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(commenting on story “Va. Democrats Walk Out After Pastor’s Invocation in House of Delegates Urges Protection of Unborn, Biblical Marriage”, excerpt follows:)
Grant warned that God has poured out His wrath on nations for their disobedience before, and “we are not exempt.” He then began to speak to specifics, referencing prominent societal sins such as abortion and homosexuality.
tovlogos:
"Some Democratic members of the Virginia House of Delegates reportedly walked out of the chambers on Tuesday after the pastor who delivered the invocation exhorted lawmakers to protect the unborn and uphold the sanctity of biblical marriage. Two of those who spoke against the prayer were also identified as ministers." Obviously they are not ministers of Jesus the Son of God.
That reminds us of a passage in John 6:66-68 -- "From that time on, many of His disciples turned back and no longer walked with Him. So Jesus asked the Twelve, “Do you want to leave too?” Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life..." Amen Peter, I can't imagine where we would go...
Off Shore:
Two that were identified as ministers.... Let me correct that statement, two that identify as ministers of satan or better yet wolves in sheep's clothing. Nothing about these two show them as disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Lydia Church:
Right. It's amazing to me how many are aligned with hell but still claim to be a 'Christian'. But it's nothing new, in the OT many times folks thought they were doing something in the name of God, but they were against Him and God actually punished them, the Golden Calf Festival with Aaron is a prime example. Today's apostasy in the church, which is falling like dominoes to the agendas of sin, the world, and the devil, are another example. So many will be shocked when Jesus says to them, "Depart from me, for I never knew you!!! You who practice sin!" At best it's the five slumbering virgins who are left outside of heaven's door! But now they are full of arrogance, later they will be crying but there will be no hope left for them. NOW is the time to repent! Repent NOW of abortion and homosexuality, pornography, drug use, fornication, and all the other sins. The Bible says if you are not living a holy life, you will not get to heaven, be not deceived by smooth talking snake oil salesmen 'ministers' promoting the heresy of licentiousness, salvation by grace is NOT a license to sin! We as Christians will stand before the judgment throne of Christ, for what we did AFTER we got saved! Let that sobering fact wake you all up!
Justus Jonas:
If you believe all that, that's well and good, but the issue is that this man said these things not as part of a sermon in his church, but in a government building. In other words a place which should be free from religious haranguing.