proof! The bible.

Treylis #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Replying to thread started by another Christian; the topic title was provocative, but what was said was that the Bible should be respected but taken with a grain of salt because it was written for the ancients]

too long, didnt read, but i completely disagree with your thread title and it doesnt matter what you wrote, because you can never prove that your right. so shut up and stop trying to destroy the faith of the people that truly believe in the bible. your really stupid if you tink you can convince people that the bible is wrong, because its not wrong, its right because i believe its right.

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On the rather unwholesome idea that Jewish people killed in the Holocaust are now in hell for eternity because they didn't accept Jesus]

If the gassed jews are in hell then they're in hell. It doesn't change the way I feel about God. I think that most probably are (except the children). God plainly states He sends no one to hell, but can only save people from hell. He gave people free will to choose heaven or hell... it's actually a choice. I infact believe that since God desires us to be like Him then eventually everyone will end up in Heaven since I don't believe in eternal punishment as justfication. This may go against my Christian beliefs but it's how I truly feel and if I'm wrong... oh well.

['Is there a point where we should reject a powerful tyrant's authority even at great risk of personal injury?']

Yeah if you want to go to hell. I don't.

Asahel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

But Kuuenbu, "Creation" is held by its adherants to be as much of a "theory" as is "Evolution" by its adherants. Both are actually religious doctrines (of Christianity and Humanism, respectively) and "origin-myths" (to swipe a phrase from anthropology), it's just that most (though not all) Humanists are willing to admit it.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On being asked why Christianity should be taken more seriously than any other religion]

cause of all the proof available. its historically acurate. non-christian manuscripts describe things in it like the flood and jonah and the whale which people wouldnt regularly believe in. one dude wrote that the skys did turn black early and the was an earthquake and people did rise from the dead when Jesus was crucified. And he wasnt a Christian until he saw it all.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On the tower of Babel]

Plus there is this lil dude named Satan? yeah. As long as the people did not beleive in God, there are then capabilities that Satan could give them... ungodly wisdom maybe??? Wow, look at our world today!! We know millions of languages.

sniff #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

All that aside, do you live in a freakin' cave? Do you have any gay friends? Good grief, if you want to talk about homosexuality and consequences, as my dead grandfather. Yep, gay, and dead at 56. AIDS. Most of my gay friends are on the same route. Every time one of my friends comes out of the closet I cry. Not because of sin, but because I know how they are going to die. Its a dangerous road they are on. Homosexuality is rarely about two commited life partners. It is usually about getting laid a lot from a lot of different people.

Chilocanth #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The continued existence of the Jews proves there is a God. (Think about what this means for a moment).

Why would man develop a religious system like Judaism then spend all of his time rejecting it? Surely man would come up with something easier.

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