[Re. transsexuals]
But, then, as soon as you get into the details of all this insanity, you’ve got women running to their defense screaming about how the “transwomen” they know don’t even like wearing bras and pantyhose. I simply cannot understand the scramble to find that ONE tranny out of a million who’s somehow not a raging misogynist who believes butchering a male gets you a female.
Any male calling himself any kind of female is misogyny, period. And just because a woman knows and loves one of these misogynists in real life doesn’t mean it’s not woman-hating.
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Margaret, you have established that you know nothing about transsexuality. YOu know what? I'm a ciswoman, and I hate pantyhose. I also wish I could go without a bra, but I'm not the right size for that.
The obvious solution here seems to be for this Margaret to not date a transwoman. Just a thought, really.
So, what are the chances Margaret here has actually met a transperson, and is basing her opinion on her real-life experiences?
(The L)
Awww . *sighs sadly*
So much for seeing you in certain kinds of lingerie, then. *poutpoutpout*
(A Nonny Moose)
Hell, I'd watch it on Pay Per View if the production is done right. *wicked grin*
How the FUCK did she reach this conclusion? I do the math:
Man knows he should've been female + surgery to correct the problem = someone who's finally in the right body.
and that's what I get. Is there a hidden or unknown variable? You'd think they'd see such as woman-LOVING. "They want to be one of us? YES, our army is growing!"
Actually..............forget the last part.
Wait, so by your logic, I should wear a bra and pantyhose instead of my usual boxers? Or shouldn't I, because that would make me a "queer" and therefore a sinner? I'm confused...
...Because someone trying to be what they feel comfortable being is sexist and infringes on your rights as a woman. O-kay then.
As a genetic female, I would like to say shut the hell up.
To the crazies on AROOO (apt name for such a howling mad blog,) men simply existing is an offense to women. They've gone past regular misandry and into some bizarre form of paranoia. To them, every man is a rapist. Not just potential rapist - a straight-out rapist who wants to destroy and enslave women. IIRC, some of these people have sometimes stated that they're afraid that their own five year old son would try to rape them. Some have suggested infanticide of all males as a "solution." These people need help, but I bet they'd see therapy as a "tool of male oppression" or something.
Any male calling himself any kind of female is misogyny, period. And just because a woman knows and loves one of these misogynists in real life doesn’t mean it’s not woman-hating.
Wait, what? Never mind, I don't want to know.
Plato had it that there were conceptual perfect "forms" of everything - for instance a circle, the drawn, "real" versions of which can only imitate at best this imaginary ideal. If the same can be said to be true of gender, or femininity perhaps in this case, then surely transsexuals are just going as far as they can in order to reach the idealised form of femininity (which of course, being an entirely mental creation that women don't completely meat either, like the circle). How is that hating the women who more closely resemble that form, unless its out of some insane misplaced jealousy?
Then again that up there might easily be total bollocks, but I still fail to see, as mngamojemo said, how "wants to be" turns into "hates".
Transsexuals - the only way to have a *REAL* threesome, a man, a woman and a transsexual... Prefect, love it!
Thinking of it gives me a Samba Mania and prepare me for a Rogue Adventure....
Straight outta Margaret's tiny misandarist brain.
"Any male...is misogyny, period. And just because a woman knows and loves one of these misogynists in real life doesn’t mean it’s not woman-hating."
Fixed.
So... the reason transgirls are misogynists are because transgirls require surgery. This implies that a woman is nothing more than a 'butchered' man, from the logic used a few centuries back that because a woman lacked a penis, she was 'incomplete'.
Oh. Oh god. I think I can see their warped train of logic. It's like looking into a sign from another ... world ...Ia! Ia! Cthulhu Fhtagn!
I think Margaret's thought process is that transsexuality is just another way for men to invade women's private environments and the female experience.
Not to say that this is reasonable in the slightest. Because it isn't and Margaret is a paranoid, vicious misandrist (and a misogynist, interestingly enough. She appears to hate any woman who holds different views for being just as bad). She's shown some intelligence, but it seems as if it's been twisted and warped by hate.
A double-raid on both AROOO and Love-Shy has been proposed on 711chan.
http://www.711chan.org/i/res/6851.html
Post there if you're interested.
P.S: @Skynight: To be honest, I really don't know. They might consider cloning but, from what I've seen, they consider carrying a child to be demeaning to women, and not just because that usually implies that a male has contributed in some way. So I think cloning would be out of the question for them unless some kind of workable artificial womb was developed.
@Elia: Just watch the thread on 711 if you want a play-by-play. 711chan doesn't much like cross-posting of raids like this, so I'm risking a ban just saying this much. So keep quiet about where you learned this.
P.S: Funny thing, I know somebody IRL who uses that same alias :P
@skyknight: I don't know. Maybe they want some kind of bizarre sci-fi utopia where women (I'd say 'people,' but in their fantasy there are no men,) are born from clone tanks and have their every whim catered by robot staff? Even an ant/bee-like thing where males were one-use sperm donors without a semblence of intelligence would be unthinkable for them because men would still exist and -gasp- women would have to carry children.
I'd also suggest a snail-like situation, where each party is mutually impregnated, so there's no imbalance, but they would probably still hate it.
...
After writing that, a simple thought came into my head: biology is weird.
Wait...so am I supposed to like wearing a bra or not? Does wearing stockings make me a misogynist? Am I actually a man without realising it?
Every trans-woman I've met was more of a lady than Margaret will ever be.
This is the sort of psychotic cow who would have called me a "gender traitor" in HS, because I'm a fan of the TV show Airwolf .
(Because in amongst all the other shit Jan Michael Vincent did to fuck up his life/career, there were incidents of domestic violence. Ergo, all Airwolf fans must tacitly approve of domestic violence. Yeah, it didn't make sense to me when I was 15, either.)
I'm near speechless with rage.
Feminism: You're doing it wrong, you stupid separatist IDIOT!
I feel so sorry for any male children these misguided morons may have.
To some extent I find transexualism to be a sign that the male role model (for these people)is to harsh, they need a break, some release. How is that misogynistic? Misandristic, maybe, or whatever the term is.
Goddammit, Margaret. Don't be stupid. Yes, the world on TV sometimes looks like it's out to get all women, and life is scary and rarely fair, but that's life. Your coping mechanisms, they malfunction horribly. And freaking chew your face off. And then you make insane rules, and chew other faces, and damage the credibility of all other feminists. Geaah.
Good god, this makes me sick. Truly, physically sick.
You don't seem to know this:
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