Why should people dislike a party because it's made up of primarily white people? Didn't white people build Western Civilization? Why are whites obligated to cede their countries built by their ancestors to other people from all around the world?
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Right, all the slave and Chinese architects, engineers, artists, academia and businessmen must have built America, even though the country was 90% white in 1965 and is still 72% white. I honestly don't care what your views are, but why do you still deny what you know to be truth?
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"90% white"
How do you define white? You mean llike during the period when the law kept anyone of any race except Caucasion out of the country? Or during the period when certain Caucasion ethnicities (Irish, Jews, Italian) were, for the purposes of immigration, treated as non-whites?
And I love the list of those who built this country. How about the hard-rock laborers, teachers, artists, the soldiers, the intellectals, all those guys who really built and defended the country.
"Why should people dislike a party because it's made up of primarily white people?"
Nobody dislikes the Republican Party because it is primarily white, but the fact that it is very white in America is a bad sign.
You know, when all those people (independent of their skin color) built America, they didn't built it for you, or to be the best they built it so they could have better lives - or because they were owned by somebody.
Why are whites obligated to cede their countries built by their ancestors to other people from all around the world?
Name one Western country where whites no longer have any say in the government. One might add that every single country populated by black people has, at one time or another, been obligated to cede the countries built by their ancestors to white people...
Right, all the slave and Chinese architects, engineers, artists, academia and businessmen must have built America, even though the country was 90% white in 1965 and is still 72% white.
So what you said about whites ceding control of the US to non-whites was a load of bullshit? Thank you.
@#1621548
Caucasian, not Caucasion.
Not that either spelling makes any sense. I don't know a single White person who has any Kavkaz ancestry. The word is a hangover from early 19th century goofy racist proto-anthropology.
@Anon
Your reply might have some merit if:
a) South Africa didn't have five white cabinet ministers;
b) the overwhelming majority of the population of South Africa weren't non-white;
c) rolling power outages weren't common in many Western countries; indeed, ads for appartments here show how many hours of power and how many hours out you get each week.
@Hasan Prishtina:
A) You asked for a Western country in which whites have no say in government, I gave you one. Incidentally, the black majority has no real say in government either, as the president is a corrupt as they come, but he does at least pay lip service to helping the poor blacks. Part of the glorious legacy of Nelson Mandela, that one, the population are so attached to the party he once led that they can't see past his memory to realise its current leaders are robbing them blind, $20m on his house alone!
B) See point A) you said Western, not white-majority.
C) Where exactly is this? Nowhere in the UK, Europe or the US are three-day power outages a regular occurance, either you aren't in a Western country, or you're lying.
@nazani14
Your comments regarding #1621548 were interesting. I looked up the Associated Press Style Guide (which all American newspapers, including the NY Times, uses). Apparently the word "Caucasian" ws first used by the philosopher Christoph Meiners in 1785 and originally had nothing to do with skin color. Meiner's apparently thought the Caucasians were the best looking people in the world, so therefore the best looking people were termed Caucasians.
The AP Style Guide defends the continued use of the word Caucasian as denoting a "race" of people (but notes the word should only be used in stories that pertain specifically to race, not as a casual identifier). I didn't write it, but since #1621548 was very much about race, I think it can be defended on that basis.
The meaning of words change over time. For example, if you had had used the word spell-checker in the middle ages, you would have been thought a witch refering to some sort of method of overseeing magic spells.
@anon
Odd, but according to the news, Canada (specifically Toronto) seems to just be coming out of a week long power blackout due to an ice storm up there. Of course, their Mayor is a crack addict, but there you go
I think you might be moving the goal post a bit there.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a regular problem in the US in places with rolling brown-outs? (and in the 90's, rolling black-outs...)
Glad to know the US isn't a Western Country...
@Anon
a) "no real say" is a weasel phrase that could be used about the government of any country on earth.
b) The Realness juxtaposes "white people" and "Western Civilization." I took The Realness up on that. You decided to challenge that. It would be reasonable that the terms ought to remain the same; you, however, have chosen to move the goalposts.
c) as UHM notes, I live in Kosovo. You evidently know very little of much of Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union. As Sangfroid notes, Canada has also had such outages, and #1622084 remarks, the same has happened in the US. Perhaps they and the news media in North America are also liars? How else would you like to display your ignorance?
Why doesn't Germany have large power outages?
1.) It is reasonably sized unlike the US and Canada
2.) we buy our energy from france
3.) We produce our own should the french fail to deliver
4.) We have a tame climate by comparison
SO energetically speaking we are spoiled little brats. Not everyone can say that.
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