Robert T. Lee #fundie

Robert T. Lee #fundie tencommandments.org

I have proved that atheism did not have an earthly and human origin, but had its origin from satan before this state of time. Out of all the responses I have received from atheists, not one has been able to intelligently and credibly dispute that fact. They are confounded that they cannot come up with a human author and earthly time of existence for their atheism. They are quick to erroneously claim that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were authored by a human, and some of them claim that Moses authored them, but they cannot name an earthly author and time of origin for their own philosophy.

Why are atheists so quick to try to attach a human to the TEN COMMANDMENTS when they cannot do so to their own philosophy? If Satan is not atheism's author and atheists cannot pinpoint a human author, perhaps their atheism came into being by a cataclysmic explosion. LOL! Or perhaps atheism brought itself into existence by its own prior nonexistence. LOL!

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old comment by Patches

Cool, I'm gonna found a religion called Skyism, and our principal belief will be that the sky is blue. Naturally, as the founder of this relgion, no person on earth would have believed that the sky was blue until I authored the documents of this revelation.
Given infinite time and infinite resources, one can conceivably learn on their own all that is true about the universe without relying on any outside knowledge. It is impossible to become a Christian without Christian influence. One would never come to the conclusion of the Christian god and its theology on their own simply by observing their surroundings. On the contrary, most atheists become so without even realizing it and with no influence from atheist thought. It is our lack of a unifying doctrine yet still all independently coming to the same conclusion that justifies us.

old comment by Sandman

"I have proved that atheism did not have an earthly and human origin,”
You did? Holy shit! Alert the media! A major breakthrough in theological thought has been accomplished in our very midst! Bobbo has logically proven the existence of God! ”but had its origin from satan before this state of time.” Sigh. Nevermind. False alarm. He is just blaming Satan and thinks that is “proof.” ”Out of all the responses I have received from atheists, not one has been able to intelligently and credibly dispute that fact.” Actually, they probably all did. But you are arguing from a position of dogma, so nothing anyone says will ever be given the status of “proof” or “evidence” or “truth,” even if your nose was rubbed in it until you choked. Why elicit responses in the first place if you clearly have not the slightest inclination to actually listen to what is said? If there is anything I can’t stand, it’s someone who spends the time when the other person is talking thinking of what they are going to say next instead of listening. ”They are confounded that they cannot come up with a human author and earthly time of existence for their atheism.” Well, that’s because “atheism” is the default setting for a human being. Gods and religion had to be constructed by human beings, either on their own if you don’t believe in a God, or with divine inspiration if you do. Take a kid, raise him in isolation without ever telling him about God. You will raise an atheist who doesn’t even know he’s an atheist. (It will work with a girl, too, in case you’re interested.) There is no “human author” of atheism because it was never “authored.” It’s a negative belief. I don’t believe in purple mosquitoes the size of ponies, and there doesn’t have to be an “author” for that disbelief before I can disbelieve in them. Hell, I just made that up off the top of my head right now, so by your logic, everyone who disbelieves in those monster bugs for the rest of time has to credit me with their belief status. ”They are quick to erroneously claim that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were authored by a human, and some of them claim that Moses authored them, but they cannot name an earthly author and time of origin for their own philosophy.” See the above response. And again, you are saying that God authored the 10 Commandments because God authored the 10 Commandments. That’s the sum total of your argument, and while that’s fine, really, you can’t claim that as any sort of proof. Technically, you can’t even prove that Moses ever existed, so your own argument can be turned against you: prove the existence of an earthly or divine author for the 10 Commandments. ”Why are atheists so quick to try to attach a human to the TEN COMMANDMENTS when they cannot do so to their own philosophy?” Well. Duh. Because the 10 Commandments exist. They do not accept the existence of a God. Therefore the 10 Commandments were authored by a human. This is your exact logic, since you say “Atheism exists. I do not accept that God created atheism, so therefore a human did.” ”If Satan is not atheism's author and atheists cannot pinpoint a human author, perhaps their atheism came into being by a cataclysmic explosion.” Sigh. You aren’t thinking clearly. A status of non-belief does not require any “author” at all. And you shouldn’t try to make jokes, you lack the proper equipment. It’s not your fault, humor requires an appreciation of the ironic and an ability to see new possibilities in expected reality, and being a Fundie kind of atrophies those skills. ”LOL!” Oh. Yes. Truly you are a master of repartee. I shall flee before you hit me with an “Oh, yeah?” or a “Sez you!” ”Or perhaps atheism brought itself into existence by its own prior nonexistence. LOL!" Sad. You finally say something that makes perfect sense, and you think you are joking.

old comment by Glazius

I suppose if you wanted a hardpoint for atheism you could point to Emile Durkheim. Cavemen may not have been atheists - don't archaeologists usually find objects they ascribe some religious function to? Like fertility idols and the like?
Durkheim's work on religious beliefs posited that whenever you bring enough people together they make themselves a god, having no other source to credit for the gestalt nature of human interaction. And the little monkey in the back of our heads likes to be around other little monkeys, so it shouldn't be a surprise that as long as there have been people, there have been gods. When I say Durkheim is a hardpoint, I mean only that until then there was no explanation for why people believed in gods. After Durkheim the possibility of an informed choice between belief and unbelief became possible. --GF

old comment by Maronan

I have proved that atheism did not have an earthly and human origin, but had its origin from satan before this state of time.

No you didn't. Prove me wrong.

Out of all the responses I have received from atheists, not one has been able to intelligently and credibly dispute that fact.

I'm sure many have. You just can't accept their explanations because you decide ahead of time what you think is true, then declare yourself infallible and refuse to admit it when you're wrong.

They are confounded that they cannot come up with a human author and earthly time of existence for their atheism.

Atheism is a lack of belief, not an idea, you dolt! Asking "who came up with the idea of atheism?" is like asking "who came up with the idea of not having computers?" The first conscious animal was an atheist. In theory, you don't even need to be conscious to be an atheist rocks are atheists. Stars are atheists. Atheism is the absence of a belief in gods, nothing more.

They are quick to erroneously claim that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were authored by a human...

The 10 commandments were written. Everything that has been written was written by a human. If you would like to make the extraordinary claim that an undiscovered non-human being wrote the 10 commandments, you will need extraordinary evidence to support it.

...and some of them claim that Moses authored them...

I certainly don't claim Moses wrote the 10 commandments. There's no evidence whatsoever that Moses ever existed.

...but they cannot name an earthly author and time of origin for their own philosophy.

On the contrary. My philosophy is that democracy is the best system of government (that we've discovered so far), and that originated in ancient Greece. I believe that the scientific method is the best way to understand the universe, and that also originated in ancient times near Greece, although it was before the ancient Greece we're familiar with. It was absorbed and wiped out by the supernaturalist ancient Greek society, and was not rediscovered until centuries later. My moral philosophy is modified utilitarianism, which has its origin in the 18th and 19th centuries, at the hands of philosophers like Jeremy Bentham. The modifications to it were authored by me, and probably by many other people independently of me. You'll notice I didn't mention atheism. That's because atheism is not a philosophy. Atheism is merely the lack of one particular belief.

Why are atheists so quick to try to attach a human to the TEN COMMANDMENTS when they cannot do so to their own philosophy?

The 10 commandments were written, and all prior writing was done by humans. We've never found any being other than a human who is capable of writing. Atheism is not a philosophy, it is the default position for everyone (and everything, for that matter). Most atheists can cite the origin for whatever philosophy they hold.

If Satan is not atheism's author and atheists cannot pinpoint a human author...

Once more, atheism is not a belief that needs an author. Asking "who invented atheism?" is like striding into an empty room and asking "who didn't put an elephant in this room?"

...perhaps their atheism came into being by a cataclysmic explosion. LOL! Or perhaps atheism brought itself into existence by its own prior nonexistence. LOL!

Straw men + LOL = Fuckwit

Robert T. Lee #fundie tencommandments.org

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