Conservative commentator Ann Coulter implied that racial minorities are the cause of the country's "gun problem" during a Monday appearance on Fox's Hannity show.
Coulter's comments come as President Obama is poised to announce sweeping changes to the nation's gun laws.
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Coulter also mockingly criticized the lack of diversity among President Obama's cabinet selections, which have so far included several white men, specifically Sen. John Kerry for secretary of state, Chuck Hagel for defense secretary, and Jack Lew for treasury secretary.
"The lack of diversity just shocks me, shocks me!" she continued, feigning outrage.
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Last twenty-five years, two black and two ethnic Asian mass or serial shooters, and quite a hell of a few who were white. Yeah, might be a demographic problem.
"If you compare white populations, we have the same murder rate as Belgium," she said."
Really? The US has a gun crime rate of over 11,000 gun crimes per year. White Americans account for around half of those crimes. Belgium has a rate of 5,500 gun crimes a year? Lol I think not.
@Reynardine: Without meaning to imply agreement with Coulter, I feel the need to note that mass shooters, spree shooters, and serial killers who use guns all generate a miniscule fraction of firearm homicides, and their composition is therefore irrelevant to a serious discussion of the reasons for America's problem with people using guns to murder each other.
I think that racism is inherent in human beings. Almost every sane human being has a "suspicious" reaction to somebody who is radically different from them. When you have a cracker village with a water well, when someone poisons it, suspicion will naturally fall on that one black dude who was living there all the time. Humans always divide into factions and blame other factions for their misfortunes, regardless of whether they are or aren't to blame.
The logical solution will be non-discriminatory segregation. Countries shall be divided in districts. If a cracker or a white cunt is a minority in the district, it must be thrown out and transferred to an "all-white" district, if black or asian population is a minority somewhere, their possesions and themselves will be transferred to an all-black or all-asian disctricts.
All those states will have to pay taxes in natural resources and produced goods, not in money. The government will be a mediator between those states and a proprietor of a "nation-wide exchange", where states will be able to trade what they have in abundance for what is scarce.
After this society is formed, complete with a powerful and competent government, we will be forever devoid of racism, sexism and other discriminations, because crackers and blacks and mexicans simply won't interact with each other and claiming other faction affecting your welfare will be grounds to be hospitalized and your extreme idiocy treated with lobotomy. USA will be a powerful meritocratic country.
What do you think?
@Tyrone Zee Dolores
Fuck off, troll.
@Aestherus
How exactly this is trolling? If you look out of the window instead of your TV, you will notice that there is a whole fucking lot of discrimination going on. It is not good, it is not bad, it is inherent, just like uneasiness on high catwalks or in dark places and discriminatory attitudes should be negated by segregation, not purged. Am I offering to kill all whites, like some retards do? No, I don't.
I am offering a logical, in my opinion, solution to this.
You, however, do not offer anything except victimizing Blacks, females and Azians with disproportionate insurance premiums and "black-only" medicines, implying that we are unable to provide for ourselves. What, your redneck school didn't teach you to think?
Shut the fuck up, TZD. You sound like a white racist trolling to me, not any kind of brother.
As for Coulter, isn't her fifteen minutes up yet?
@NWA
@D Laurier
"If you compare white populations, we have the same murder rate as Belgium"image
"Coulter also mockingly criticized the lack of diversity among President Obama's cabinet selections, which have so far included several white men, specifically Sen. John Kerry for secretary of state, Chuck Hagel for defense secretary, and Jack Lew for treasury secretary."image
That's rich. Some goddamn Arab telling me I'm not a real nigger. Some fucking Arab advocating apartheid and claims not to be racist. Some fucking Arab who throws about terms like 'white cunt' and 'cracker' and refers to a white person as 'it', claims not to be racist. Some asshole Arab who thinks 'black people' (that's not you then) are less sinful than white people because God created us first, claims not only to be not racist, but sane.
I do hope you are a troll, because if you're not, you're a lunatic.
Reminds me of a line from Family Guy when they were watching a pro-gun video:
"Remember, guns don't kill people, dangerous minorities do."
If you look at firearm-related deaths, white Americans have a rate of 6.3/100,000 (all US 10.2/100,000). Belgium has a rate of 2.43/100,000. The nearest countries to white US rates are Argentina and Nicaragua.
Two more points: 1) thanks to the legal position, gun crime is extraordinarily difficult to estimate in the US; 2) about a quarter of gun crimes are committed by persons unknown, so we have no clue as to whether they are white, black or anything else.
Vox, she said the "murder rate", not the "gun murder rate". The statistic does still seem inaccurate though, but not for the reason you are claiming.
EDIT: Also, Belgium 1/30th of the population of the US so it won't have nearly as many murders anyway.
Christoper: Yes, it is relevant, because extended fire, rapid fire weapons, whose sole purpose is to slaughter large numbers of people, are the very weapons whose spread is being advocated by the politico-ethnic group that commits the most such civilian slaughters and expresses the most intent to commit more.
TZD, please rinse the smegma out of your mouth before your next utterance here. With Listerine, if you please.
@#1514337
Even if you count all homicides by perpetrator, you are left with a rate for white America of 1.88/100,000. Belgium's is 1.7. White America's would be the sixth highest rate in the EU. And that is, as I said, without taking into account that in over a quarter of homicides in the US, the culprit's ethnicity is unknown and the general difficulty of collecting such statistics in the States.
Were we to assume that the unknown perpetrators were in the same racial proportions as those who are known, then we would be looking at a rate of 2.32/100,000, the worst in the EU bar one and akin to the murder rates of Malaysia and Syria.
@TZD - No black gays, eh? Tell that to my cousin. He's black and gay as the spring rain. Not that being gay is a bad thing (or a good thing), it just is. Like heterosexuality.
And, no, racism is not an inherent human trait. Noticing visual differences is but that's not the same as racism. Racism is a modern invention of the 17th century (arguably with roots in the Spanish Reconquista and the Arab Slave Trade). The ancient Romans and Greeks spoke quite highly of the mixed Egyptians, the black Nubians and Axumites and the tan/swarthy Persians. They spoke quite lowly of fellow white Germanic, Slavic and Celtic tribes and had no qualms about selling fellow "white people" into slavery to nonwhite civilizations. Same with Africans. Nubians had no qualms about selling fellow "black people" into slavery to non-black Persians, Greeks and Romans (and later West Africans selling fellow "black people" to Europeans).
Fuck off Black Supremacist troll.
Signed,
@#1514337 - True, she said "murder rate" (which actually bodes worse for her since the total murder rate in the US is EVEN HIGHER than the gun crime rate). However, even if you subtract all murders committed by a nonwhite offender the US would still be FAAAAR higher than any other industrialized or Western country.
Even adjusting for population size. Without minorities the US population would be about 20x the size of Belgium's population, but the murder rate in the US would still be more than 50x higher than Belgium's murder rate. Any way you cut it blaming minorities doesn't work since white Americans also have a murder per capita rate far higher than almost all European countries.
@NWA
As for calling white people "it", they deserve it. First they come to Africa, spread cholera and plague, destroy our ancestor's nations, then they import them to Americas as slaves, treating them as cattle, and claiming to be more "civilized". Then they belittled our fathers and mothers, prohibited patriotic citizens who fought WWII from flying planes. Now, under guise of "equality" whites intend to turn our race into stereotypical welfare moochers and ghetto gangbangers.
I think calling whites "it" and "crackers" is the most I can do as payback for all this without getting put on nightly news as "another bloodthirsty nigga". They call us "niggers", why the fuck should we hold back and pretend to not to notice?
And you know nothing about our suffering, I bet you are just a middle-class oreo sitting in his comfortable office, trying to forget how your ancestors fought for freedom to ensure YOU are punching keyboard all day, not having to work on plantation all day.
You are not a real nigger. Noone is a real nigger today, yet whites insist to keep calling us that and will burn in hell for that.
AGAIN, how is apartheid racist? In SAR, apartheid was racist because blacks had worse conditions than whites and whites had waaaay more political and social power. My idea is that EVERY faction, minority or not, will have their own land and their own customs, and no-one will be offended by anything. Racism is when one says some race is superior than other. My idea is that racism won't exist because all these nations will almost never meet each other.
@Mech610
@Vox
@TZM
Ancient Romans had "casus belli" on attacking other nations simply because they were, he-he, not Romans. Ain't it racist?
No. It didn't matter what ethnic origin you had. If you were a citizen of Rome, you were a Roman and they existed from what is now Britain to what is now Iraq. Something similar goes for the Greeks, as it did for the Egyptians. If you spoke their language and adopted their customs, you were Greek (or Egyptian), whatever your color, whatever your origin.
@Dolorous: I'm not sure which is worse, the implicit racism or the obvious fatalism. You seriously don't think we can pierce past our flaws? Don't tell me you've resigned yourself to always being defiled with imperfection, since you at least seem to be claiming that you yourself have auto-suspicion of those not of your race...
Not to mention that I'd like to know what you plan to do about multiple-lineage humans (e.g. half-white half-black, half-white half-Hindi, half-Asian half-Native Canadian, etc. Or, for that matter, someone who's one-fourth each of European, African, Asian, and Native American.)
@TZD:
You say you're Catholic.
You must have one hell of a case of cognitive dissonance.
Why would a black man who has such a hate-on for white people be Catholic? I mean, an awful lot of the atrocities you're deciding to blame the entire "white race" for were perpetrated at the behest of Catholic monarchs with either the complicity or explicit endorsement of the Catholic Church, and I'll note the Catholic Church still hasn't really gotten round to admitting its role in the matter. (And before you start, I'll freely admit that a bunch of those atrocities were committed by Protestants or secularists.)
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