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Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

One. When you say you know a ton of christians, how many is that?
Two. I contribute to many different forums especially those christian forums where homosexuals come on them to attack christian and their beliefs.
Three. I have been on homosexual forums and told them the truth that they disagreed with and got banned in the first week.
Four. Even though they are christian forums the homosexuals always want the last word.
Five. You are not going to hell because someone said something. You and I mean everyone that is going to hell is due to the fact that you do not believe what God said.
Six. You don't need sex to fall in love. I fell in love with my wife and then had sex once we were married.
Seven. If homosexuality is a wonderful life as I have been told umpteen times, why is it that these homosexuals you refer to are poor, sad and lonely. People who have a wonderful life are not poor, sad or lonely.
Eight. What is SICK, is your inability to face the facts. In Sweden, approximately 2% of the population is homosexual. When same sex marriage was legalised, only 2% of those 2% got married. If homosexuals were looking for that someone special to love, how come only 2% of them acted on it?
Nine. What Jesus wants us to do is to oppose sin in all its shapes and forms.
Ten. The people that get upset are usually those who cannot handle the truth.
Eleven. If you do not approve of one night stands, then you do not approve of the activity of 90% of homosexuals as that is the modus operandi of nearly all of them.
Twelve. If they want to just live peaceable lives, why is it then that per head of population there is more violence amongs homosexuals than heterosexuals.
Thirteen. And you have the wackiest sense of what truth is. A case of the gospel according to me. One mans conflict is another man's truth. As Jack Nicholson said in a Few Good Men "That is the truth and you can't handle it."

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Eric #fundie disqus.com

Eric:
From context, the word sex means male or female. It would be interesting to see when they added the word orientation. Let's pray for Judge Thomas who is ill. If something is illegal at the time, then one could be fired for breaking the law. So if I find an employee is breaking a current law such as theft, I could legally fire him. So if Sodomy was still illegal in 1964 then it was legal at least then to fire homosexuals because it used to be illegal when we were still primarily believing citizens, I actually feel government should not interfere with ones family decisions either in the home or in a private workplace.

The Invisible Man:
Look at it this way: If you fire someone for being homosexual, let's say it's a man, you're firing him for being a man having a relationship with a man when you wouldn't have fired a woman for having a relationship with a man. So...it's firing someone due to their sex, isn't it?

Eric:
No, it's firing someone from your company because they are not a good fit, it's your company, and there are plenty of jobs at Target , Nike, or hair salons for homosexual men. There are many jobs not suitable or good fits for st right men too BTW so don't give me any unfair BS either.

The Invisible Man:
What sort of jobs do you think are not a "good fit" for homosexual people? What jobs aren't suitable for heterosexual people? You mentioned hair salons for homosexual men - why wouldn't a heterosexual man be just as suitable for that job? A hairstylist isn't a sex worker, you know.

Eric:
I would say tht a hair salon full of tee heeding gay men would not be a good fit for a straight man just as Sodom wasn't a good fit for Lot. But God removed him and his family befor raining down fire and brimstone on the city the day He destroyed it. They had gotten to the point in their homosexual sin that they thought that it was their "civil right" and "human right" to rape any man they wished too in "their" city. They did not respect freedom of religion or civil and human rights of others either so they and Beto [O’Rourke] share this characteristic.

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Lydia Church #fundie disqus.com

Nothing justifies gay 'marriage' since God condemns it. (And Jesus, since He is God.)

Leviticus 18; 22
Leviticus 20; 13
Deuteronomy 22; 5
Romans 1; 26-27
1 Corinthians 6; 9-11
1 Timothy 1; 10

Homosexuality is a sin.
There is no marriage between them.
There is no transgenderism.
God didn't 'make' anyone gay.
There are only two genders.
The fall of man lead to the sin nature.
God made us male or female and we are our birth gender.

Singing any song does not alter the facts.
That song has absolutely NOTHING to do with this issue.

God loved the whole world, so He sent HIS SON to die for
our sins to save us, not just from the stain of sin, but the
power of sin over our lives, including the sin of homosexuality,
so that we could be saved from that lifestyle and the sin
of homosexuality will no longer have power over us!
We will be heterosexual, as God intended!
Hallelujah!
John 3; 16

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♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥ #fundie disqus.com

Dear Heather Clark/Christian News Network,I can no longer post on this site.Trolls have taken over this site. It is no longer a site where Christians can post in peace.They hate us, No matter what we say they down vote us.They have done everything they could to stop me from posting here.I guess they won. unless God brings me back.this is my last post here.It's sad when Christians no longer have a site they can post on in peace. Sad that this Christian site is more like a former Christian site. You let these trolls christian bash. You let them cuss at us.This is a real shame what these trolls have done to what was once a nice Christian site. Please consider removing Christian from Christian News Network. It is no longer what it once was.

♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

Dear Father in Heaven, I seek You to Protect the Christians from the Trolls who have taken over this site.
In Jesus Name, AMEN.

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White Genocide is Real #racist christiannews.net

White supremacy is a myth, a false tale told by communist globalist Marxist liberal democrats on a mission to genocide white people in the very nation they founded.

White Supremacist = A White man that openly objects to his political dispossession and demographic replacement by the 3rd World Hordes in the nation forged out of a savage wilderness by his White Forefathers

“There are some things that must be said so that future generations will know that at least some of us were aware, and that our generation was not entirely composed of cowards and fools.” - Guillaume Faye

White is much more than skin colour. White refers specifically to the peoples of European Descent just as Blacks refer to those of African descent.

Whites (Europeans) are a distinct Caucasoid phenotype.

Whites are one people... One race with many different tribes people, just like blacks in Africa are of one racial group which make up many different tribes. A swede who marries a pole and has a child is not race mixing and committing racial suicide. When Whites mix their racial bloodlines with Blacks, Asians, Latinos or Indians that is racial suicide.

The reason why Whites in America have been reduced to using the term White Nationalism is because the American identity have been hijacked by ((( Marxists immigrant propaganda))) and non-whites think they can be included in the American Nation. They can't...one is born into a nation by blood. The American ethnicity was forged out of Europeans Stock. How did this happen...because Whites (Europeans) are cousins by blood.

If you're not White (European) you're not an American. A nation is blood. A nation is not an idea.

Genes =DNA=Blood...create culture. If all the races were the same and equal then we would all have the same culture. It's a lie and everyone knows it..we see the lie daily everywhere we look.

Civilizations do not die. They commit suicide and it is what we are witnessing throughout all of White Western civilization. Neither those in power nor the people think enough of their civilization to preserve it.

The masses have been (((brainwashed))) by the progressive canard of multiculturalism that all cultures are equal. If you think your culture isn’t better than another, then you have no reason to care if it is preserved and replaced by another.

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WestWins #fundie #racist christiannews.net

WestWins:
White advocacy is "Hate Speech"? Wow...…..and they say there is no communist conspiracy.
I hope you guys overplay your hand. But then again...…..it may just work. Good job swampy, your comrades are proud.

Swampy:
Call me crazy, but in my experience "white advocacy" means you have problems with racism, let's put it that way. Do you support interracial romantic relationships? Why or why not?

Bee Man 2:
Why do you need to advocate for whites?

WestWins:
Why do you not see the need?

Bee Man 2:
Because whites are not oppressed.

WestWins:
Really. Tell that to White and Asian students trying to get into Harvard.

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Michael Louwe #fundie #racist christiannews.net

michael louwe:
Remember, since the 1960s, the power-crazy White liberals of the Blue States have been pandering for the votes of the Blacks and Hispanics, in order to defeat the White conservatives of the Red States in US Federal elections.
Hence, the self-hating, anti-White and pro-Colored views of the White liberals, eg Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, etc and yourself(.?). It's all politically-driven.

Floodlight:
Listen to yourself. You are so tied up in knots with ridiculous conspiracy theories you are defending white supremacists.

michael louwe:
If White conservatives who fight for the interests of Whites are White supremacists, then you are a liberal White masocist who is often submissive to the Black and Hispanic supremacists in the Blue States, eg Joe Biden kow-towing to Barack Obama and Eric Holder from 2008 to 2016.

In effect, the power-crazy White liberals/masocists of the Blue States are ignorantly committing racial suicide by pandering for the votes of the Black and Hispanic supremacists, in order to defeat the White conservatives of the Red States in US Federal elections since the 1960s.
That is why the White liberals/masocists like to denigrate White conservatives who fight for White interests as White supremacists, while they hypocritically praise and champion Blacks and Hispanics/Browns who fight for Black and Hispanic/Brown interests, eg the mostly Democrat Black Caucus and Hispanic Caucus in the US Congress.

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WestWins #fundie #racist christiannews.net

Floodlight:
From Wikipedia:
“American Renaissance and the New Century Foundation appear on a list of 115 "white nationalist hate groups" published in the Intelligence Report of the Southern Poverty Law Center .”

You’re referring people to white nationalist propaganda hate sites, Westy. Did you KNOW you were doing that? Is Christian News on board with it, do you think?

WestWins:
White people desiring to see their heritage live on -- HATE.
In other words -- white advocacy = hate.

Got it.

naacp - acceptable
adl -- acceptable
la raza -- acceptable

White man and a white woman desiring white children = Call the feds!

Got it. I'll be sure to stay away from two or more white people.

Floodlight:
Yeah, the things you listed generally are not the kinds of things that make the SPLC list people as hate groups. Less hyperbole and more honesty and try again.

WestWins:
How about this...……...
how about you actually go to amren and find something one of the contributors have said that I should be cautious about. Do the work.
What does Jared Taylor say that is dangerous?

Floodlight:
How about “Whites deserve a homeland," just for starters?

WestWins:
Oooooooo……………….scary....very scary indeed.

Asia for the Asians...……...Africa for the Africans...………...White Nations are open to everyone!

Who came up with that brilliant idea.

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Susan Jane Elohim #fundie disqus.com

Floodlight:
We are talking about raising a child, and the care and selflessness that goes along with doing such a thing. Qualities that are not absent merely because a parent is homosexual.

Susan Jane Elohim:
Go read “Are You a Carnal Christian?” on billygraham dot org.
Carnality is the great problem of human nature and Jesus came to forgive our sins and help us out of it.
Unfortunately, people like their literal i.e. carnal views of the Bible more than mastering God’s more spiritual views. There are a lot of baby Christians around who can talk the talk but don’t walk the walk and they like to hang out online.
But their example doesn’t invalidate the example of people who can walk the walk. Find those people to learn from then God might actually turn you into a lover.
Going from being a hater into being a lover IS true spiritual change and only God and Christ through the Holy Spirit can make that happen yet the atheists run around today saying miracles never happen.
But all you have to do is locate a few people who know God changed them from haters into lovers to know that miracles still happen.
So do your due diligence and seek.
Seeking is > arguing and you can tell that by their fruits i.e. results.

Floodlight:
Did you have anything to say on the subject of homosexuals adopting, or was this just a drive-by proselytizing?

Susan Jane Elohim:
I am explaining. The natural or carnal man is given to thinking literally. It doesn’t matter if he’s an unbeliever or a less mature Christian in the making.

Both start out carnal and literal minded because the natural man comes first then the spiritual man later if you have Jesus. That’s God explanation.

Don’t bother responding. I don’t feel like arguing. If you haven’t seen how literalminded and zealous an atheist can be then you haven’t spent as much time observing them as I have. To my way of thinking they spend a good bit of their time over reacting to literal fundamentalism which makes them just as zealous as some Christian fundamentalists are.

Why are you going out of your way to come over to a Christian site and engage people that you disapprove of if that isn’t zeal?

Think about it.

Floodlight:
I’m sorry, the subject here is gay adoption. I see nothing whatsoever in your walls of text that address that subject, and I can’t even tell if you support or oppose it.

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Brian Matthews #fundie christiannews.net

Commenting on story “Arizona Supreme Court Rules Christian Artists Cannot Be Forced to Make Same-Sex Wedding Invitations in 4-3 Decision”

SFBruce:
It's important to note that the Court didn't invalidate Phoenix's anti-discrimination law, including the portion which includes LGBT people as a protected class. It's also worth noting that Brush and Nib lost in Superior court, as well as the appellate court. Obviously, their luck changed here. I wonder what other clients they deem unworthy of their services, and how they make that determination. I'm actually surprised this case was heard at any level since I don't believe Brush and Nib actually turned any prospective gay customers away. As I understand it, in order to have standing to sue, It you usually have to show you've been harmed, not that you might be harmed in the future.

Brian Matthews:
"I wonder what other clients they deem unworthy of their services..."
Why do you do that?

SFBruce:
I would think it's obvious. Joanna Duka and Breanna Koski have invited the public to purchase certain services and claim providing those services to a hypothetical same-sex couple would violate their religious values. As a result, they want to be exempt from following a law everyone else must follow. I just wonder if there are other couples who don't meet their standards. Inter-racial couples? Couples in which one is divorced? Or is it just money from the LGBTQ community that's too dirty for them?

Brian Matthews:
"Or is it just money from the LGBTQ community that's too dirty for them?"
Again I ask, why do you do that?

SFBruce:
My comments speak for themselves.

Brian Matthews:
I didn't ask you what you said. I asked you why you said it. What's your purpose?
Your posts are deceitful. Based on lies. Can you explain why?

SFBruce:
What lies?

Brian Matthews:
These ladies refuse to use their artistic talent to promote wickedness.
That's the truth.
You PRETEND that it's about something else. You people say it's about hate, and bigotry, when the truth is that it's about right vs wrong, good vs evil, your side being the evil.
That's the lies. Now tell me what your purpose is for telling them HERE. That's all I asked you.

SFBruce:
I live at a most fortunate time for the LGBTQ community. For a very long time, and as many other unfarily marginalized groups have done, we've had to either live in the shadows, or pay a very steep price for pretending to be someone we're not. The fact that those days are fading is the very opposite of evil. Of course, I know that you disagree with every syllable I've just written. In fact, I'm not at all sure you even consider LGBTQ people human. I also know I'm pretty much the last person from whom you'd ever take advice, but I'm going to give you some: if you actually want someone to carefully consider what you have to say, I'd avoid calling him or her an evil liar.

Brian Matthews:
I didn't call you anything, and of course I think you're human, and my heart is broken for you.
And yes, I do disagree with everything you said, as it is all based on lies.
And no, I'm not taking advice from you. You need to take mine.
You are lost in darkness. This whole world is in open rebellion against Almighty God, and will soon be judged. You are not gay; you've bought Satan's lies.
Not every desire, or feeling we have is good, or right. That's just plain common sense.
You are alienated from the Light, which is God, by your sin, and desire for falsehood. Christ died to remove your sins, so that you can be reconciled to God, who is Light, and Life. If you confess your sins, and receive Christ, it will transform you. That's what I want for you. That's my purpose for commenting on these boards. What's yours?

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Brian Matthews #fundie christiannews.net


SFBruce:
Tragically, there are also numerous cases that make the news of heterosexual "couples" who adopt children and then abuse them. Sexual orientation doesn't determine one's qualifications to be a parent. The notion that turning "a child loose in the forest" is better than a loving home is absurd.

Brian Matthews:
There's no such thing as sexual orientation. That is a nonsensical made up propaganda term. I think you mean improper sexual desire, lust.

There's all sorts of improper sexual desires, and improper desires, in general. Some people desire to sleep with their best friend's wife. The impulse is so strong, that many have given in and gone down that dark path of destruction.

Not all our thoughts, desires, impulses, and inclinations are right, and good.

You and the so called LGBT movement are trying to justify, and legitimize yours. It will never happen. The most you'll ever be able to do it to legalize them.

If I remember correctly, however, I think I gave you a way out. But you have to want out.

It's your only hope. Christ will return soon. He came as a lamb. He'll return as a LION. He came as a babe. He'll return as a mighty conquering warrior KING. He came as a sacrifice for our sins. He'll return as a JUDGE of those who stubbornly, pridefully, and FOOLISHLY refused His gracious pardon that He personally bought and paid for with His own blood.

It costs you nothing, but your sin. He will give you Heaven in exchange for your sin! Why would you pass that up?

You don't have to get your act together, and your life all cleaned up to come to Him. You just have to want a new life, and cleansing. It comes from Him. His precious Spirit will take up residence within you, and do these things for you, in you, and through you. You will be reborn, and adopted into God's family as a son.

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Roger Marks #fundie christiannews.net

Sexual orientation doesn't determine one's qualifications to be a parent.

All the research I have done clearly indicates that ones sexual orientation has a very clear indication about the qualification for being a parent.

The research shows that a child does best when raise by a male and a female, preferable their own parents.

A series of videos made interviewing children raised by homosexuals when they had reached the age of 21 and they not needing their parents present showed quite clearly that being raised by homosexuals was as they said "hell."

A progamme I saw on TV and backed up by other research showed that most homosexual couples have sex on the side with other men.

Research shows that per head of population there is more violence amongst homosexual couples than amongst heterosexual ones.

Research shows that the average length of homosexual relationships is two years.

In every case of homosexuals wanting to adopt children, the major factor was the homosexuals wanting to be made happy by the child.

All of these facts combined shows that homosexual parenting is not fair on the children and should be avoided.

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WestWins #fundie #racist christiannews.net

HurtingAngel:
This Doctor is a hero.
In the last days they will call evil good and good evil. Satan is the father of lies and author of confusion.

Ken Weaver:
150 years ago people were using the bible for justification of slavery... but these are the last days because a guy doesn't want to use the pronouns his patients want him to use?

WestWins:
First -- Slave Owners occupied less than 1% of the population.
Second -- How come no one talks about "Slavery" committed by other Races? Not to mention...…...Blacks owned slaves as well. How come they get none of the blame.
How did the Slave Merchants get the slaves in the first place???
You are brainwashed mate.
Educate -- www.amren.com/news/2019/10/time-to-set-the-record-straight-on-slavery/

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Brian Matthews #fundie #homophobia christiannews.net

What's your definition of love? Does it include TRUTH? Righteousness? Purity? Humility? Wholesomeness? Morality? Order?

Too many people are throwing the word LOVE around, these days, without even knowing what love is.

Allow me to tell you what love isn't. Love isn't being nice. It isn't warm fuzzy FEELINGS. It isn't telling people what they want to hear instead of what they NEED to hear. It isn't giving them what they want instead of what they NEED. It isn't following them when you are responsible for LEADING them. It isn't being more concerned with them liking, and accepting you than you are with doing what's best for them even if they hate you for it.

There's no courage involved with going along with the crowd. It's the path of least resistance. Anyone can do it.

No one is homosexual. That's a lie.

Every time you tell someone that they are gay, you are helping to destroy them. You may mean well, but it's been said the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

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Reconciled2018 #fundie disqus.com

Most people understand about denying the fact that a woman and a man were designed to come together to use their complementing reproductive parts to form a biological family that society will die out without it.

Most people understand same-gender couples denying kids 100% by design the right to be raised by their biological parents.

Most people understand same-gender couples denying kids 100% of the time by design the right to be raised by a mother and a father.

Why is it we never see anti-Christian activists that claim to care for LGBT never speak out about islam that kïll those into homosexuality every day in the 13 countries they run? Could it be because you're islamists pretending to be for LGBT to attack Christianity?

Most people understands people trying to perform unnatural acts with their bodies with others of the same gender that leads to a disproportionately high percentage of death by disease, yet they want to normalize such behavior bringing that disease and death to others?

Most people understands many people who used to be into homosexuality have personally turned away from it, proving it's not genetic, but instead brought about by confusion, indoctrination, mental-instability and/or abuse. Their testimonies are all over the place and growing.

Most people understand that In the end it's God we'll answer to, and we have only to ask ourselves how we think that will go for refusing to stop sinning (be it lying, adultery, fornication, twisting marriage He designed and more) and refusing His offer to forgive and forget in the person of Christ Jesus.

Please re-read the gospels and forget what anyone or any church has claimed it says.

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Roger Marks #fundie christiannews.net

Roger Marks:
Delusison is the right word as hundreds, who knows even thousands of people that pronounced themselves the opposite sex to the one they were born have seen the light and convereted back to the gender they were born as.
Add to that the fact about 40% of them commit suicide, it should by and large die out as the preferred delusion.

Ken Weaver:
I read how women who undergo breast augmentation are 3 times more likely to commit suicide. Should we outlaw that surgery because of it?

Roger Marks:
I don't comment unless I have done considerable research on the topic and as I have done none on that, no comment.

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Brian Matthews #fundie disqus.com

Brian Matthews:
The Gospel of Jesus Christ isn't superstition. It's mankind's only hope, so you'd better accept that, or you're doomed.
Not all discrimination is wrong. Liberals use the D word as a bludgeon against truth, and morality. You use words like discrimination, bigot, racist, homophobe, etc. to SILENCE opposition to your wickedness.
As I said, the law isn't always right and good. Just ask a holocaust survivor.
And, yes, they have done something to make themselves that way. They chose their feelings over objective truth. They've deliberately rejected reality, and instead of changing themselves to conform to reality, they want to change reality to conform to them. They say they can't change, but they want the rest of us to do so. Well, I can't change either. I was born again by the Holy Spirit, and like my first birth, it wasn't something I did, nor is it something I can undo.
Not every thought, desire, impulse, or inclination is good and right. A kleptomaniac has to do something about his problem. He can't just say, "well that's just how I am". He can't just accept it.
We are all fallen, and broken. We are all born sinners. God provided a remedy for that, though.
Repent, and believe the Gospel.

Swampy:
I'm not talking about the Gospel of anybody, I'm talking about your ugly words.
I use words like "discrimination", "bigot", "racist", "homophobe" etc. to show people a mirror of how ugly their words sound to normal people.
It's true the law isn't always right. But in this case it is. And people would oppose it loudly if it weren't.
Your words tell me you understand nothing about BOTH homosexuality and empathy. There is no objective truth for one thing, it's all subjective, and no homosexual "chooses" feelings over any such thing. Did YOU choose your feelings towards your significant other? Of course you didn't, so why would it be different for a homosexual? And they aren't rejecting reality. Their reality isn't YOUR reality, that's all. If you're hopelessly locked into a religion that hates homosexuals, that's a choice you have made and you're going to be taken to task for it.
Your decision to compare a kleptopmaniac to a homosexual is for what reason? A kleptomaniac has a problem. A homosexual does not.
Homosexuals might have sins like everyone else, but their attraction to the same gender which they didn't choose and have no control over is not one of them.

Brian Matthews:
Are you really serious? Is this really how your mind works? You're not just pulling my leg?
You don't see anything wrong with what you posted? No logical problems at all?
This has got to be some kind of a joke that I'm not getting.

Swampy:
I can't tell if you're really incredulous over this simple statement of facts which should be surprising to nobody, or if you're feigning it to give off a sense of false outrage. Anyway, no. Read the American Psychological Association's page entitled "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality" if you're genuinely interested.

Brian Matthews:
Oh, you are serious.
No, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I don't want to believe people are this stupid.
And why would I read a bunch of lies, and propaganda?

Swampy:
Oh, you're an anti-science asshole. Well, you should have just said so from the beginning.
As a wise man once said, "The nice thing about science is it's true whether you believe it or not." But by all means, stick to your poisonous hateful theology and continue to marginalize all the people you hate using your holy book to justify it. Because YOU KNOW that is all you are doing.

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Annemarie Diffenderffer #fundie christiannews.net

Listen to any interview from someone who identifies as LGBT. They always seem to come from abuse, violent relationships, empty hookups, and no relationship with Christ...THAT is the reason they’re committing suicide. The Christian persecution is just beginning and expect it to get waaay worse. If Jesus was persecuted, then so will His followers, as no servant is better than their master. Believe we are at the beginning of the end times. The Pope just called for an unholy union between all religions to re-educate the children. Prophecy is unfolding before our very eyes.

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Roger Marks #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

A friend of mine has written a well researched book on homosexuality and he writes a website on cultural issues. He has said that in all the research he has done, he has found that homosexuals are the most hateful people on earth as they can't stand the truth so they will hate anyone who tells it and they claim it is hate speech whereas it is really speech they hate.

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Sister Lottie Davis #fundie disqus.com

beaucejim:
Thing is that there was a time that Christians -unlike homosexuals - did actually go around killing people that THEY disagreed with. Your petty complaint rings hollow and your comment is disingenuous.

Sister Lottie Davis:
If you are talking about the crusades that was the Catholics, not Christians, murdering people. Including true Christians who had bibles and who would not bow to the pope. Do your know Jesus Christ as your Savior? He loves you and He died to save you from your sin. Give your heart and life to Jesus and He will give you the peace you are searching for.

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Amos Moses #fundie disqus.com

(Commenting on story “Church Vandalized After Pastor Opposed Drag Queen Story Hour”)

Lucas Cranach:
I don't support drag queen story hour but it isn't pedosexuality.

Amos Moses:
by default ... yes it is ...... it is the sexualization of children and it is grooming them to be sexualized .......

Lucas Cranach:
The guy reading is the one in drag, not the kid. You have it backwards.

Amos Moses:
nope ... the guy in drag should not be near children .... you have it backwards .... and the fact he is there at all ...... it is the sexualization of children and it is grooming them to be sexualized ....... and the photographic evidence of that is available ...... and a number of them have been found to be child molesters in the past .... so i am exactly spot on

Lucas Cranach:
I agreed with you it's inappropriate he's there.
I disagree with you that it's child sexualization. Because it's not and the child isn't being endangered, just being exposed to something they're too young to understand.
What do you think "sexualizing" means anyway?

Amos Moses:
“I agreed with you it's inappropriate he's there.” then why is he there .... there is no reason .... unless the reason is to grooming children to be sexualized ..... and to prepare them to be sexualized ....
“What do you think "sexualizing" means anyway?” you have already defined it .... I agreed with you it's inappropriate he's there ....... his being there is inappropriate and it is of a sexual nature in front of CHILDREN .............. to include twerking and getting CHILDREN to give them money for dancing like it is a strip club .... FOR CHILDREN

Lucas Cranach:
He's there to read a story. He isn't there to teach them twerking or have sex with them. What do you mean "grooming"? You think he's going to do something to these kids sexually, like molest them? That isn't going to happen because he's not a pedophile, he's probably a homosexual but they would have no interest in children.

Amos Moses:
Drag Queen Story Hour Is A Grooming Program, Says Sex Abuse Counselor
22 AUG, 2019

they are PREPARING them to be molested ........ that is GROOMING ......

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Conservative Protestant #fundie disqus.com

Conservative Protestant:
Sticking a body part up where someone defecates from is just such a sick act. Anyone who can do that has a mental disorder and needs help. These people need help, they really do, something is wrong with them and most of the time they get harassed and persecuted instead of helped, it's all so sad.

Lucas Cranach:
So why are you talking about sodomy when the subject is homosexuality? How often do you think lesbians engage in sodomy?
This is your whole problem, you're looking only at a single sexual act between people of the same sex and ignoring the entire relationship which is no different than that of a straight couple. Would you focus on the sex life of a straight couple the way you are with a gay couple?

Conservative Protestant:
Well those are some ridiculous questions. So what do you suggest, only women can morally be homosexual? 42% of homosexuals are male, so that means 42% are sodomites, that's a huge percentage, but NOT the point.
"you're looking only at a single sexual act between people of the same sex and ignoring the entire relationship which is no different than that of a straight couple"
The relationship without the sex is just friendship, and I have that with many other men. If you add sex to it, then the relationship is blasphemy. I can't believe I even need to say that, it's just so simple.
You have NO idea what I'm looking at, even though I've made it clear, I'm looking at what the Bible says.
You are an evil person (you admitted you are against God, see below), so you can't understand ethics, morals, because without God what standard is there? The only morals there are come from God, otherwise it's just everyone for themselves. You have your morals, I have mine, someone else has theirs, who's to say which set of morals are the right ones? Only the Bible give a true set of moral guidelines.
Lucas Cranach -> Doug Bristow 3 days ago
"We don't know if God is real"
Matthew 12:30 He who is not with Me is against Me
You said you don't know if God exists, so you're not for him, making you against him. Without God, you really have no clue of reality and this discussion will never go anywhere.

Lucas Cranach:
"The relationship without the sex is just friendship, and I have that
with many other men. If you add sex to it, then the relationship is
blasphemy. I can't believe I even need to say that, it's just so simple."

And I can't believe such an outrageous statement pours out of you and you aren't completely appalled by your own lack of empathy. Do you not understand what the word "homosexual" means? Homo means same, sexual means sexual attraction. To call an entire group of human beings blasphemers because they can only fall in love with people of the same sex is beyond disgusting. And you want to talk about ethics and morals? Really?
My advice to you is to abandon your religion. It obviously hasn't done you any favors.

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Oboehner #fundie disqus.com

"hard to believe" I just don't have the faith in the religion of evolutionism. And therefore that something that wasn't quite a lizard has never, nor will ever be observed "evolving" into what we know as a lizard today - not in a bazillion years.

"but people like you seem to think that evolution is thought of as one type of organism giving birth to a radically different one." Nope, no radical change, no change over time, never happened - a fish was always a fish and always will be a fish.

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate’s headline: “CANADA HATES CHRISTIANS: Former Canadian PM says she's 'rooting for a direct hit' of Hurricane Dorian on Mar-a-Lago”

Lady Checkmate:
Canadian alt-left demons love to wish death, rape and hurt on Bible-believing Christians who adhere to God's word. I am not surprised that their leadership is leading the hatred and Christophobia. May God's will be done.

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Mark Bradshaw #fundie disqus.com

“Have you actually taken the time to look up informed consent?” - Sure. It isn’t really a difficult concept to understand. However, YOU have FAILED to justify why consent is important or that not having it makes an action immoral. You’ve FAILED to provide the standard by which you assert rape and not having consent is wrong. You’ve FAILED to show that relations of minors in countries that don’t have legal age of consent laws is wrong. You cannot/have not applied your reasoning in a logical and rational manner.

“For God's sake, you're sitting here ASKING me why we need to protect 8 year old girls from rapists and predators.” - NO. I am asking you to provide moral justification for WHY rape of an 8 year old is wrong. You continue to FAIL to do that. You FAIL to provide a source of your morality that you don’t call “wrong”.

“Why do you require authority when no one is getting hurt or abused?” ---- Because you haven’t shown any moral authority that can assert that “getting hurt” or “being abused” is morally wrong. All you’ve said is that YOU are the arbiter of your morals. You FAIL to realize that illogical nature of such a position. If YOU are the arbiter of YOUR morals, and another is the arbiter of THEIR morals, why are YOUR morals any better than theirs? If there is no standard by which to judge morals, then ANY set of morals cannot be deemed wrong.

“What is YOUR answer if you keep telling me that mine is no good and comes from the wrong authority?” ----- My answer is that rape or abuse of ANYONE is morally wrong. The difference between my position and yours is that I have a moral authority that says such action is wrong – and all you have is YOU.

“You're going to tell me it's wrong for an 8-year old to be abused by a predatory adult because JESUS.” ---- God is the only moral authority standard. Jesus said to love thy neighbor and to not sin. Clearly, other societies don’t hold these same moral values. But, according to you, that’s A-OK because the individual determines his/her OWN morals.

“In fact I said the opposite. A slave does not consent. Stop lying your ass off.” ----- You asserted that LEGALITY is the determining factor – According to YOUR REASONING, slavery was okay because it was legal.

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Okie Doke #fundie disqus.com

The pro LGBT have as much (spiritually and morally) in common with us as members of groups such as ISIS, Hamas, Al Qaeda, and other Muslim groups.

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Michael Louwe #fundie disqus.com

Story: “Australian MP Accuses Church of Handing Out ‘Hate Flyers’ in Distributing Gospel Tracts at Pride Festival”

Michael Louwe:
If outreach by Christians to LGBTQs and others is Hate Speech, then an LGBTQ Pride Festival in front of Christians and others is also Hate Speech or Hate Festival.

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

“Why ex-gays are despised by LGBT movement”

https://youtu.be/Ab0aPpkI33A

(LifeSiteNews) – Elizabeth Johnston, better known as the “Activist Mommy,” came to Washington, DC to address what she calls, “one of the most marginalized and censored groups in our culture: The ex-homosexual.”

Johnson spoke to a crowd of about 80 mostly former homosexual and transexual millenials who had come to the Nation’s Capital last weekend for the first annual “Freedom March,” the brainchild of Jeffrey McCall, a young man who had once lived as a woman.

“I am pro-choice,” announced Johnson, co-opting one of the sacred mantras of the sexual revolution, and turning it on its head. “I believe people who choose to engage in homosexual sin also have the right to choose not to engage in homosexuality. And they have the choice to seek therapy for their unnatural and unwanted desires.”

“I am tolerant,” she added. “I want homosexuals to have the freedom to speak their mind and beliefs. And I believe those who believe homosexuality is a sin against God also have the right––under God and under our First Amendment––to speak our beliefs.”

Earlier during the jubilant, prayerful rally on the grounds of the Washington Monument, those gathered were treated to one powerful testimony after another by former gays, lesbians, and transexuals who had discovered transformative power in Jesus Christ. These folks spoke not of “conversion therapy” but of conversion to Christ and of finding new life in Him.

“Why does the LGBT community want to silence these beautiful stories?” asked Johnson. “Because the stories of these overcomers are the death blow to the lie that homosexuals were born that way, and they cannot change.”

Mick Williams:
So much for 'being born that way'.

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

PERSECUTION: Demons Came Out to Taunt

Man possessed with demons is known in the Toronto community to take under age boys from church groups out late a night without parents consent. He (a homosexual pedophile) was previously caught walking around naked on the Streets of Toronto and participating in LGBT events. Man was kicked out of 14 different churches and decided to attack Pastor David on the street while David was preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. This man has been spoken to receive help many times in private by leaders of 14 different churches. Pastor David EXPOSES and addresses this man Publicly to Repent from Sin and Turn to the Lord.

PLEASE BE AWARE IF YOU ARE ON THIS CHANNEL OR TROLLING THESE VIDEOS TO LEAVE HATE, LIES, SLANDER and TO CAUSE DIVISION AMONG THE CHRISTIAN BRETHREN - YOUR COMMENTS WILL BE DELETED AND PROFILES BLOCKED.

Lady Checkmate (in commenting area):
Mitchell- the angry, ranting, raving cussing man is clearly a demonized demoniac, filled with hate and an evil filthy perverted lust for teenage boys. That homosexual pedophile (who often appears naked, high and drunk in public) will bow before God and be judged for his rebellion, hatred and pedophilia. Brethren, that possessed man is who Canada has deemed a "protected class". That demoniac, who feels he has a right to groom, rape and molest teenage boys (13 years old), has more rights than Christians in Canada.
CANADA HATES CHRISTIANS.

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

(Lady Checkmate deleted her Disqus account and created a new one…no one knows why)

Mick Williams:
Morning, LC. The new account is a little confusing, but proceed as you think best. We're all solidly in your corner.

Lady Checkmate:
Good day, Mick Williams (Mick Williams). I apologize for the confusion, but as you can imagine, I'm not in a position to post my plans here (beforehand anyway) due to the mentally ill cyberstalker's stalking, harassment, death threats and kill-lists. The cyber-stalker obsessively stalks our channel like a deranged serial killer. We all know that there aren't many new users on the DISQUS channel system...it's dying-really dead already - and will be sunset in a few days. I believe God's divine plan is for the cyber-stalker to hear/read His Truth here. The fact is, the cyberstalker would be number one on our Contributor's List if hate and trolling were allowed, but alas :). I continue to pray that he seeks Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. My intent is to obey God, speak the Truth in love and allow God to provide the increase. I sincerely hope he submits to God before he bows before Him.

On another note, I do not like that you and other Christians were added to the cyberstalker's "kill-list". I mean, no sane person issues "kill-lists", but cyberstalkers are NOT sane. I wanted to let you know that I'm ok with you resigning and hopefully avoiding any further harassment. We know that as Bible-believing Christians we will be persecuted, but death-threats, rape fantasies, kill-lists, death wishes, etc., in 2019? Just because we are Bible-believing Christians who adhere to God's Word? We are living in the end time. The reprobates are insane and out for blood. I am not pushing you out...you are always welcome here, but I've already scrubbed. This user account will be discarded when the channel system sunsets. I took your advice: new icon, new username, etc., Death threats, rape fantasies, death wishes and kill-lists DO touch a nerve. I wish I knew you personally to truly convey this to you in a way that would maybe make more sense and a way in which you could see my heart in this.

Finally, I appreciate all that you have done here. I have a lot of respect for you. I am trying to protect you and the others I care about here. I recommend at some point, you also follow your advice: new username, new icon, etc. The ministry here will continue, until DISQUS sunsets channels, but the cyberstalker will not be aware of our next move. Please forgive me if I did not communicate as well as possible, but there's a lot going on. The cyberstalker wants us dead...it is not funny.

Again, because everyone should know and see what the alt-left does to Bible-believing Christians who adhere to God's word:
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-battlegrounddiscuss/cyberstalkers_cross_channel_attacks_and_targeted_harassment_80/

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

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Image says: “Yes, I am a Christian. I believe in the Bible. I do not support homosexuality or “homosexual marriage”. Yes, I still love you. Yes, we are still friends. No, I am not judging you. No, I am not condemning you to hell. No, I will not let anyone bully you. But realize that name-calling and stereotyping those of us who stand for what we believe is exactly what you don’t want done to you. We have a right to speak what we believe, same as you have a right to speak what you believe.”

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Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

"Two gay men entering a monogamous relationship..."

Sorry mate, a monogamous relationship and homosexuality is an oxymoron. Those sort of relationships constitute about .00000000001% of homosexual relationships. The rest are a constant search for sex outside of the relationship as has been well documented in books, and on TV and by homosexuals themselves.

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Oboehner #fundie disqus.com

Oboehner:
Ok then, so you have nothing [proving evolution], got it. Perhaps then you should as they say put up or shut up.

Lucas Cranach:
I didn't say nothing. I said [Dewey decimal number] 591.38. Did you go look it up, or did you play Mr. Ostrich again?

Oboehner:
If you can't argue your own points, all you're doing is proving my blind faith point. Appeal to authority arguments don't cut it either, having me doing your leg work to waste my time with more assumption and speculation doesn't help your case either.

Lucas Cranach:
I don’t need to argue them. Evolution is a science. Been to your library yet? That Dewey decimal number I gave you is still valid. We don’t need to appeal since we have proof.

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Angerfist #fundie #pratt disqus.com

"Now, that some sects of Christianity have issues with the LGBT crowd is not a surprise. But to be deliberately dishonest and suggest that they have embraced pedophiles is utterly revolting, completely despicable."

I find it odd that people who advocate for no objective morals regarding sex act the complete opposite when it comes to pedophelia. The same people who say we should not judge others based on sexual predisposition turn and judge those with sexual predispositions. The same people who say we should not impose sexual morals on others turn and impose objective sexual morals on others. The same people who say we should not be so bigoted turn and act like bigots.

What is completely missed by liberals, the moment you embraced subjective morality and embraced sexual perversions with homosexuality, you paved a wide road for pedophelia.

Its a logical conclusion, not a hate filled one.

The only way to oppose pedophilia is by asserting sexuality has a certain purpose being desire and should be guided by certain objective morals.

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cadcoke5 #pratt #fundie disqus.com

"And if they're wrong, they're not wrong to the tune of 4 billion years plus." Actual tests show that these dating methods can be off by similar magnitudes.

Actually, the radiometric dating process shows a lot of inconsistencies. For example, if the entire earth were a giant diamond consisting of only Carbon 14, all of it would have decayed in the age that secularists assign to diamonds. Yet, it is there. True the C14 gives an "age" of 55,000, if we assume the current rate of C14 accumulation. Less radiation would inflate the age. So, unless we can calibrate theC14 formation rate, we can't really take these "ages" as valid. But, at the very least, it invalidates the billions of years normally assigned to diamonds.

Soft tissue has a comparable half-life type of decay rate. So, for the evolutionists, it is foolish to expect a dinosaur fossil to have soft tissue, yet it is there.

Since lava is supposed to start at 0 years, when it solidifies, we can compare known dates of lava formations, to what its radiometric dates give. But, when we do so, for lava that was known to erupt in less than 40 ago, we can get results over 3 million years, using the Potassium-argon method normally used for supposedly old samples. But, if the rock were to contain something that evolutionists expect to be from 3+ million years ago, it is assumed to be correct. There are various proposed solutions offered for the wrong dates for modern lava, but why are presumed older rocks immune from the same problems? Why should a method that tests wrong when we can verify it, be assumed to be right when we cannot verity it?

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate’s headline: “Ex-Gay Advocate: I THOUGHT GOD DIDN’T CARE WHEN I WAS REPEATEDLY MOLESTED BY ADULT HOMOSEXUAL MEN - I WAS WRONG.” (Original article title: “Ex-Gay Advocate: I Thought God Didn't Care When I Was Repeatedly Molested—I Was Wrong”)

Joe Dallas gives his personal testimony of seduction and molestation as a young boy by homosexual pedophiles, years spent in the gay lifestyle, addiction to pornography, involvement in the “gay church” and God’s rescue from certain death and disaster.

https://youtu.be/DuFWJsJCBPM

Lady Checkmate:
Thank God He was delivered. God is good! I can only imagine the damage, hurt and confusion he suffered growing up as a young boy being raped by several homosexual men. This is another example of what the alt-left refuses to admit and address, YET, they continue to sexualize children by having them strip for homosexual men and having a homosexual man dressed as a woman teach children how to twerk in a public library. Smh.

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(Image says LGBTP - Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Pedosexual - Equality and Acceptance and shows rainbow)

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

“Alabama church gets the OK to use private police force”

Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey has signed a bill that will allow a Presbyterian church to use its own private police force on its campus.

The law, approved two weeks ago, allows the Birmingham-based Briarwood Presbyterian Church to establish a private law enforcement department to make arrests when crimes are committed on its properties.

The law will also apply to the church’s school campus and a private academy that is located in another county. Church officials said the measure was necessary to provide adequate security for the 2,000 students and faculty on its two private school campuses.

Randall Marshall, the executive director of the ACLU of Alabama, said the law could allow the church to cover-up criminal activity that occurs on its campuses. He added that the law will likely be challenged in court for unconstitutionally granting government power to a religious institution.

The new policy will go into effect in the fall.


Lady Checkmate:
This may be necessary to deal with the alt-left Christophobes who hate, stalk, threaten and wish to murder Christians, anywhere they can.

Oxford Martyrs:
If you're going to allow mass immigration of Muslims into this country then allowing churches and Christian schools the ability to protect themselves makes sense.

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

As it was in the days of Sodom & Gomorrah: LGBTP(edosexuals) Demand Equality and Acceptance

Say NO to the sodomites! Please pray for the children. The alt-left is promoting pedophilia, teaching children to strip and twerk for adult homosexual men and demanding that homosexual pedophiles be accepted and made a protected class:

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(Image which was created by 4Chan trolls says LGBTP with P standing for pedosexual - says “equality and acceptance”)

Mick Williams:
It isn't about 'rights', which they've had since the Bush-Clinton era. It's about forcing their perversion on the next generation. Otherwise, it would die out, and Satan can't be having that.

Bill589:Often my problem with the LGBQXYZ is that they don’t want equal rights, they want special rights, such as being able to ‘marry’ the same gender.

Lady Checkmate:
And they also want to have children strip and twerk for them in gay bars and public libraries. It’s disgusting, inappropriate and an abomination that they will answer to God for.

Rebel:
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(Shaman wearing a peace symbol is conducting a marriage ceremony to two very androgynous people, saying: “And now, by the authority of my crystals, my stars, the states of Massachusetts, Iowa, Connecticut & hopefully Vermont and California - I pronounce you husband and husband! And what humans have joined together, let not God put asunder!”)

Mick Williams:
This is good. I can smell the troll hair burning as they fume over it.

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Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

"There isn't a gay person alive who would back NAMBLA or anything they stand for - gay people are just as opposed to the abuse of children as everyone else."

More homosexual mumbo jumbo. I have found over the years if you want to know the truth about anything to do with homosexuality you take the opposite view to what is being turned out by the homosexual media machine.
So....no homosexual person alive would back NAMBLA. Not true.
The fact that NAMBLA exists indicates that there some homosexual do back the organisation and the fact that their claim they are born that way resonates with some homosexuals so they will back them.
The same as some homosexuals are OK with sex with animals and some are OK with eating feces.
In fact, whatever perversion you come across, their will be some homosexuals that are for it.

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Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Useful Idiot Logic

Colleges used to teach sequential logic, a three part statement that proves the conclusion via a central link. Liberal education has no use for it, so it had to go. Here's an example:

Fingers are part of the hand; the hand is part of the body; therefore fingers are part of the body.

Even a liberal wouldn't debate something so obvious. Since truth is their kryptonite, they use two part inferred logic, which is always false. To whit:

You don't wear the rainbow jersey; therefore you're a homophobe.

Note the absence of a link, since none exists. The burden of proof is on the accuser, which isn't a problem since he has a blank check courtesy of the fake media. Has the accused made anti-gay threats or jokes?--belonged to a vigilante group that stalks them? Note also that 'phobia' is an irrational fear, such as that of sunflowers (yep--it's on record). Here's another entertaining example of child-like reasoning:

The president said four non-white congresswomen should go back to their home countries; therefore he's a racist.

Wow, where to even begin. First, the president has never made a racist statement. Second, note the omission of the real target of his ire: the rabid anti-Americanism of these four useful idiots. His remark is an opinion: If you hate this country, then leave. Now let's prove our useful idiot comment.

Useful idiots, as defined by Joe Stalin, blindly follow the communist party line; these four women blindly follow the communist party line; therefore these women are useful idiots.

The proof of their communist agenda is abundantly found in their hatred of Israel, dislike of strong borders, anti-Christian statements, love of socialism. . . .that's another post entirely. Case closed.

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

"From Homosexuality to Freedom in Jesus"

Molested at a young age of two (by a homosexual male pedophile), Jordan found lust growing within himself. Before long, he was living a double life in the church while giving over to homosexual sin. Yet the overwhelming mercy of God won Jordan back and set him free.

https://youtu.be/0AHR-wV-nwY

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate’s headline: “Reprobate Pete Buttigieg questions some GOP lawmakers' faith over their stance on minimum wage”

Theologian Jonathan Morris weighs in on Pete Buttigieg's remarks calling some Republican senators 'so-called Christians' because of their refusal to raise the minimum wage.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6066131434001/#sp=show-clips

Mick Williams:
And this from a so-called Christian himself. Eyeroll.

Lady Checkmate:
Pete is very lost and confused. I pity him...and not because I’m in any way better than him. Yes, he has earthly influence, but long term...he has nothing. Sadly, he has been greatly deceived and runs the risk of spending eternity in hell separated from the only living God. My heart weeps for Pete. It’s as if he doesn’t know...as if he hasn’t heard that God is NOT mocked. Everyone will have to give an account of what they did with this life and rather or not we lived it for Jesus Christ:
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(image says: THE GREATEST DECEPTION OF THE DEVIL IS WHEN HE TRICKS SOMEONE INTO THINKING THEY ARE SAVED WHEN THEY ARE NOT. NARROW IS THE WAY, WHICH LEADETH UNTO LIFE, AND FEW BE THERE THAT FIND IT. MATTHEW 7:14)

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

UPDATE: DISQUS Channel System Removal, Safety Tips & Helpful Information

Peace to you.

Previously, I shared with you all that DISQUS is sunsetting the Channel System. I look forward to the sunsetting of channels and welcome the end of this season. I ran my race here. I finished my course. I shared Jesus Christ and truth as often as I could with everyone I could...even through intense cyberstalking, death threats, death wishes, rape fantasies, etc. I am not responsible for anyone who rejected Him (their blood is on their own heads).

I started a blog for us. I will be tagging those I trust to our new blog (with instructions). I took some suggestions from Mick (genius ideas btw) and scrubbed my Lady Checkmate account and I am no longer using that username.

(stuff deleted she has posted before)

My first tags will be to those with Private User Accounts and those who have given me their email address to be added as Trusted Users. Our serial-killer-like cyberstalker is holding his breath, anxiously stalking and hoping I post the link to our new community here, so I won't :). In fact, our community is Private, so he won't have access to it...even when he tries to follow stalk one of you with Open User Accounts to it-he's a crazed cyber-stalker that way, so don't be surprised if he's already followed one of you guys waiting for you to post there. Be safe.

Mick Williams:
I use a disposable email in case it gets hacked. It helps to stay connected in case we all want to share some new insight in the march of end times prophecy. Maybe not every day, but as the spirit wills. Another thought occurs--blogs don't have to deal with thousands of fake accounts. Once a troublemaker is locked out, he's done, unless he has enough friends to let him use their computers. In the case of solitary, lonely trolls, that isn't likely.

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Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Hierarchy--a chart of who's who in this run-up to the end, to whit: the god of this world, his Illuminati puppets, their dimocrat dupes, the communist media, and the useful idiots who make it all possible. The strobe light routine of these grinning anchors is well established for their unthinking clientele: the obligatory Trump bash, the climate change innuendo, and the fluffy human interest story. Look at the cute baby seals; ignore the Epstein-Clinton pedophile scandal; there's no DOJ noose tightening around deep state traitors like Orr and Comey.

Loudly braying the anti-gun mantra of these false flag architects, Rolling Stone calls for repeal of the second amendment. Disarmament must always precede civil war. But in a poor display of coordination, ultra liberal ESPN pulled a trailer for a film about liberals shooting conservatives for sport. The comic irony has escaped the film's writers: outnumbered liberal cowards would quickly learn the error of such a stunt.

Strong delusion, as prophesied, has set in. The CEO of Gillette has no regrets about his transgender ads costing him eight billion in revenue. Antifa fascists in New York post flyers demanding concentration camp for conservatives. Third world California deepens its indoctrination of pre-schoolers into the homosexual and Islamic agendas. Clowns making balloon animals give way to drag queen story hours. Unless these innocents are spared by an event known as the Blessed Hope, they face a dismal graduation day as card-carrying dimocrats, the latest settlers in a crowded place called The Twilight Zone.

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate’s headline: “Because everyone should know and see what the alt-left does to Bible-believing Christians who adhere to God's word...”
Brethren, I'd resisted in posting this here, but as DISQUS sunsets, I want to make sure you are aware that the Christophobic alt-left is ramping up their violence and hatred against Bible-believing Christians who adhere to God's Holy Word. Even here, on DISQUS, I received posts where the cyberstalker sent me a kill-list (with several of our names on it), demanded I kill myself, stated he mass-downvotes my comments because it makes him feel like he's "slapping me as hard as he can and that makes him feel so good" (in other words-it makes him feel good to hurt people-even when he's not really hurting them), he's stated that another Bible-believing Christian who adheres to God's word should be "shot in the head, execution style, point blank range, one bullet" and many more like it. Please read on for more...

(stuff deleted, much of what follows has been posted before)

In closing, as previously mentioned, I will not be posting any information on our new community here. I will tag those who requested a tag. I hope this helps you guys understand why we pre-moderated, and took other actions we felt were necessary. Death threats, death-wishes, rape-fantasies, and kill-lists are not funny. I mean, you guys know he's crazy...he regularly tagged you all to show his mental illness. In fact, he may tag you again-after this posts...be careful, if/when you visit a blog, the blog's admin can see your IP address, email address and other information...which is NOT safe. If he was caught stalking irl (doing the same thing in real life that he does on DISQUS), he'd be in an asylum, not encouraged to continue to stalk and harass. He's a very evil and deeply disturbed person. I truly do love you guys and pray God's will for your lives. If I don't meet you here, but you are a child of God...I'll see you heaven.

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Mark Bradshaw #fundie disqus.com

(Excerpts of a conversation in progress - some content removed because context can’t be provided)

“No, because rapists and murderers are not consenting, they're abusing others. Once again, you do not understand informed consent.” ----- I do understand what informed consent it. But you still haven’t cited why informed consent makes behavior moral or not.

“No, because you do not understand the concept of consent.” ---- I do. And a child can provide consent. Your hang-up is “legal” consent. If the legal system has no definition of age required for consent, is having relations with an 8 year old moral or immoral? And why?

“You fail to understand the difference between consent and abuse.” ----- You’ve shown NO connection between the two. You’ve FAILED to show why a child cannot give consent – other than “It’s the law”. So, I ask again, since slavery was legal, is slavery moral?

“If they find nothing wrong with rape or murder, yes their morals are wrong.” ----- HOW can you make this claim that their morals are wrong?

“All right, go ahead and abuse a child.” ----- Again, HOW is it abuse if (the child) consents?

“Says the law. Age of consent laws exist for a reason.” ----- So, the law is the arbiter of what is/isn’t moral? I guess slavery was moral, right? What about countries/societies that don’t have laws regarding age of consent – are relations with children moral in those instances?

“And you have elected to believe your denomination is right and the rest are wrong.” ----- Not “the rest” – just those who reject God and His word. But the same could be said of YOU, right? You reject anyone that doesn’t believe the same way you do. How is that any different than what you accuse me of doing?

“- No, I'm asserting that you have what everyone else has - an interpretation, which means you're just as wrong as everyone else and no one can agree about things because you're all so sure you've chosen the 100% correct understanding.” ----- Upon WHAT AUTHORITY can you claim that I am wrong? How can YOU be sure that YOU’VE CHOSEN the “correct” morals? You cannot even cite an authoritative source for those morals.

“You're trying to give it the answer you want, but you can't do that.” ---- I am using how words are defined.

“People don't commit murder because they believe it's acceptable...come on. They do it out of desperation in their situation and because they no longer care and have lost the ability to reason.” ----- So, now you are a psychologist and can claim to know the motivations of every murderer?

“I love the way you think any two people on earth can just make the decision to copulate and it's going to work out peachy.” ----- When did I ever assert that any behavior will “work out peachy”? Why do you insist on asserting that I’ve said things I haven’t actually said?

“Desires you feel you have the right to tell people to squash because of your religion.” ----- FALSE. All that I’ve simply stated is that homosexual behavior is immoral. People “squash” emotions and desires all of the time.

“Not confused at all. I never said our parents got everything right.” ----- Yet you DID say that you learn your morals from your parents – that your parents are your moral authority.

“We get older and our brains develop and we learn for ourselves what good morals are.” ----- “Good” based upon WHAT? You are essentially saying that YOU are your own moral authority. If someone’s morals allow for murder or rape, is that acceptable? If not, then upon WHAT AUTHORITY can one assert something is good/bad, moral/immoral?

“that as we learn to think for ourselves that we don't need a holy book to tell us what's right and wrong.” ---- Upon WHAT BASIS can you determine something to be right or wrong, moral or immoral? You haven’t answered that simple question. You keep going on and on about “learning what is right and wrong”, yet have NEVER cited a source for what is right and wrong. If someone grows up learning that murder and rape are moral, how can you say that murder and rape aren’t moral?

“This is the last time I'm going to humor you on this subject since you don't know and have no desire to know the difference between consent and abuse.” ----- Again, you continue to FAIL to cite an authoritative source for why abuse is wrong, or where not providing legal consent is a qualifier of abuse. You have FAILED to show why, in a society where there is no law regarding age of consent, it is immoral to have relations with a child who has consented.

“We take rapists and murderers out of circulation when they engage in this behavior because it's abuse and it's illegal.” ----- But WHY are those acts immoral? Why are “abuse” and “illegal behavior” immoral? WHAT AUTHORITY asserts that these acts are immoral?

“We don't do the same with homosexuals because they decide to engage in a sexual act because it's not abuse. No one gets hurt.” ----- Whether one gets hurt or not doesn’t determine morality.

“Yes. Age of consent laws aren't absolutely perfect and no two countries draw the lines in the same places, but they do the best they can.” ----- So, if a country/society define no legal age limits on consent, having relations with a 6 year old is acceptable/moral?

“The 20 year old man goes to jail. Quite rightly.” ---- What about in countries that don’t have any limits on age of consent? Is that 20 year old man having relations with a 6 year old girl moral or immoral?

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Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

Straight out of the homosexual denial book.
If they can form a deep lasting relationship with someone of the same sex, why is it which homosexuals research shows that they average relationship is 2 years. I don't call that deep and lasting bearing in mind that this year I celebrate my 50th wedding anniversary.
If there is no cure why have so many homosexuals become ex homosexuals? I know the gaystapo come up with all sorts of excuses to deny this fact but it doesn't alter the fact that it is a fact.
I have actually asked about 200 homosexuals for evidence that they were born homosexual. So far their evidence is zilch. They have none which says that they were not born homosexual.
Your rejection of homosexuality being a sin changes nothing at all. All it does is make you delusional and evidently you are trying to convince yourself of something that is not true.
No one was created to be homosexual as God said he created them male and female. Not male and female and homosexual.
Homosexuality is an attempt by Satan to distort God's creation and make it what it is not. That is why homosexuals generally are very unhappy people and deep down wish they were not what they are, hence so many of them wanting help to not be homosexual.

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Mick Williams #fundie disqus.com

Today's Laugh 8-14-19

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Image shows some sort of debate. First man says, "You're infected with a noxious groupthink that wants to silence honest debate your communist agenda can't win."
Moderator says, "The professor will rebut Mr. Smith's racist comment."
Third man says, "BIGOT...HOMOPHOBE! Security--have this man thrown out."

Mick Williams:
"Snowflake U"

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Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Mick Williams:
It's also what compels trolls to Christian sites, while we completely ignore theirs. Deep down, they're threatened by what they know is true.

Lady Checkmate:
Well said. I shared with another brother that the irony is off the chart. An obsessed troll, who stalks a Christian site and Bible-believing Christians, spends countless hours (for years) creating sock armies and trolling and harassing (issuing death threats, death wishes, rape fantasies and creating kill-lists) has the audacity to call the people they stalk and harass, the same people who ignore them and their site...insane. Who calls the peace-keepers who ignore the loud, lying hateful, barking trolls, insane. LOL! The irony is hilarious. How does a proven crazed, mentally ill, cyberstalking troll attempt to take a moral high ground that doesn't exist. And, anyone not calling the crazed stalker, it's socks and it's irrational and illogical claims crazy...is not quite there and only enabling someone who belongs in an asylum-which disqualifies them from being taken seriously.

Interesting tidbit: When a stalker who is banned, whose socks and bots are banned immediately, and who is not welcome on a site and knows they are not welcome on a site, still creates socks to try and force their way onto that site anyway (against the other user's wishes) to circumvent their ban (which shows a violent, arrogant and forceful tendency-they must be used to forcing themselves on people), then pretends they're surprised their socks are still being banned, surprised that nothing they attempt to post using sock accounts is taken seriously, 99.9% of the time not even read, nor allowed in a community, you realize you are dealing with a seriously mentally ill person. Someone who feels seriously entitled, is extremely damaged, probably has long-term and short-term memory issues and should never be trusted. But the funniest thing, is when they pretend you want to post on their site. Then they tag you to a site you'd almost forgotten about (and someone has to tell you you were tagged because you've banned and blocked most of the trolls-again ignoring the hate), but then when you tag the owner to let them know you don't appreciate being tagged and harassed...and the owner pretends that you responding to being tagged and harassed to a site they own, is wrong. LOL! It's like, man, someone on your site tagged us there and you know we are not community members there, so why are you begging us over there. You also know that we ignore your trolls, but your trolls are now tagging us to your hate threads. Responding to you (the tag on your site) is the right thing to do, it is letting you know we don't appreciate the harassing tags on your site. We don't allow those trolls on our site because we don't want our site to look like your site...we don't want them here. In other words, you can keep your trolls, because we don't want them. If we wanted to entertain your trolls, we would do so here, but we don't. We know what they believe and we are not interested in anything they have to say, which is why them and their socks are repeatedly banned. Your trolls reject Jesus Christ, hate Bible-believing Christians and threaten our lives, we have shaken the dust from our feet. Normal, mentally healthy people do not stalk other people because they disagree with them and do not want to talk to them or better yet, listen to or read their foolish, Christophobic, blasphemous rhetoric: Cyberstalkers, Cross-channel Attacks and Targeted Harassment
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-battlegrounddiscuss/cyberstalkers_cross_channel_attacks_and_targeted_harassment/

You're more concise than I am, but yeah :).

Mick Williams:
I never even bother with the spam file, but that really hit a nerve, judging by the first few words of the latest berserker tirade.

Lady Checkmate:
I usually don't read the comment's of socks, which post to the Pending or Spam File, but the death threats, death wishes, rape fantasies, kill-lists, etc., I make sure to save to report. That hateful, evil troll, seems dead-set on harassing and killing Bible-believing Christians and it is not ok. It is not just trolling. It is terroristic death threats. Anyone supporting a troll's terroristic death threats has no credibility. There are some sick and demonic people online. Who has time to create hundreds if not thousands of socks (over years) to fill up the Pending and Delete file...that is NOT normal brother. Amos Moses visited one hate thread started by the troll, and he said he was banned after five minutes, lol. They are only interested in hate and harassment...they hate Truth.