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Ander #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

All objects whose creation has been observed have been man-made, and require design and intelligence. Even a ball of mud requires design and intelligence. We've never observed something being made without design, intelligence, or method."

"It's pretty much a fact that if you ask anybody if they like grapes with seeds or grapes with no seeds better, they will say grapes with no seeds. The way grapes produce is by using feces as fertilizer to spread their seed that is eaten, but if "early man" only ate seedless fruits as a preference (and he spit out all the seeds), how would fruits reproduce in the first place?"

"Humans wear clothes. Scientists are still trying to decipher at how clothes came to be. But the point is, we all wear clothes, but why? Because it's in our "genetic makeup" to wear clothes when it gets cold out? What about in tropical areas? Why not just move there and go naked? Even though people wear less there, they don't go naked. Man is shameful of his nakedness because he discovered it to be that way (Genesis). Also, if man developed his shamefulness of his nakedness over time, how would the species reproduce "millions of years ago", if a man was afraid to be naked in front of a woman?"

"The Creation was directly observed by Adam and Eve

RevLovejoy #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

more and more it is seeming to be the Evolutionists... [are] just changing the theory again to match what they have found rather than just stopping..... and rather than letting the theory dictate the facts let the facts dictate the theory.

ArchxAngel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

If you learn from your parents that apples are purple, and that you beleive the color red is purple and pruple is red, you beleive that it is true.

However, unless you stay at home your whole, in security of your limitations, you will soon find out taht others thik differently and that they infact realized the truth.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

i didnt read the article cause i dont have time. i have to leave in a bit but i saw the subject and i just want to point out a couple things.

1. scientists are even saying that there was most likely like 99% a worldwide flood.

2. wood (the same kind Noah used) has been found at the top of mount Arat(where the Bible says the ark landed). The bible said that the ark was above every mountain so thats how it got to the top in case your wondering.

3. explain the grand canyon

4. there have been fossils of fishes on the top of mountains. explain how they got there other than this.

5. there are many ancient documents on stone tabs that are almost exactly like the flood story. many point out that only one mans family survived.

asbesttes #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Uh , buddy why dont u read about hitler. Ill get the name of the murderer for u tomorrow and then youll be happy. What is a devout evolutionist A DEVOUT EVOLUTIONIST! what does devout mean ask urself. DEVOUT EVOLUTIONIST=Atheist Atheist= no god no god= no purpose theres some deductive reasoning for ya! And yes some creationist believe in evolution .. . ill argue against that if u want me to. Really why are u trying to deny this? What are u afraid of huh ....God? heheh

Asahel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The descendants of Noah's fancier specimens (behemoth, leviathan, velociraptor, et cetera, et al) do not seem to have adapted very well at all! to the brutal climate shift, and thus to have died out fairly thoroughly, although some question remains as to just when...

Asahel #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On the unconstitutionality of teaching creationism]

Not really. If they used the Genesis account, it covers Christianity, Judaism (Orthodox Judaism, at least), and Islam. If they just do Genesis 1:1 ("In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.") then that covers pretty much every account of it but atheism, which says it isn't a religion anyway and therefore shouldn't complain--- its doctrine is already taught.

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Yes we have similar genetics to animals..but you know what, our genes match rats more then they match apes..and we have similar genes to that of house plants. You call it ancestry. I had no idea my great, great, great, aunt was a cactus. meanwhile.. I have yet for you to find somthing irrational about creationism.

datgurl11 [TPF] #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

HEY YA"LL. IVE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY> IM GOING TO FUCKING HEAVEN. I KNOW IT> I SWEAR TO GOD ALMIGHTY BY MY LIFE IM GOING TO HEAVEN. YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNNNNNNNNNOOOOTTT CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE< I SWEAR. I SWEAR> I SWEAR> HOW CAN I GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS>.???????????? I FUCKING KNOW IT. ITS IN MY HEART. I KNNNOOOWWWWWWW IT. NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER> GOT IT>? THAT is HOW sTRONG IT IS> WHEN YOU KNOW, THEN YOU KNOW IT,. WELL GODAMN, WHEN YOU ALL ARE STILL WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD PICK BUDISM OVER CHRISTIANITY ILL BE SITTING NEXT TO JESUS> I SWEAR ONE DAY WHENEVER I DIE, JESUS IIS COMING TO LIFT ME UP IN GLORY AND HES SAVED ME< BY GOD HE SAVED ME> AND IM GOING TO LIVE WITH HIM FOR ETERNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM THHHHHAAAAATT SUUUURE. THERE IS NO QUESTION.

Wegs #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Ok Leon, I don't get it. A defendant is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. So God exists until He is proven not to exist. Making Sense....... You just contradicted yourself with your own example. Poorly put.

Semper_Fi #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The idea of theories is that they will be either proven or disproven. If they are proven repeateadly then it become a law... IE gravity was a theory once. It has since become a law. It became a law becasue they were able to prove it 100% (i would have questions if tehy didnt ).

JesusChica #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

being disgusting?
threatning people?

neither of those were my intentions-i was stating the Truth-i was not threatning anyone-if some are uncomfortable with hearing the bitter Truth that without God they are nothing, then so be it-they have heard the Truth-the Truth is, if you don't have God, you're going to hell-and, no, i'm never going to stop telling people that-since people seem to respond better to things that scare them, that's why i brought up the reality of hell, instead of the reality of heaven-if you have a problem with hearing of the Truth, then i suggest you learn to take it, because if you're not saved, you're going to experience it, so if you cringe just by reading the words, then maybe you should start thinking about what it will be like when you have to go through it
again. i'm not trying to threaten people, or be disgusting-and, i'm still not convinced my stating what is true is either of those-i'm telling the Truth-and, if some people can't take the Truth, then oh well

JesusFreakGuy #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[On Wicca]its on the same page as Buddism, Islam, Satanism, Scientology, Antagonist, Atheism, Mormonism, Jehovahs Witness, New Age, basically all false, but no where near Christianity. is it a real religion- nope- just another cult really oh yeah, what i also forgot-'I'm undecided to the subject but are glad that they have something to believe in.' Well, i can easily say i believe in beating up women or murduring people just as well. Does that make me not right then?

EW2k3 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

When will you realize that marriage was made for heterosexual men and women for the soul purpose of having kids. Marriage first came about in the Roman Catholic Church so don't even try to argue with me. Marriage is a privelage, not a right. Homosexuals don't deserve that right.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[After being asked to show evidence for God's existence]

theres no way to prove it without seeing him but about 30 years ago science heard a radioactive "boom" lost in space. it has been guessed to hav been the boom from the earths creation. scientists hav also discovered a great square mass of matter out in space believed to be heaven.

thatonedude #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

A life without eternity isn't worth liveing, if ur atheist, go kill yourself. seriously, we're basically here to get ready for eternity, so if we don't believe then there's nothing to get ready for, so basically screw life if ur an atheist.

russell182 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Told to another theist who was rationally questioning the doctrine of Hell as illogical and unfair]

I seriously recommend you don't apply science to death. It will lead you to convince yourself of arguements that simply deceive you. Eternal life comes through faith, nothing more... nothing less.

R2_Wildfire #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I dont know about you guys, but I don't care how my chicken or meat is killed. Whether its drowned, suffocated, hacked into bits, however, its still going to end up in my stomach and then in a drainage thingy. It really doesn't matter. Whether chickens are stomped on, thrown against a wall, we're still going to eat them. Why does it matter?

TAN #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

This subject sucks. How the hell are you a christian yet believe that crap? besides eveloution is so over talked its sick... You are stupid for bringing this up again. Anyway, whats your damn problem? We were cave men? yea right! God brought all the animals to Adam and had him name them. You think a [censored] cave man could name every animal known to man? Oh and it happened over billions of years? yea that fits with the 6 days stated in the bible, that was probably a typo right? If you really are a christian I suggest you actually take some time to read the Bible.

Forgiven490 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Doesn't it make you a little nervous that the God/Jesus of the Bible in which you don't beleive in, can't be disproved?

At one time the wisest men on earth believed the earth was flat, the sun rotated around the earth, the atom couldn't be split and on and on.

If I'm wrong, I just die and never know if I'm wrong. If you're wrong...well, lets just say, bring a fan.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Replying to 'unsupported assertion']why don't you just go away? Let the Christians debate..you better pray to your chance God that I don't ever become a moderator or something. your entire brain is an unsupported assertion.

sweet&sour #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[Comparing masturbation to murder]

And to the bright ones who say 'if it makes you feel good, why not.' So your saying, if I kill someone, merely because I want to feel power, and feel alive/good... It's ok, because what.. It makes me feel good? haha...

BleakBassPlayer #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

ok ill put it this way then..... being gay is not normal..... there i said it..... now accuse me of being a hate monger, ect., ect. its disgusting gross and not normal... why do you think a majority of churches wont do it... O well this only means The coming of Jesus is one day closer. Prepare my friends for we all know what happend at sodom and gomorah.

inverter #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

One more thing that is always said by atheists is "No one has ever been killed because of atheism." I beg to differ..I believe that every death since the beginning of time was due to atheism. Even the crusades...I believe every single solitary sin, even little white lies, even by a Christian, is caused by atheism...