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Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Largest Lutheran Denomination in the US Promotes ‘LGBTQIA+’ Inclusion in Church Life”):

Roger Marks:
What do they know that God doesn't? He created male and female, so who invented all these other queer people?

Trilemma:
God created Adam as a male and Eve as a female. After that, humans created humans with much variation which is why we have a small percentage of people who are LGBT.

Roger Marks:
Nearly right, but not quite. Man did not create all the queers, Satan did. He has been trying to muck up God's creation since day one and whilst he is making some inroads with his distortion of humanity, he still has a long way to go because all those queers are such a small minority.
I guess we should not be surprised if the number increases as homosexulaity is a product of dysfunctional families and quite a few of them are beign produced.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

Roger Marks:
Where did you get this strange idea from that homosexuals have no control over their sexual attraction. It has been documented time and time again that they have total control over it.

Jennifer Joyce:
You're not even trying now. That's the stupidest thing you've ever said.
Can YOU control your sexual desire? Could you just decide to be attracted to men right now? No? Then what makes you think it's any different for anyone else?

Roger Marks:
Sorry, but it is obvious you invented the idea of stupid if all you can do is call facts crap as rebuttal.
And yes I can control my sexual desire and always have as I have never raped a woman. I have never forced a woman to have sex with me. I have never had sex with a child I have never had sex with an animal. And I have never had sex with a woman who is not my wife.
All because I control my sexual desires. Now what about that do you not understand?

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

Jim Hanes:
Homosexuals don't care about you, Roger. They aren't the slightest bit interested. Why would anyone be?

Roger Marks:
If that is the case, why do they keep on trying to shut us up?

Jim Hanes:
How have they tried to shut you up Roger? Serious answers only please.

Roger Marks:
I wil share with you one good example. A friend of mine wrote a very good book about homosexuality. At the book launch which was by invitation only. The homosexual rent a mob invaded the launch banging drums, blowing whistles and shouting obscenities.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

Roger Marks:
A friend of mine wrote a very good book about homosexuality. At the book launch which was by invitation only. The homosexual rent a mob invaded the launch banging drums, blowing whistles and shouting obscenities.

Jim Hanes:
Yep your “friend”. Never has a name and his books never have titles.

Roger Marks:
I know his name and I know the title of the book because I have a copy.

Jim Hanes:
And of course you can't say what either are, because then you'd be providing proof and you only like to give opinions. Could you be any more transparent?

Roger Marks:
I will foolishly cast pearls before swine as I know you will rubbish it because it is the truth so here goes.....
Strained Relations by Bill Muehlenburg.

C. Lee #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Supreme Court Rules ‘Transgenders,’ Such as Men Who Want to Wear Skirts, Cannot Be Fired in 6-3 Decision”):

If employers feel convicted with God's commandments concerning these things, they are going to have to fire these types of individuals on a different basis, such as work performance. Or...start witnessing to them and either make it unbearable for them to work there or inspire their heart to change.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Mich. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer Declares June ‘Pride Month,’ Urges Residents to ‘Promote Self-Affirmation’”):

If governments are not allowed to promote anything Christian as FFRF demand, then governments should not be promoting anything that involves perversion. It is as simple as that and to do otherwise is hypocrisy.

C. Lee #fundie #homophobia #transphobia christiannews.net

alisonwilliams:
Just because a person is a homosexual doesn’t make them “not in their right mind” and it’s not grounds for firing them.

C. Lee:
I'm going to be politically incorrect, but biblically correct for your understanding. Anyone who practices homosexuality/transgenderism possesses an evil spirit of perversion. The evil spirit will not allow the host to be in their "right mind." Jesus said in John 3:3, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
Think about it, alison williams.

Roger Marks #fundie christiannews.net

And I presume you are an expert on everything you don't like huh?
Anyhow I will correct your mistakes
One. A Christian fundamentalist is a well known person amongst the Christian community. I don't know the exact number but there must be millions of them and they don't phase us at all. They only phase those who can't handle the truth.
Two. The fundamentalist has much more understanding about being a Christian that you do.
Three. Homosexuality being sin is not a matter of belief. It is spelt out very clearly in scripture so it is not up for grabs.
Four. Your so called flash verses are not flash verses. They are verses that spell out that facts regarding homosexuality and how God views it.
Five. About 2% of homosexuals are in a committed same sex relationship, They are the exception to the rule but you never make policy based on the exception.
Six. As for monogamous relationships among homosexuals they virtually do not exist full stop. Research has been done and TV programmes made that most same sex relationships are not monogamous. The homosexual in the TV programmes have admitted monogamous relationships are boring so they find others to have sex with.
Seven. Your views about Franklin Graham are totally spurious and not worth the paper they are written on.

WestWins #fundie #racist #conspiracy disqus.com

WestWins:
A cop made a huge mistake. How is this Racism? Happens every single day in Weimerica. White people die too. It's just the News doesn't cover it. I wonder why???!!!

Jennifer Joyce:
You just answered yourself. How is this racism? Because it happens every day in America. And people like you excuse it.

WestWins:
Really. Every single day? People just kill other people because the color of their skin. Right. Ok.

Jennifer Joyce:
It doesn't always result in death, you know this. Sometimes it's just KKK idiots with their posturing, but it still causes people pain.

WestWins:
So the Statistics showing that black people rape and kill white people more than the other doesn't compute in your logical analysis???

WestWins #fundie #racist #conspiracy disqus.com

(on coronavirus)

WestWins:
“In case you hadn’t noticed, we’re in the middle of a public health crisis.”
Says who?!!!
I know of not one single person that has died from this SCAMdemic who wasn't already sick and dieing.
It's the Flu and you are being played. Amazing how many people want to be slaves.

LadyWolf:
Who says we are in the middle of a public health crisis? So you missed it? President Trump declared the Covid-19 pandemic a national emergency more than two months ago.
BTW, over 100,000 people in the United States have now died from your so-called SCAMdemic, in case you missed that too.

WestWins:
Right...........and we are still looking for Weapons of Mass Destruction ...when it is convenient of course.
And oh yea............Lee Harvey acted alone.

Jennifer Joyce:
I can't believe after all the worldwide carnage there are still people like you calling it the flu.

WestWins:
"Worldwide carnage"...............
Says who?????? Hey..........did you know they are still looking for those Weapons of Mass Destruction?
You believe everything coming out of that TalmudVision? Nice.
You are being played. Whether you know that or not..............Agent or simply Naive.

Piltdown911 #fundie #conspiracy disqus.com

Piltdown911:
So the moon is made of green cheese, Selenography is science.
It is a known fact that American Psychological Association was "lobbied" by pro-gay people to get what they wanted.

Jennifer Joyce:
Selenography is the study of the surface and physical features of the Moon. The green cheese part is all yours, not science.
Gay people did lobby the APA, but that's not why the APA made changes. The APA made changes because of better data. Science doesn't care what people want.

Piltdown911:
Science denier.
"What’s noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from
the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough. There was no new fact or set of facts that stimulated this major change. Rather, it was the simple reality that gay people started to kick up a fuss." - Behaviorism and Mental Health

Jennifer Joyce:
Science denier?
This is from dictionary dot com.
selenography: the branch of astronomy that deals with the charting of the moon's surface.
See? No mention of green cheese. That's you, that's not science.
And your quote isn't from Behaviorism and Mental Health, it by a bigot named Phil Hickey who wrote a long-debunked tommyrot called "Homosexuality: The Mental Illness That Went Away".
From the National Library of Medicine: "In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association (APA) removed the diagnosis of “homosexuality” from the second edition of its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). This resulted after comparing competing theories, those that pathologized homosexuality and those that viewed it as normal. In an effort to explain how that decision came about, this paper reviews some historical scientific theories and arguments that first led to the placement of homosexuality in DSM-I and DSM-II as well as alternative theories that eventually led to its removal from DSM III and subsequent editions of the manual."
Obviously "this paper" is too long to reproduce here, but since you've shown how good you are at manipulating data, you should have no trouble with a simple google search. Simply look for "Out of DSM: Depathologizing Homosexuality".

Piltdown911:
How good I am at manipulating data?
Answer this, why is there always a male and female role in gay relationships? Don't insult yourself by denying there is, I've seen it repeatedly.
Homosexuality is a deviance no different that pedophilia.

Off Shore #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Supreme Court Rules ‘Transgenders,’ Such as Men Who Want to Wear Skirts, Cannot Be Fired in 6-3 Decision”):

So the GI should be able to wear blaze orange on the battle field? The service repair person wears what they want, so our ladies can't tell if they work for the company they are expecting? The cop should be able to wear a pink tutu, so we can't tell who the good guy is? Hey the fireman can wear plastic nylons so when they enter the heat it melts to their bodies. You are thinking is emotional not based on reason nor plain common sense. My company picks our uniforms to display our message not your personal desires. Put your hard earned money on the line and your ignorant ideas would fade quickly or you would be bankrupt either way reality would be served. The world is going to be judged repent and accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, Romans 10:9-11.

WestWins #fundie #racist disqus.com

(commenting on story “Minneapolis Burning: Violence, Riots Break out in City Following the Killing of George Floyd by Police”):

Chuck Anziulewicz:
While I'm sure most of the people who voted for Trump in 2016 do not think of themselves as racist (and I'm trying to be generous about that), the fact remains that ALL of the white supremacist groups, white nationalists, militia groups, "Proud Boys" and such were 100% solidly behind Trump. THOSE were the "deplorables" Hillary spoke of. And with Trump's election, they feel validated and empowered. There's no getting around this. And when things happen like what happened to George Floyd, I'm tempted to think that those same deplorables have infiltrated police forces all over America in an effort to foment a race war. This is just ONE of the reasons I'm voting against Donald Trump.

WestWins:
Odd comment. What does Racism have to do with this story? And what is a White Supremacist exactly? Is that different from a White Nationalist?
Confusing.
Are the Chinese in China Supremacists?

Piltdown911:
Divide, divide, divide. Race, politics, social standing, etc.

WestWins:
True.......but only in White Nations. Or I should say "formerly" White Nations. Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans..."Western Civilization" open to everyone!
Watch.......someone will call me "racist" for pointing out the fact that Western Civilization was predominatly white. Europeans are on the chopping block of humanity.

Various Christian News Network fundies #fundie christiannews.net

All these are in response to this story:
“Jorge Bergoglio, also known as “Pope Francis” and the head of the Roman Catholic religion, has called for believers of all religions to pray in solidarity on May 14 to ask God to rid the world of the coronavirus pandemic. He also asked that vaccines be made available to all persons threatened with infection. Bergoglio has endorsed the call to “the believers of all the religions to unite together spiritually on May 14 in a day of prayer and fasting, to implore God to help humanity overcome the coronavirus pandemic.”

Off Shore:
I don't belong to a religion those are man made. I have a true relationship with God the Father through our Lord Jesus Christ. As a son of the living God I have no business gathering with idol worshipers, 2 Corinthians 6:14-16. If roman catholic's followed God's word they would know that as true believers we are already gathered in spirit with each other and our Lord Jesus Christ there's nothing more we can do to initiate that. Once you accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Savior you are united with the body of Christ forever. You can't earn it or work for it because it's a gift called grace, Maranatha.

Lydia Church:
The antichrist pushing the one world religion. That is what this is.

Neil Enpre:
2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Walhei:
Pope Francis is so naive. He thinks like Jimmy Carter. He wants to be called a peace maker. But Francis is wrong to embrace false religions in pursuit of peace.
Every time Francis agrees with the leaders of pagan religions he elevates those religions in the eyes of their followers! This is demeaning God because there are no other God's, only one God.
The followers of those pagan false religions are deceived. They think they are worshipping the one true God. Satan is a crafty fellow.
Jesus described Satan; "He is the Fathers of LIes and the Great Deceiver."

Rose White:
Satan's antichist!

MarsingID:
Acts 4
11 Jesus is the one of whom the scripture says,
‘The stone that you the builders despised
turned out to be the most important of all.’
12 Salvation is to be found through him alone; in all the world there is no one else whom God has given who can save us.”
This Pope is a 'Fraud'

Doug Bristow #fundie disqus.com

Samson:
This fool will still not humble himself, typical of the left.

Delu:
What about the fool in the Whitehouse? Has he humbled himself yet?

Doug Bristow:
Daily by putting up with those like you that have a psychotic hatred of him and by working as hard as he can to do what is right by this country and it's citizens; doing it all for free in spite of all the lying and fake garbage that has been piled on him even before he was sworn into office.

Jim Hanes:
No one has a psychotic hatred of Christians merely because we put a TEMPORARY social distancing rule in place to ride out a global pandemic. You look like a well-fed man. Do you also believe people have a psychotic hatred of restaurants since you can't go to all-you-can-eat
buffets for a while?

ISA41:10 #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on the story “NY Gov. Cuomo: ‘Worship Services’ Are ‘Canceled,’ According to Guidance Document”):

The LYING Liberal Media and the Demonrats are wanting to keep America shut down for several reasons.

1. The vote by mail fraud they are pushing.

2. They seen how most pastors ran and hide, so they see their chance to remove religious freedom. Then Demonrats pushed freedom to worship. Now freedom to video stream. And all the brave pastors said thank you lord governor.

Pastors are disobeying the Word of God by not assembling together and NO video streaming is NOT assembling together. Pastors have becomes servants to men and not God Hebrews 10:25

And don't try and tell me Romans 13:1-7 applies because it does NOT! When man tells us to disobey the Word of God we are NOT to obey man, PERIOD!!!

Jesus also told us to 'GO" and Preach and spread the Word of God (Matt 28) not to sit at home remain under our beds, thumbs in mouths, until the likes of Cuomo, Fauci, Birks, Whitmer and all the other Demonrat liars would tell us--order us--to slowly (masks & gloves on, of course) & carefully emerge blinking into our "new normal" existence.

Christians today are playing Church and not being the church...........It is quite obvious!!!!

Roger Marks #fundie #dunning-kruger disqus.com

(commenting on story “Freedom From Religion Foundation Lodges Complaint Against Teacher for ‘Undermining Theory of Evolution’”):

I can't believe that intelligent human beings can believe the fairy stories raised by FFRF.

Lets list them....

1. The teacher undermined the teaching of evolution. FACT. There is nothing to undermine as it lacks substance.

2. A concerned parent. So one person's knowledge supersedes the knowledge of over 1,000 scientists.

3. He explained that none have been “able to find when something becomes something else” and that evolution is contrary to genetics, such as if a dog “underwent several mutations and became a cat.” So the teacher has to teach lies to satisfy one parent.

4. “So, what that means is that you have to play the evolutionary game because the people writing this are married to that idea, despite the new proofs and the science coming out,” he is quoted as saying about the exam. So the school demands that teachers teach lies.

5. Evolution, like gravity, is a scientific fact. … No controversy exists in the scientific community regarding the fact of evolution, Another lie that the school has swallowed hook line and sinker.

6. “Teaching creationism or any of its offshoots, such as intelligent design, in a public school is unlawful because creationism is not based on fact.” And evolution is based on fantasy but never mind if students do not learn the facts.

7. “Mr. Lucason must be directed to refrain from promoting religion or attacking evolution to his students,” it opined. “If he cannot do this, he cannot be a teacher in a public school.” But the school is bowing to the dictates of a religion of no religion.

8. The parent who complained to FFRF — who has remained anonymous — similarly claimed to the Utica Observer-Dispatch,“A biology teacher telling students that evolution can cause only minor changes within a species and cannot cause one species to gradually become a different species over the course of thousands of years is the equivalent of a math teacher telling students that it’s possible to add two plus three, but it’s impossible to multiply 987 by 6,789.” Evolution is pure supposition with no factual evidence. Maths is factual with plenty of evidence.

9. “We have consulted with our legal counsel to confirm a clear understanding of the constitutional requirements referred to in your letter regarding instruction on evolution,” he wrote. There is nothing in the Constitution about teaching evolution.

Seems that the school is run by a group of blockheads that do not have single spine amongst them, letting one parent dictate curriculum.

IMHO #fundie disqus.com

IMHO:
The American flag and the queer flag stand for the same thing. Empowerment and equality of deviant God haters.

Canis Vulpes:
The American flag stands for the country of The United States of America.
The LGBT flag stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people.
So no, not the same thing.

IMHO:
Perhaps you should study on that a little more. The Constitution guarantees the rights of the deviant left and since this is a democracy then they can hold office and push whatever legislation they want. Now we have an openly homo running for president who will be seeking more "rights" for the deviants.
You may say that they should have equal rights too. But they are not making equal rights, they are seeking favor by taking away CHRISTIAN rights. The right to associate is the most basic right of religion and they started taking that away early on with their socialist legislation and taxation to pay for it. Now they want to teach "alternate" sex in schools which is a result of the socialist decision to teach "sex ed" in schools. The examples/proof goes on and on.
Look at the liberal lefts other front runner Sanders. He wants to spend trillions of our dollars on his socialist agenda. And all the while "Freedom of the Press" has given ultimate power to the liberal left media to control peoples thinking, make the issues and set the arguments.
The socalled "Right" is just another side of the same coin.
The flag does stand for the U.S.A. and the constitution which it upholds. Any Christian who flies it is supporting an ungodly government plain and simple. Before long I wouldn't be surprised to see a rainbow flag over the Capitol.

Canis Vulpes:
The only rights Buttigieg would be looking for for LGBT people at this point is to protect them from raging Christofascists who want them dead because their holy book says so. I assume you have a problem with that, keeping people safe from harm from bigots.
It isn't the homosexuals trying to take away Christian rights, it's people who want to uphold the divide between church and state. And if someone taught me in school that hey, homosexuals exist, they are what they are and have existed since the beginning of time and no, they're not interested in your children, and could you maybe please not attack and kill them, I can't see why I or anyone else would take issue with that.
For a smaller portion of the population, it IS normal. Just like being left-handed.

temporary guest #fundie disqus.com

I concede that, yes, most Americans do believe in equality. I will also tell you that most Americans don't give a rip about who is gay and who is not. Also, I'll tell you that LGBTQ activist do not believe in equality as they falsely claim while they destroy Christian businesses and lives.I will also tell you there is a world of difference between a homosexual who lives their life leaving other people and children alone and the LGBTQ activists who would turn America in to Sodom or Gomorrah in the proverbial New York heartbeat if they could ... starting with children (Ask the Boy Scouts Of America). Most Americans are sick and tired of what LGBTQ activism is doing to this country. Yes, I know there are gay people who are not involved in all that crap, but in case you missed it, I'm not talking about those folks. I also know what a pride filled, sanctimonious bully is, and every LGBTQ activist in the country is exactly that, and MOST Americans are sick and tired of the bullying crap dedicated to undermining the true strength of any stable culture, the family of one man, one woman and kids who know which one is which ... we are bone tired of LGBTQ activists telling us we have to embrace and celebrate their "pride", not to mention the repeated, intentional, money stealing and life destroying assaults on the business of Christian people for failing to do so.

I'm retired now. The reason I retired was that on my last job, in the break room, there was a story repeated every morning before work, every morning break, every lunch time and every afternoon break about a black football player who announce to the world that he was gay. I made the comment that I was sick and tired of people on the news day after day saying that it didn't matter if he is gay or not and if it didn't matter, it'd be great if they'd just move on and talk about something else. A fellow employee sitting next to me said "He's a hero!" And I said, "No, he's not. He's an opportunist whose going to make a fortune either playing football or by writing a book and playing the victim. Either way, for him, it's a win win situation and I'm tired of hearing it". For that, this individual reported me to human resources and threatened my job. I just happened to be ready to retire anyway, so I did. I made two mistakes: I failed to see the man as a hero just because he was black and I failed to see him as a hero just because he told the whole world he enjoys sexx with other men.

In addition to that, I could write volumes on how LGBTQ activists have been assaulting and undermining my country for decades now. Beginning with the coining of the falsely invented word "homophobia" which first appeared in the book "society and the healthy homosexual" where in the author asserted that men who don't embrace homosexuality are suffering from an un-natural fear of their own gender. That assertion is pure crap, but like all leftist bullies, the LGBTQ used the lie as a foundation to build castles in the air, and now they seek to make us all take up residency in that phony, fairy-tale utopian kingdom in the sky. So spare me your know-it-all crap about how loving and kind and decent LGBTQ activists are. I know better. To me, LGBTQ activists are just a bunch of bullying, subversive, morally delinquent, hetero-phobic pontificates who don't give a rip about anything but themselves. Just exactly as they are described in Romans Chapter One.

I have told you the truth, which, unlike yourself, I did not claim to be my truth, but instead Biblical truth. But you are too convinced that you know it all, you won't seriously consider any thing that disagrees with you. Like an old and foolish king who will no longer be admonished, you think your opinion is unassailable just because it's yours.

I happen to be one of those Americans who couldn't care less who is gay and who isn't .. so long as they leave me, my kids, my grand kids, everybody else's kids in the public schools, private businesses and my country alone. Honestly, do you think there is any chance of that, or do you think the rest of the country has it coming for not teaching our children to celebrate that kind of crappy "pride"?

I'll even go you one more: As a soldier back in the day, I would have preferred a gay man in a foxhole with me who would put up a hard fight than a straight man who wouldn't. Some things really are just "common sense". The problem is, like all bullying, pontificating political leftists, LGBTQ activists think common sense is a thought crime and defending it is a hate crime.

Further discussion is pointless. It makes no difference what you think you know about the Bible, how superior you think you are to it or why you think you are. Further discussion is pointless.

I'm just gonna block you. If you feel the need to argue the point more, may I suggest you do it looking in the mirror at someone who'll buy what you're handing out just because it's you handing it out.

Roger Marks #fundie #transphobia #homophobia disqus.com

(commenting on story “South Dakota House Advances Bill Prohibiting Hormones, Surgery on Youth Struggling With Gender Confusion”):

Good, good, good. Common sense is prevailing. If children under 18 cannot decide for themselves to accept help for not wanting to be homosexual, then they should not be allowed to decide they are being deceived by a heartless and deceptive Satan who is laughing all the way to the distortion and deprivation bank to screw up as many people's lives as possible.

Of course the ACLU would oppose the law because that is there modus operandi. Oppose anything that tells the truth.

Brian Matthews #fundie disqus.com

Brian Matthews:
Jesus Christ is LORD. Do you deny that? Yes or no.

Mario Vercotti:
I deny it.

Brian Matthews:
And you will perish. There's nothing I can do about that.

Mario Vercotti:
I’ll take advice about that kind of thing from doctors, not zealots, thanks.

Brian Matthews:
I wasn't giving advice.

Mario Vercotti:
You were threatening me with the rules of your religion which I don’t follow. I do not respect that.

Brian Matthews:
I wasn't threatening you. Why would I do that? I don't even know you.

Is the CDC threatening you by telling you to wash your hands often or you might get sick?
I also don't have a religion.
I was a lost sinner who was saved by God's grace through His Son Jesus Christ, while you have indicated your choice to remain a lost sinner. It's your choice, so why are you mad at me?

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

Roger Marks:
As you have asked me a stupid question I will give you a stupid answer. A homosexual is a celibate heterosexual and gay means being miserable.

Jim Boss:
A homosexual is a person attracted to the same gender.
Gay is a synonym for homosexual. It also means happy but not exclusively.

Roger Marks:
You asked a stupid question so I gave a stupid answer. If you don't want that to happen don't ask stupid questions.
I don't know how long you have lived on this earth but the word gay has always meant happy until the homosexuals hijacked it and made a lie out of it.
If you want to know the truth with homosexuals all you have to do is take the opposite position and that is the truth. I have spoken to enough homosexuals, read about enough homosexuals. watched enough homosexuals, and studied enough of the pathology of homosexuals to know one thing they are not and that is gay.

Roger Marks #fundie christiannews.net

Jim Hanes:
I don’t have a self-righteous religion, you do. We don’t get to choose our sexuality and you want to punish people eternally for it.

Roger Marks:
Oh boy, you are so ignorant. I am reading a book about homosexuality and have just read the chapter "Homosexuality - born or chosen." The chapter is full of quotes from reputable organisations and examples that prove born homosexual is a myth. In other words there is no evidence that you are born homosexual. Some of the information comes from leading homosexuals themselves. If they say you are not born homosexual you have got a lot of learning to do.

Roger Marks #fundie christiannews.net

Like most western democracies, America has been hijacked by the godless and atheist who want to impose their godlessness and atheism on the people of America. This fabulous country and people were given birth by Godly men who founded the country on the tennents of the bible. The Constitution and laws reflect this and until the anti god brigade got all uppity, that was the norm.

AND THEN....they decided that they were not getting enough of a hearing so they decided to change things and challenge everything that was not of Satan. They twisted and turned the meaning of words to make them say what they wanted them to say and the slow burn into godless atheism began.

All is not lost however as the majority of Americans still consider themselves to be christian, not atheists so the gains have been minimal. Fortunately only the duped and weak have succumbed to the lies of the atheists and people like the FFRF.

The atheists are a wonderful bunch of hypocrites as they demand that everyone should have the freedom for what they believe, just not christians. You can teach atheism and its bedfellow evolution in schools but not intelligent design.

The education system in America has been duped like so many other western nations into believing that lies perpetrated by atheists are the truth and they have yet to work out that evolution is a complete fairy tale.

I know of 15 questions that are logical and necessary to be answered but as yet I have not found one single evolutionist that can answer any of them. Despite this fact, the education dept still reckons that christian are liars and atheists tell the truth.

But we should not be surprised at this as Satan is the father of lies and as evolution is made up of lies, it figures that those who want to keep God out of the equation, they are going to believe the lies.

When all is said and done and the atheist (liar) stand before the judgment seat of God and comes face to face with him and he asks "Who are you?"(bearing in mind he doesn't believe God exists,) God might say "I am your worst nightmare."

tovlogos #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Pete Buttigieg Drops Out of Presidential Race”):

“That same month, Buttigieg asserted during a fundraising event that those who take issue with his homosexuality rather have a problem with his Maker."
That statement is a technique used by the LGBTQ ilk more often. That God made them that way...
The problem there is it contradicts the Bible obviously (which is always the case when anyone sins and rationalizes it), since God made man to desire woman and woman to desire man -- that's the way it's been by the vast majority throughout human history. But because some people cannot break away from continuous sin, of course, it's God's fault. To say 'God made me do it...' is a very common excuse for 'practicing sin', in contrast to stumbling temporarily. cf.1 John 3:8-9.One thing reminiscent of Sodom is the boldness with which today's LGBTQ persuasion approaches heaven. In Genesis 18, God appeared to Abraham on His way to reckon with Sodom. When we arrive at Genesis 19 at which point the Lord went His way and two angels were left to continue to Sodom after God's conversation with Abraham had ended -- there Lot was sitting at the gates of Sodom and immediately arose to meet them, bowing his face toward the ground. Needless to say, the angels were not afraid of refusing Lot's hospitality and intended to spend the night in the open square but Lot insisted and they followed him into his home...
Before the men of Sodom turned in for the night they quickly surrounded Lot's house and demanded that Lot release the new Men so they could 'know' them.Due to their spiritual blindness, they had lost all discernment which is a passport to doom.
In the present article, the very same spiritual blindness possesses the ex-candidate. So, yes, he needs prayer and a turnaround if he is to have any hope which in Sodom's case it was too late.

michael louwe #fundie #crackpot disqus.com

Samson:
The entire love and marriage bond was to procreate and raise a family, hard to do with two people of the same sex.

Canis Vulpes:
So people who through no fault of their own are infertile, should not marry?

michael louwe:
Infertility or barrenness is usually caused by incest, eg Abraham and Sarai were barren because he married his half-sister. Incest is a sin but Abraham was ignorant about it since the Law was only given during the time of Moses, ie a few hundred years later.

pastoredsmith #fundie disqus.com

Rusty Crosses:
I didn't claim that science proves transgenderism is real. I claimed there is scientific evidence that transgenderism is real. Here is an article that discusses some of that evidence. (Delete the space after each dot.)
www. scientificamerican. com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

pastoredsmith:
One opinionated article "proves" your claim?

Alan Smithee:
It's Scientific American, for God's sake, Ed. It's not OPINION, it's a discussion of EVIDENCE.

pastoredsmith:
Scientific American? More like idiotic babbling based on skewed facts and imaginary atheist whims. BTW. "for God's sake, Ed?" I thought you didn't believe in God? BTW....your "evidence" is falsified, incomplete and skewed to make a certain worldview, just as Mr. Darwin, who was mad at God and tried to prove that man was not created....and failed miserably. "missing link? Nonexistent link. Is that an example of your "scientific evidence?" If so, you have nothing.

wicker white #fundie #homophobia christiannews.net

Bee Man:
Pedophilia and bestiality are disorders. They will never be “recognized” because they are considered acts of abuse against animals and children who cannot consent. There is no reason to criminalize homosexuality if the parties are of legal consenting age. Consent is everything in these matters.

wicker white:
You believe everything you read at Wikipedia and see on Nat Geo and elsewhere? Do you not understand what would appear to be a "homosexual" act even in dogs, say for instance that of riding or humping, is not one of homosexuality but is about dominance. Here's a little bit of scientific evidence below for your consideration. Besides, homosexuality is an abomination in God's sight and is condemned by our Creator. Does it make sense to you that God would create in the animal world that which he condemns for mankind? God is not schizophrenic.
In 1996, homosexual scientist Simon LeVay admitted that the evidence pointed to isolated acts, not to homosexuality:
Although homosexual behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a homosexual orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity.
Despite the “homosexual” appearances of some animal behavior, this behavior does not stem from a “homosexual” instinct that is part of animal nature. Dr. Antonio Pardo, Professor of Bioethics at the University of Navarre, Spain, explains:
Properly speaking, homosexuality does not exist among animals…. For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite sex. Therefore, an animal can never be homosexual as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be homosexual. Such behavior cannot be equated with an “animal homosexuality”. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction.

Bee Man:
Google the gay penguin book, then get back to me.

wicker white:
I don't have to. I read THE BOOK. You read God's Word and then get back to me, but hurry up, the rapture is going to soon be happening, and I won't be around because I'll be taken up.

Bee Man:
Oh God, so much garbage. There is no rapture, and your book doesn't even say that.
Like so many Christian bigots you focus on the sex act and ignore the fact that even in the animal kingdom same sex relationships happen. Two same sex penguins not just engaging in the sex act but behaving as committed partners. THAT is the reality.

wicker white:
Funny thing, what I read coming from you is nothing but garbage. You seem to have a herd mentality, following after any "science" to justify your own sinful life. Your secular, humanistic worldview and your opinion will hold no water when you stand face to face with God Almighty on judgment day. I would pray for your soul, but Satan already owns it.

Bee Man:
Following provable, repeatable, trustworthy settled SCIENCE does not mean having a "herd mentality". But following a religion does.

wicker white:
I do not follow a religion. I follow a man, THE MAN, Jesus Christ. Christianity is not a religion. It is a relationship. All other "religions" are just that, religions, and they all lead to hell.

Kandy Fire N Ice #fundie disqus.com

(responding to story “Calif. Man Charged With First-Degree Murder After Allegedly Forcing Girlfriend to Ingest Abortion Pill at Gunpoint”):

I wonder if any Pro-Choice men and women will come here and defend this woman who did not want to end her pregnancy. Her choice was to continue this pregnancy. But was forced by the father to end her wanted pregnancy. The Pro-Choice men and women always says it should be the woman's choice not the mans choice. So how come these men and women are not coming to her defense?

tovlogos #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Va. Democrats Walk Out After Pastor’s Invocation in House of Delegates Urges Protection of Unborn, Biblical Marriage”, excerpt follows:)

Grant warned that God has poured out His wrath on nations for their disobedience before, and “we are not exempt.” He then began to speak to specifics, referencing prominent societal sins such as abortion and homosexuality.


tovlogos:
"Some Democratic members of the Virginia House of Delegates reportedly walked out of the chambers on Tuesday after the pastor who delivered the invocation exhorted lawmakers to protect the unborn and uphold the sanctity of biblical marriage. Two of those who spoke against the prayer were also identified as ministers." Obviously they are not ministers of Jesus the Son of God.
That reminds us of a passage in John 6:66-68 -- "From that time on, many of His disciples turned back and no longer walked with Him. So Jesus asked the Twelve, “Do you want to leave too?” Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life..." Amen Peter, I can't imagine where we would go...

Off Shore:
Two that were identified as ministers.... Let me correct that statement, two that identify as ministers of satan or better yet wolves in sheep's clothing. Nothing about these two show them as disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Lydia Church:
Right. It's amazing to me how many are aligned with hell but still claim to be a 'Christian'. But it's nothing new, in the OT many times folks thought they were doing something in the name of God, but they were against Him and God actually punished them, the Golden Calf Festival with Aaron is a prime example. Today's apostasy in the church, which is falling like dominoes to the agendas of sin, the world, and the devil, are another example. So many will be shocked when Jesus says to them, "Depart from me, for I never knew you!!! You who practice sin!" At best it's the five slumbering virgins who are left outside of heaven's door! But now they are full of arrogance, later they will be crying but there will be no hope left for them. NOW is the time to repent! Repent NOW of abortion and homosexuality, pornography, drug use, fornication, and all the other sins. The Bible says if you are not living a holy life, you will not get to heaven, be not deceived by smooth talking snake oil salesmen 'ministers' promoting the heresy of licentiousness, salvation by grace is NOT a license to sin! We as Christians will stand before the judgment throne of Christ, for what we did AFTER we got saved! Let that sobering fact wake you all up!

Justus Jonas:
If you believe all that, that's well and good, but the issue is that this man said these things not as part of a sermon in his church, but in a government building. In other words a place which should be free from religious haranguing.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

Homosexuals are against hate unless you tell them the truth and the hate comes out. They are against discrimination until you discriminate against what they do then the discrimination comes out. They are against judgment until you judge them and then their judgmental gene gets into gear. They are all for love until you are not gushing all over them and then you see the lack of love surface.

A friend of mine who has investigated the world of homosexuality and written two books on the subject said that homosexuals are the most hateful, unloving and judgmental people he has ever met.

sylviacroft #fundie christiannews.net

sylviacroft:
There is a difference between not wanting a nation or people to put their stamp of approval on something and executing those who do it. We never executed homosexuals in the USA, but it wasn't normalized or legal so those who practiced it kept it secret. Now with normalizing it homosexuals are insisting on being given access to our children to teach them it is "normal" and in the process are "converting" many gullible young people to enter their lifestyle. I loved my brother who was a homosexual. But I did not give him access to my children or let him bring his "partners" around them. He died at 32 years old of AIDS. He also had relationships with other men without telling them he had AIDS and infected some of them. Many homosexuals like my brother were full of anger and bitterness and hurt others because of it.

Alan Smithee:
Your brother may well have been angry and bitter, but don't you think that might be in part the way he was treated by people, including members of his own family? Why would you deny your children the right to get to know their uncle? You said he was homosexual and had partners. Were any of those partners children? What danger did he present to your children? He was not a pedophile, he was a homosexual.
The worst thing he might have done as far as your children are concerned is teach them that some people are homosexuals, and that they're still valuable members of society. Your brother might have made some poor decisions, especially in terms of having multiple partners, but the fact he was homosexual isn't something he chose.
There are promiscuous people on earth, and it's not a healthy behavior. But that goes for straight and gay people alike. Homosexuality is not related to that at all. It's very sad you denied your children the right to get to know their uncle. He might have had a lot of great qualities they never got the chance to experience.

CEOmike #fundie disqus.com

There is a cultural change happening in America, we were founded on Christian principles, eventually we embraced the Enlightenment idea of Truth, but are now accepting the Marxist idea that change is the highest virtue, facts are becoming "your facts" - simply watch CNN then watch Fox to see the two thought realities. Pray Trump is re-elected in a landslide or the blunt force of the state will prevail.

IvanRider #fundie #homophobia christiannews.net

All are in need of salvation. If you stare too long, fantasizing that cashier going down on you, you betray yourself to the pit. All hedonism is the path to destruction. All deviation from Biblical marriage invites trouble. But death by prolapse is due penalty received in one for one's error. That's medical, not religious. Tolerating the evil rainbow for one instant has led to them trying to rule tyrannically over us. That is the west receiving into itself the due penalty for its error. This is also why the ancient Jews were ordered to exterminate the Canaanites. To spare all future generations from this endless nonsense of homofascism. The Jews didn't heed the command. And here we are, having this conversation today. Don't be a fool: it always leads back to Sodom, rape culture incarnate. The more we tolerate the pretension that mere desire of the flesh equals automatic justification, the more society gradually loses the moral authority to condemn rapists. That was Kinsey's end game. And if you think there won't be consequences for allowing that to pass, then I'm afraid you can't be helped.

D.M.S. #fundie christiannews.net

bumsmcgee:
We don't need maniacs throwing gay people or pregnant women in jail because of your beliefs.

D.M.S.:
Don’t worry in less than 100 years there won’t be even 1 person on the entire planet that’s lgbtq.
And all abortions will be outlawed throughout the entire world.
Also there will not be even one Buddhist, one muslim, or one Hindu, either.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Apostate Texas ‘Church’ Announces Homosexuals Allowed to Lead, Pastors Can Officiate Same-Sex Ceremonies”):

This shows you how clever the homosexual mafia is. Way back they said that the church was the biggest barrier to them gaining acceptance in society so of course they target the church. And they have done it with a very successful fifth column.

From within they have convinced some churches to disobey the word of God and replace it with the word of Satan. In this case I see very clearly Satan in the board meetings saying "Has God said..." and the board happily saying "No he didn't" although it is clear as day that he did.

I used to run a support group for homosexuals who did not want to be. On Sunday evening we filled up a whole row in the church and the members knew who they were and treated them with love and affection but not one of them had any position of authority or ministry in the church until they had been set free from the drag that homosexuality is.

Many went on to freedom in Christ and got married and had children.

What the church is doing is giving authority to any sinner to join the church and be involved in the running of it whilst they are still sinning. if they accept homosexuals then they have to accept fornicators and thieves.

In another church I discovered that one of the Home Group leaders was beating his wife. I didn't say that is OK, you can do that and lead a group. I reported the fact to the leadership and they removed him from leadership straight away.

CEOMike #fundie #homophobia christiannews.net

Homosexually is not about sex, it is about another religion, a metaphysical religion. Homosexuality is only an outcome of humanism, love of other humans as god, self as God. So Maxon should be disqualified because she is NOT a Christian. We need to wake up, these things keep happening and homosexuality and "gender" are taking over because we are confused about what it means to be a disciple of Christ.

It is NOT being a good person, it is not being "nice" and not causing conflict. It is about being like Christ whose only mission was to bring good news, the gospel to a sinning world. For his troubles he got crucified, because he called out the religious authorities, called out the "church" going mob as hypocrites and ignoramuses (remember they tried to throw Him off a cliff)

You can not be a Christian and a homosexual no more than you can be a Buddhist and a Christian. Our educators need to wake up and return to discipleship and stop proof texting for their ignorance.

Roger marks #fundie disqus.com

It is called deception. Deception. Satan who is behind homosexuality is the father of lies and could not tell you the truth if he tried. So anything you hear from him about homosexuality is a lie and as we all know if you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth.

A classic example is the idea that homosexuals are gay. A complete and utter lie.

I have a got a book written by a researcher that spent TWO YEARS following 200 homosexuals on Fire Island. In the book he said that one of the things that was a stand out was that they were definitely not gay. He said that they were some of the saddest people that he had ever met.

Which is surprising as Fire island is a place where you can be homosexual to your heart's content.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “’Facing a Decade in San Quentin’: Daleiden Pleads Not Guilty to Criminal Charges for Undercover Planned Parenthood Videos”):

This only goes to show that pp people do not have an ounce of compassion in their bodies. They have completely desensitised themselves to the slaughter of babies by paid assassins and as a result justify the follow on from their murderous actions.

To them, the baby and they know it is a baby is a bit of flesh to be used for the benefit of adults and raising cash. Nothing more than a link in the chain of barbarous intent.

America is a wonderful country and Americans are wonderful people but it is time the government outlawed everything to do with abortion, made it illegal in any shape or form and gave some semblance of normality to the Constitution's right to life and liberty for all.

As far as abortion is concerned, their is no justification in any shape or form to kill a baby in the womb. None whatsoever. Roe v Wade was the biggest mistake that any government could make because it said that the baby only deserves to live if we say so.

Ted R. Weiland #fundie disqus.com

Ted R. Weiland:
The Constitutional Republic was, in fact, created to impose religious morality, as are all governments.
There are no vacuums when it comes to legislated morality or, more often than not, immorality. Consequently, a government's foundational ethical standard determines its God.
Therefore, there are likewise no vacuums when it come to religious-influenced government, be it even Secular Humanism in its multifarious forms, and it usually is. Case in point: the biblically adverse Constitutional Republic born of the biblically seditious Constitution.
When one understands that idolatry is not so much about statues as it is statutes, it becomes clear that all governments are theocratic, serving either the true God or some false god, demonstrated by what laws they keep and consider the supreme law of the land.
Question: Were the governments in the Old Testament under the god Baal (or any other false god named in the Old Testament) theocracies?
Answer: Of course, they were.
Question: Was Baal (or any other god named in the Bible) real or were they merely ancient forms of We the People?
Answer: Merely ancient forms of We the People. See 1 Corinthians 8:4-6.
Consequently:
"...There is no escaping theocracy. A government’s laws reflect its morality, and the source of that morality (or, more often than not, immorality) is its god. It is never a question of theocracy or no theocracy, but whose theocracy. The American people, by way of their elected officials, are the source of the Constitutional Republic’s laws. Therefore, the Constitutional Republic’s god is WE THE PEOPLE.
"People recoil at the idea of a theocracy’s morality being forced upon them, but because all governments are theocracies, someone’s morality is always being enforced. This is an inevitability of government. The question is which god, theocracy, laws, and morality will we choose to live under?..."
For more, google online Chapter 3 "The Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE vs. YAHWEH" of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective."

Lydia Church #fundie disqus.com

(Responding to story “Vulgar ‘Abortion Is Normal’ Art Exhibit in NYC to Benefit Planned Parenthood Political Action Committee”):

And this "it's normal" stuff? Sure, if you're hitler, then it's 'normal,' for psychopaths!
And it's not God who they are to 'thank,' it's satan! God opposes this murder and no matter how brazen they feel about it, that unrepentance instead of shame will land them in hell. Then they'll know how it feels.

I can't get over their evil heartedness! Oh sure, all these people, men and women, feel they have the right to f#@& left and right, then they get pregnant, so they feel they have the right to butcher it and murder the resulting human being! And they call this the height of 'enlightened' civilization! What a joke!!!

It is interesting to notice how society has gotten so far away from God and has become truly evil. Back in the 50's, folks would get married and have a family. Most would wait until marriage for sex, at least if they were Christians. The mother would stay home to be a mother to the children and not outsource her job to someone who is not their mother. If a woman got pregnant, the man would marry her. Fast forward to today. 99.99999% of all men expect sex before marriage, and that includes those who attend church. Then if the woman happens to get pregnant and doesn't run straight for an abortion, but approaches the father, he just implies that she should murder the baby because, you know, the option is there. If she still decides to have the baby, many men abandon the woman, look for another, and the cycle continues. The woman may cave and murder her unborn child, or end up a single mom in a rough economy. My solution? Keep it in your pants until the wedding night. It worked best then and it still works best now. The Bible was right after all: Don't fornicate. But who knew?!

Roger Marks #fundie christiannews.net

I am reminded about homosexuals who say if you don't want same sex marriage don't marry another person of the same sex so my reply is if you don't want freedom from homosexuality don't look for it and leave those alone who do want freedom from homosexuality.

What right have they got to tell others they are not allowed to be free of homosexuality? None at all, but they are so insecure they have to control everything that they can't handle.

I have a friend who has written two well researched books about homosexuality and he has come to the same conclusion that they are the most hateful, intolerant and discriminatory bigots this earth has ever seen.

Off Shore #fundie disqus.com

Canis Vulpes:
Kids are going to have sex.
There it is...the uncomfortable truth. Doesn't matter how you raise them or with what values.
With that on the table, what is the solution to unwanted pregnancies? Abstinence education? Good luck with that.
The obvious answer is giving them access to birth control and teaching them how NOT to get pregnant. And there's nothing stopping you from teaching your abstinence values at the same time, maybe you'll get lucky and have a child who resists teen sex.
How did birth control become the bad guy?

Off Shore:
So tell us all then how for thousands of previous years with no sex education or contraception the pregnancy rates among non married ladies stayed so low that the numbers were almost nonexistent? Yet since the 60's with sex education and contraception the numbers keep going up. You have bought a lie I suggest you do some research on your own and quit regergatating the same old lines that PP keeps repeating.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Fla. Tax Office Removes Christian Sign Following Complaint From Freedom From Religion Foundation”):

Roger Marks:
Christians get of your backsides and complain that removing the sign is giving a preference of non religion over religion. Equality demands that this is done. If FFRF want their non religion promoted and they do, just tell them to ask that a sign promoting non religion be put somewhere in the office.
You will only stop these idiots when you fight for your rights. Just lying down and accepting everything is the worst thing they can do.

Travis Kingston:
Nice try. There is no such thing as non-religion. The absence of something doesn’t make it an entity.
Do you complain about non-racism when people speak out about racism?

Roger Marks:
Nice try. As a teacher of English and Religion I can assure you that non religion is practiced by those who believe that the only valid religion is the one you don't have.
But again, that is probably above your pay grade as it requires a brain and the ability to analyse and think rather than relying on trite remarks.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

Travis Kingston:
Your religion is yours, but you don’t get to inflict it on others. If you serve the public, and you bake cakes for a living, you bake the cake regardless of who is asking for it. You seem to support the “I’m in a diet, so you can’t have a piece of cake” approach to religion.

Roger Marks:
And (Freedom from Religion Foundation)'s non religion is theirs but they should not inflict it on others like they do all the time because they hate the fact that anyone might hear about God and become a follower of his.
The fact that they have to impose their non religion on everyone shows two things. One, they have very little faith in their non religion and two they are hypocrites because they want to be able to practice their non religion but they don't want others to practice their religion.
And if it is wrong to have religion in schools, it is wrong to have non religion in schools as the Constitution does not differentiate between beliefs.

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Presidential Candidate Elizabeth Warren Objects to State Programs Funding Private Schools With ‘Anti-LGBTQ Policies’”):

Her comments, or how the comments are reported are full of double speak.

She said States should concentrate on funding state schools not private ones who are anti homosexual. The fact is the State schools are anti homosexual because they wil not allow a full and frank discussion of the matter. Their refusal to address the obvious keeps unhappy children in the chains of homosexuality.

As for not funding religious schools, the issue is not funding of religious schools, The issue is not funding schools that do not promote lies about homosexuality which tells us they are afraid of the truth and can't handle it.

As far as discrimination against homosexuals on the staff, would an atheist school be allowed to refuse a teaching position to a person who was a christian and refused to teach atheism as a fact. I can't see it not happening.

Some use text books that flout widely accepted facts. What widely accepted facts and by whom. Anyone with intelligence can prove that they are not widely accepted if you are not an atheist, and what are called facts can be anything but facts.

And by the sound of things if someone wants a homosexual kid to get a good education, the place to avoid is a state school as all they do is teach ideology, not the truth.

pastoredsmith #fundie christiannews.net

pastoredsmith:
If a nonprofit is barred from endorsing or opposing a candidate, why is Planned Parenthood not? This is not about "nonprofits," it's about the church. Totally unconstitutional and completely gagging the church. Nothing more, nothing less.

bumsmcgee:
Because of separation of church and state. This is obvious.

pastoredsmith:
So, it's not 'nonprofit," it's "church?" Right. So, the First Amendment doesn't apply at all, huh? WRONG. BTW. There is no such thing as "separation of church and state" as being interpreted in the US Constitution. I suggest you read it rather than spouting liberal talking points.

bumsmcgee:
Taxing churches would violate separation of church and state. If you're going to blatantly endorse politicians, you're violating it and should be taxed. You can't have it both ways.

pastoredsmith:
Wrong. You can't muzzle Christians in America. Read the First Amendment. We are Americans who chose to be Christians. Yes, here in this country, we do have it both ways. No, it won't be taken away.

bumsmcgee:
Then pay your taxes. You've waived the right to have tax-free status if you're going to endorse politicians. I mean I learned this in grade 6.

Chet #fundie christiannews.net

Justus Jonas:
Jesus ate with lepers and prostitutes. He didn't call anyone "faggots". And he didn 't teach anyone else to.

Chet:
But He did tell the woman taken in adultery to do what: Go and SIN no more...

Justus Jonas:
That's fine, if you want to tell a homosexual how not to be a homosexual I'm sure they'd be interested to know.

Chet:
It's called repentance, a turning away from one's sin and turning to the only Lord and Saviour of man's eternal soul, the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary. It's that simple, just as in another place in God's Word where we're warned bout sin, sexual and otherwise: See Galatians 5:19-21 and Ist Corinthians 6:9-10, and verse 11, which clearly states"And such were some of you"... Key word is "were" meaning a cessation of the purposed lifestyle of SIN..

Justus Jonas:
You didn't answer the question. Or you deliberately dodged it. Telling someone not to be a homosexual is like telling them not to be left-handed or have blue eyes.

Chet:
Sorry, but God declares otherwise which is why He expects man to repent of his Sin and in faith believing the good news gospel, turn to the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary. It's impossible to turn one's own eye color, very possible, with God, to stop committing adultery, fornication and homosexual acts. We do these things because we are sinners, period, and the lusts of the flesh we will do...

Justus Jonas:
I hope I have been clear in the point I was making, and if not I want you to really take to heart what I'm saying. You're basically making the demand from the Christian point of view that God tolerates no homosexuality. My point is that homosexuals exist and you're basically demanding that they not be homosexuals. That's like demanding an elephant not be an elephant. It's impossible, and you never, EVER say what you expect. Homosexuality isn't just sexual behavior, it's sexual attraction. The two go hand in hand. Someone who's never had a sexual experience, in other words, can still be a homosexual and even THAT doesn't escape your judgment.
If you're homosexual, you're not ever going to be happy in a heterosexual relationship - and for a good many that's physically impossible. The only other option is stopping sexual intercourse completely, which means you're essentially demanding homosexuals live lonely, sexless lives. Imagine someone demanding such a thing of yourself. Even if you're going to say something ridiculous like "sex isn't everything", it's a function of being a human being and everyone has the right to be happy. You know this, I know it, and God knows it.
What that leaves us with is you have a basic misunderstanding of what the scriptures are saying. They don't speak of same-sex RELATIONSHIPS anywhere.

Chet:
Many people who lost their wives or husbands simply do without sex until/unless remarried. This is not hard for an adult to understand, assuming you are adult. Further, homosexuals cannot procreate, can never have children, thus, the practice of inordinate sex would have died out with its human carriers ages ago. One is an adulterer, a fornicator or homosexual because one decides to engage in such fashion, dude. Why, with your reasoning on sex, the adulterer and fornicator are also born that way. They cannot help themselves and they should just have a ball and be done with it. I mean, man, it's only natural like an elephant having a baby elephant instead of a giraffe. Quit fooling yourself and face facts the god of this world has thus far hidden from your plain sight...

MarsingID83639 #fundie disqus.com

(Commenting on story “China Announces New Measures to Govern Religious Groups”):

MarsingID83639:
I bet the Left here in America wish they were able to do what China is doing to Religious Groups.

Alan Smithee:
The "left" is only trying to stop you from mandating your religion, as is right and proper. We don't live in a theocracy, Christian or otherwise.

MarsingID83639:
BULL!!
We also, as of yet, don't lve in a Communist country!
The left is all about Control
Control what you can say
Control what you can read
Control what you can drive
Control what you can eat
Control what you drink
Control your healthcare
Control your guns
Control your news
C0mmun!sts er, the left Reshape and Falsify
Historical Data. Does the left
Destroy Historical Statues and
change the meaning of words?
Nice try Comrade.

Alan Smithee:
So I'm a communist because I don't trust you nutcases to keep your religion out of our laws?

MarsingID83639:
Glad you admit it. Why are you on a Christian Website like this one? Because you want to spread your lies and hate towards Christians.
Goodbye Comrade.
Titus 3
10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, 11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned

Alan Smithee:
You can't possibly be that stupid. Do you know what a communist is? I'll give you a hint, it's NOT someone who wants you to keep your religion to yourself.