Yeah, I hate how current year activist try to claim games like the original Dragon Age trilogy because of "queerness", when queerness is inherently political, the games did not include LGBT characters for political praxis unlike say Veilguard did, and during the day the same activists were disavowing Inquisition because "it wasn't queer enough" or "it didn't push boundaties far enough"
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No, people disliked Inquisition because it was simply a bad game with lots of issues but the queer characters were not one. I mean they did have a lot of gary stus written in that but that was just par for the course crap bioware writing(not a fan of theirs since the third mass effect game). Meanwhile queer as all fuck BG 3 was a blockbuster of a success and mostly because it was a really great game, it’s almost like this is the primary qualifier if the game is going to do well.
I’ll just say that I loved Inquisition (and genuinely do not see the problem @Skide has with it), I don’t hate Veilguard, and I adore the entire Mass Effect trilogy.
That being said, Veilguard’s problem was not that it was “queer” or “woke”. Sure, the writing as a whole is not entirely early-Bioware, but the biggest problem was huge meddling from EA who constantly changed course and gave the devs unreasonable time limits to follow. From what I can tell, only the beginning and ending of Veilguard (the best parts IMO) were what was planned from the start. The entire middle section of the game was the result of the devs having to start over midway through the process. Hence why no choices could be imported from the previous games and why almost no choices in Veilguard matter.
But, as I said before, games like BG3 or Cyperpunk 2077 prove that “queer” or “woke” does not make or break any game at all. It’s all about the writing, passion, and respecting your designated audience.
And for those curious, my favorite DA games would be Inquisition > Origins > Veilguard > II.
@Timjer #268677
I’m simply a vidya snob. To tell you the truth nothing from Bioware really hit the same for me after the KOTORs, the early mass effects and the first DA had their moments certainly but they quickly got old for me.
If you managed to have fun through their whole respective series that’s great, not one thing is fun to everyone ever and that’s why we have such diversity in the hobby. My tastes are pretty esoteric to be honest, outside of CDPRs stuff and BG3 I’ve ended playing any triple A titles completely in favour of a myriad small projects which to me have much more soul to them. My current absolute favourites in the wrpg genre are Disco Elysium and Esoteric Ebb, followed very closely by Outer Worlds series.
ps. Would have put Stalkers in the first place but whether they count as rpgs is debatable.
@Skide #268697
Fair enough. And you’re right, part of the great thing about games (that corpos just don’t seem to get) is that no single one appeals to everybody. “Try to please everyone and you end up pleasing nobody”
Still, Outer Worlds? Good tastes on that front. Loved the first one and I’m partially through the second one. I’d also strongly recommend trying Blood of Dawnwalker. I just finished the main story yesterday, and am waiting for the promised NG+ patch. It’s really that good and truly has “soul”.
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