TheEmperorsInvisibleClothes #homophobia #transphobia mumsnet.com

Sissy Hypno Porn - heterosexual conversion therapy?

I've been reading a lot about this sissy hypno (hypnotic/hypnotherapy) porn, I've really fallen down a rabbit hole with it, never heard of it until recently, but from what it's saying this appears to essentially be a form of conversion therapy for heterosexual men to basically change their sexuality and or gender identity. I don't know if it's been mentioned here before as am new. But my point is, why is this being distributed on legal porn sites if conversion therapy is illegal? Even YouTube has videos aimed at converting heterosexual men to being gay, there is a video "straight to gay in 15 minutes" and similar. Videos of this nature aimed at hypnotising gay men want to be with women are not allowed, but they are allowed to host material with the aim of hypnotising straight men to want to be with other men? Is anyone trying to tackle this or has there been any legal cases? I can't find anything through searching.

MoseShrute #sexist mumsnet.com

(This TERF means transwomen when she says "bepenised lesbians")

Why dont all the be penised lesbians just have sex with each other? That way everyone is happy.......no wait....they dont, because the bepenised lesbian deep down realises the other bepenised lesbian is actually a bloke....and they're not into blokes....much like actual lesbians arent

AsMenDclaredWomenTheirInferior #sexist mumsnet.com

If men want equality
men will have to learn to lower their fists not raise them and not use them to prop themselves up in some masculine perceived higher position.

I don't believe men's history is about brave self sacrificing heroic martyrs.
That idea is pure male hype and male propaganda and self glorification

The truth is men's history is more about a bunch of vain violent thieving self concerned bullying thugs and rapists, who cornered women and girls and trampled all over them for sport and to make themselves feel good.
The hollowest victory is the most favoured of all victories for the shallowest of men!

Italiangreyhound #sexist mumsnet.com

I think you have got it. The thing is I think you are feeling that this failure on my part to agree with you is based on some kind of dislike or whatever. It is just based in fact. I know what males are and I know what females are. And the vast, vast majority of the world conforms to this basic biological principle, with a very small number of people with medical conditions which vary. Males are socialized in our society in a different way and have different bodies to us, reproductively. Private areas like toilets and changing rooms (locker rooms) hospitals, medical wards etc are generally segregated by sex for the protection of females.

My understanding of these basic principles is just a fact and most people would, I feel sure, agree if they even guessed these basic truths were up for debate. What it does not mean is anything negative. I care about trans people, I know trans people, I want trans people to be safe, I want everyone to be safe. I honestly, honestly do. Males have a much, much higher rate of offending in violent and sexual crime than women. So any man who says he is a woman, is not female. He is a man who says this about himself. Now, I am not required by law to simply accept or believe what any person tells me about themselves.

If the law is changed to mean I need to believe any man who tells me he is now female like me, it will be a travesty. It will lead to danger for natal females and. I think, it will lead to a backlash against trans people, which I most certainly do not want. It does not mean I hate or dislike anyone. It means I do not believe you can change sex, and that is based on biology. I am genuinely sorry this is so difficult for a number of people but we cannot re-order society and ignore serious safeguarding issues because some people are uncomfortable in their sexed bodies. There are lots of trans people who understand this and agree with this position. This position is not anti-trans.

blackdoggotmytongueagain #sexist mumsnet.com

People who retain male genitalia should not use female sex-segregated facilities. Male born people with penises should not be trying to claim womanhood, should not be conferring upon themselves the identity woman, should not be joining girl guides, should not be entering rape counselling as counsellors, should not be using the ‘sex’ provisions in the EA as women. They shouldn’t be entering the female estate in the prison system. I’m not sure what you are finding hard to understand.

I’m totally fine with transgender people. You can wear what you want, call yourself what you want, and do whatever you like with your genitalia. It’s entirely your choice. I’m happy to be your pal, have a beer, work with you, whatever. But as a man, you should be using male services. Not mine. Not my daughters. Not my mothers. Not my daughters’ Muslim roommmates.

As a man who chooses to present differently, I think you are making great choices not to be bound by the gender hierarchy. But claiming to be a woman is where it ends, and where your choices affect women. As a man, I support your right to challenge norms. I do not support your right to encode them further into society by claiming they overrule sex. Nope. Penises are not female, and should not be present where sex-segregation is expected.

various mumsnet commenters #sexist mumsnet.com

[Note: They are reacting to a report of an incident where a gang of 4 women attacked and beat a man unconscious]

Group of ‘women’ attack a man

The violent stampers look male to me.

These are not biological women.

Are they definitely "women"?

why would the report even say that they were women? Because they have long hair and mini skirts?

fucks sake. they're not women

Is Madam JoJo's still open? If it is they look like they are on the way there. I used to work next to that place and would often get on/off Leicester Square tube with drag queens and cross-dressers.

Those broad shoulders?
Most oppressed group on the planet?

No. And no.

The thing that worries me most about self-ID is the effect it might have on crime statistics, masking male violence so we are unable to name it, talk about it, and stop it.

I wonder what the crime statistics will go down as if they get charged ?

Huh, funny how I've never seen a group of women on a night out beat the living shit out of a man like that. I wonder what could possibly account for this unexpected event.

I found that intimidating just watching it. It was vicious.

Those are trans people, not women. And yes I'm very concerned too that male crimes are being masked in how they are reported.

Whatever the natal sex of the attackers, this clip highlights the need for a system of categorising people by natal sex so nobody is in any doubt about a person's sex when they are committing violent acts. IF the attackers are male, this seems to be being reported and possibly recorded as a violent attack by women.
I fully accept that some people do not want to be defined by or referred to according to their natal sex. I have no problem with not highlighting people's sex or alluding to it in contexts were sex-based patterns of behaviour and / or sexed bodies are not significant.

That is shocking. Completely shocking. I was watching thinking 'only men usually fight like that' and then 'oh....right'

I sincerely hope this doesn't go down as women on men violence.

That is horrifying. WHY the insistence in the article that the attackers are women ? WOMEN. They didn’t even bother with the prefix of trans. Surely they are drag queens anyway ? This is the issue with single sex space. Imagine the reaction from them if you looked at them askance in the Ladies.

Patodp #sexist mumsnet.com

People on here often use Telling Everyone Real Facts...

You'll also notice terf is factually incorrect, and "transsexist" because terfs do include transmen in their feminism, seeing as transmen are female and deserve the protections that women have due to biology, and are welcome in most female only spaces. Everything always has to be about the born males.

Personally I've openly described myself as a terf, I've even half attempted to reclaim "transphobic". Transphobic has officially lost all meaning because absolutely fucking everything is transphobic, even being vegan. I have said actually my fears of what is happening to women's rights in the name of transgenderhood is terrifying. We are all being terrorised by thought police into silence and our fears should be taken seriously not dismissed as an irrational phobia.

thebewilderness #sexist mumsnet.com

The men used this same tactic on us back in the day over pornography. If Feminists oppose porn we are prudes who oppose freedom just like the right wing men who want to strip women of their rights and make us chattel again. Fact is the men on the left and the right have been arguing for generations over how best to position the boot on our neck.

Trans identified males are putting on the ultimate male dominance display and authoritarians are using it to promote their own misogynist interests. A belief in transubstantiation makes it possible to hire all white men and call it a diverse work force.

stitchglitched #sexist mumsnet.com

I get called a TERF on twitter, often by so called leftie men who tweet stuff about how we must believe and listen to women, support MeToo etc. Until a woman expresses an opinion about their rights being undermined by transactivists and then they disbelieve women, belittle their concerns and call them names.

TERF is just a way for (mainly) men to shout down and insult women in an 'approved' way. Calling women names and giving them abuse would normally make them look bad but doing it in defence of the trans agenda is perfectly acceptable, and encouraged.

Men who shout TERF are usually either misogynists who have found a politically correct means of abusing women or disenfranchised losers who have found a way to belong and get lots of likes. The women who call other women TERF are usually desperate for male approval and will throw other women under the bus to get it.

They can call me a TERF as often as they like, they have no argument because you can't argue with biology.

CADministry #fundie mumsnet.com

I'm really concerned about dinosaurs, and I think something needs to be done. The science behind them is pretty flimsy, and I for one do not want my children being taught lies. Did you know that nobody had even heard of dinosaurs before the 1800s, when they were invented by curio-hungry Victorians?

Charles Darwin's later theory of evolution entirely disproved dinosaurs, yet the dinosaur lie was twisted and adapted to try to make it fit. Any proper look at the facts will reveal that dinosaurs simply never existed.

Aside from the educational aspect, dinosaurs are a very bad example for children. At my children's school, several children were left in tears after one of their classmates (who had evidently been exposed to dinosaurs), became bestially-minded and ran around the classroom roaring and pretending to be a dinosaur. Then he bit three children on the face. One poor girl has been left with a severely dented nose and the whole class was left traumatised by this horrible display.

Nothing about dinosaurs is suitable for children, from their total lack of family values through to their non-existence from any serious scientific point of view.

Recently my sister foolishly gave my two youngest some dinosaurs toys for Christmas. After telling her to get out of my house I burnt the dinosaurs. My children were delighted because they know that dinosaurs are evil. I am fortunate that my family has been very supportive, and has disowned my children's former aunt.

Please, do what you can to get dinosaurs taken off the curriculum. Our school has been recently presented with a 214-signature petition, and following that and our recent protest the headmaster has said that he will take it the governors. We are lucky that he is so sympathetic to our cause, but I fear that others may not be.

If you would like to lend your support to our campaign, we have a Facebook group where we spread facts and research about the dinosaur myth. Hope to see you there! :-)


Further comment:
"I used to believe in dinosaurs. We all did. We were all raised on the dinosaur lie, and so we don't question it. I'm used to getting amused reactions at first, and then I'm equally used to people learning a bit about the facts themself and coming to the obvious realisation that they've been fed a fraud.

As for the skeletons, Madcatgirl, you'll find that not one of them is made of bone, and none has ever been found complete. In some cases the 'bones' have been entirely fabricated (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_Wars for instance), and in many other cases creatures have been misidentified, often intentionally.

Bear in mind that the fossils dug out of the ground are usually flattened and pulled out of shape. The final forms of the 'dinosaurs' is based on conjecture and imagination."