[In a thread titled "Woman are Dirt" kerwin goes off topic to explain why a woman's brain is allows them to be better cleaners than men. He even attempts to show scientific proof.]
This is off topic. Has anyone ever considered that the average woman is wired to be more artistic than the average man because of the difference in brain function between men and women. Being artistic women notice dirt more and work to resolve the problem while men have trouble noticing there is a problem in the first place. Let's a man who is not artistically inclined cleans a room and then a woman who is artistically inclined comes behind him and cleans it again. To a man he just wasted his time. The average man is never going to clean as good as a woman because his brain is not constructed to do the job while her's is.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shut up you brain-dead misogynist. I don't believe you actually have kissed a real woman, certainly not the same one twice.
He's also never seen my house. Populated by more women than men and quite grubby (except for the kitchen, because we don't want to die from food-borne illnesses).
Also, it's "as well as", not "as good as". Argh!
Men not artistically inclined? Da Vinci? Michealengelo? Stevie Ray Vaughn?
Men not able to notice dirt? I notice it quite readily. And I do have a penis.
And guess what? Some of the filthiest people I've known have been women. Sorry, experience begs to differ from your view. Men and women do tend to think differently, but it is more from society than anything biological in nature.
"The average man is never going to clean as good as a woman because his brain is not constructed to do the job while her's is."
If I were feeling malicious, I'd say you made that up as an excuse for you being a lazy, sexist fuck who leaves all the work to be done by your poor wife. But nevermind, I'll go and make myself a sandwich.
Funny. Dave Barry wrote almost the exact same thing. Except that was in jest and absolutely hilarious.
Actually, Dave Barry stopped being funny around... well, actually he was never funny.
<<< Has anyone ever considered that the average woman is wired to be more artistic than the average man because of the difference in brain function between men and women. >>>
Evidence of this is ... ? I mean, well over half of the famous artists I know of were men. (That could be a function of sexism in medieval society, of course, but it does cast a bit of doubt on the assertion that men can't be artistic.)
If there is a difference, it's more likely that the average man is never going to clean as well because he doesn't give a damn. At least until things get dangerously unsanitary, I know I don't. I've always resisted cleaning my room mostly because once I do, I can't find anything anymore. Everyone who has a reason to be looking for something in my room (that is to say, me) knows where it is; why mess with it?
My room is a wreck. My sister's room is a wreck. My entire family is very artistic, except Dad. (I guess our artistic nature is genetic, from Mom's side.) Either way, it applied to me, despite my Y chromosome. One of my (female) high school teachers did notice every speck of dirt, but she was germ-phobic and not typical by any means.
Put simply, there is nothing you can say about "the average man" and "the average woman" that implies an innate difference in mental capacities. (Except that men tend to be better at spatial-relationship tasks, and women tend to be more, um, like, they say what, um...
...Articulate. There, that's what I meant.)
ALSO: How dare anyone suggest that Dave Barry wasn't funny!
I am not going to say there are not differences in the physical and mental patterns of men and women, I believe there are differences between them.
However, to say that women should clean because they are able to do it better because they are mentally superior in that area, that is the same justifaction that our slave owners used to justify their actions.
Men don't clean? God, Jesus and every preacher/pastor/priest has brainwashed a billion people. And no, just mentioning something on the internet does not automatically make it a fact, rational or in any way based in the real world.
Women are just maid to clean, is that it?
Sheesh, this is yet another case of people doing their darnedest to overgeneralize about large groups of people; it's usually a bad idea, and this one is even more lame than most.
~David D.G.
Well this guy has obviously never seen my room (and no misogynist ever will). And his explanation sure as fuck doesn't explain why women were historically unwelcome in art societies and institutions. Anyway, since we're operating on stereotypes here, don't artists tend to be messy slobs?
women are not "wired" to be that way, its just in society today (altough this is shrinking) men are/were raised to show no real emotion or act with artisy style because it was wrong, for some reason i've failed to notice. Women didnt actually have the restrictions emotionally that men had, as such, could express themselves more.
infact, if men had never been raised that way to begin with, i could bet that men and women may act the VERY same way (minus of course incidents involving PMS, as the hormonal status of the woman changes drastacilly)
Kerwin, I hereby invite you and all your fundie friends to my apartment for dinner tonight. Just be sure to watch where you step, lest you trip over some wrinkled clothing, junk mail, boxes from when I moved in five months ago, or other assorted crap on the floor. :)
Ah, so apparently I'm nether female nor artistic, because my room is a mess: dolls in varying stages of completion, paint, brushes, needles, pins, random thread..... My ex's room, though, his was very very clean and neat. Does that make him female?
Uh...no, just no. Absolute truth here: I spent the morning in the studio, have paint still beneath my fingernails, and am planning to go back to the studio for the afternoon. I go there to get away from noticing how grubby the kitchen is.
Er, what?
Have you ever met an "average woman"? I know I haven't, and I AM a woman. What about an "average man"? I have a father, two brothers, two brothers-in-law, three nephews, oodles of male friends, and none of them fit the description.
I want order; MY order. Not necessarily cleanliness, but ORDER. I know this about myself and therefore I do the washing up, as I know that I would go after my husband and put stuff in the RIGHT place, if he'd do the washing up. No wasted time here.
Let's a man who is not artistically inclined cleans a room
Now, I notice the grammatical errors in that, not the dirt...
My colleague has a wife that is very disorganized. He does the washing up, as he likes to know where stuff are.
Confused?
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