[OP of "[Discussion] SEAmaxxing is overrated, expensive, low quality and takes up a lot of time. What about other "extreme" measures to ascend?"]

Cold approaching is dead.
Online dating was stillborn.

It seems that, if you're white, the only way you can ascend is through going to Asia and fucking some noodlewhore who's desperate for a green card and you seem better than the average ricecel (not cool to cuck ricecels). But that isn't the case.

There are probably dozens of ideas that you've never thought of because, when you can't get what you want with mainstream methods, you have to think outside the box to solutions that have a greater chance of working. I'm talking joining a cult (more of an extreme religion where you can make up some mumbo jumbo that loosely correlates to what a crazy guy wrote to get some girl who also joined to marry you or face damnation, or whatever), entering a mental hospital, homeless people (not betabuxxing, but more of a "you're the first person to care for me; how could I repay you" and then they fall in love with you or something), mental hospitals, going to Alcoholics Anonymous or one of those circle meetings to find someone in a rough patch in life. Things like that is how there's ANY chance to ascend.

You can choose 3 options:

1. LDAR and be a virgin forever. There's nothing inherently wrong with this, and you can be happy if you have copes, but I desire something more out of life;

2. Half heatedly try to do things like "cold approach" and use Tinder, despite them being useless and you know it because you've seen the data yourself. It seems to be like a cope so that you can further reaffirm how over it is. You will not get laid on Tinder nor will you get anything more than a date (if you're fakecel and/or lucky), so why bother with that futile pursuit?

3. Do crazy shit. Step out of society and choose methods that might actually work, because we're not talking about massive sexual marketplaces; we're talking about unconventional shit that can't be quantified like online dating or approaches because they will be highly personal.

It's going to give you something to do and think about and, if you're lucky, you might actually ascend for real, not just a one night stand or whatever. You're probably thinking to yourself, "This seems like a massive scam to make me buy something because you haven't actually told me how to do it." And to that, I say "Eh?" Because I don't know yet either. So help me out.

These are some things I've thought of, just bullet pointed but I can go into detail if you want to talk about it. I'm not going to include SEA because it's already saturated with white guys who are better looking than you, and we want to be thinking properly outside the box, instead of trying to start a rap career with a name starting with "Lil" and expecting to be able to compete; we're going for that African clicking noise genre. Anyways, here are some ideas I can think of off the top of my head:

Alcoholics anonymous or similar meetings (25-40 preferable age range and the ladies will likely be like 20-35)

Cultmaxxing to make your own cult (requirements: must be Ritalincel; nah, but seriously, you have to be able to be very charismatic and preferably not a turbomanlet. Age range for incel would be 28+ I'd say and the girls could be anywhere from 16 (depending on age of consent; obviously don't break the law) to around 25 or so)

Cultmaxxing by leeching on someone else's cult and finding wife, but be careful that a fellow incel hasn't made it into a sex cult where he fucks your wife (doesn't really matter about age tbh, but this is a lot easier but obviously you don't have the power. Just be careful of the leader; he might be a day or something idk so maybe you could arrange not to report him if he made you archbishop or whatever lol)

Helping homeless girl (you gotta have your own house and stuff, preferably be able to fulfill a father like role because she probably had circumstances which led to her never having anyone to be a father) I think I like this one the most because she's not going to become a street whore or anything just to keep affording crack until she's raped and killed eventually; you're actually helping someone so it's the most morally acceptable and you are making a woman who's not a detriment on the system.

Uhhh I'm getting bored but DONT go after those "alternative" girls or whatever, because that's a normie thing and you will have competition. They are high SMV and likely already know that.

Mentalhospitalmaxxing and find some crazy bird

Fight girls' boyfriends and try to hit on them after. You see all those stories man you never know. (Works best if you're young, tall, good fighting success. You can snag teenage girls depending on laws in your area so from around 16-25 where they might just get turned on by it and are drunk and are angry at their boyfriends, but it probably won't be a long term thing ever because, I mean, come on, it's the type of girl to leave her boyfriend for an ugly subhuman because he got beat up)

Anyways, I want to know more ways like this because it might be the only way you can ascend.

Remember, don't do anything illegal because that's not cool! Well, it is, but it's going to maybe get you in prison where people might have ascension methods of their own involving your ass.