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[On the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood mass shooting/hostage taking attack]

Per the FBI definition, abortion clinics and those who run them fits "domestic terrorism" to the tee. Those who work for them are complicit and accomplices to these murdering terrorists. To the tune of 3000 unborn babies per day. Be not deceived, their reservations in Hell have already been confirmed.

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old comment by Tempus

And the tut-tut-tutting has already began, as hatemongering rightwing politicians find their feet after this. Huckabee managed to find time to halfheartedly call it domestic terrorism at least, even while still claiming that rightwing Christians and fetuses are the real victims here, while Ted Cruz just out and out said that the shooter was a transsexual leftist liberal because he apparently checked the box for "female" on a form.

Because everyone knows that if there's one thing deranged, babbling murderous lunatics are well-known for in this country, it's clerical precision.

And I'm sure that the rest of the rightwing pols and their media lackeys at Faux Noise will be sure to weigh in in the coming days, and their opinions and commentary will be every bit as enlightening and insightful as we've all come to expect.

Meanwhile the blabbering subnormal horde of Freeper-level dingbat clods that make up the GOP's base can't make up their minds if Dear was a bank robber, a deep-cover liberal, or if the whole thing was a false-flag operation by Planned Parenthood for some reason, and are simultaneously screaming that they're the real victims while cheering for the shooter.

These assholes helped create the guy, and the next dozen like him. Mark my words and mark them well. This is going to happen again and again, and gutless, nutless dipshits like this clownshoe will make sure that they can find all the tools and information to do the job easily and egg them on and cheer when their pet maniacs do what they don't have the courage and conviction to do themselves. It's like the 90's, back when the Army of God types were effectively running the antiabortion movement. Everything old is new again.

old comment by DJ Fuckknuckle & The Outlaws of Word Processing

You know, this is actually consistent. It's shitty and horrifying, but perfectly logically consistent.

I'm almost impressed.
Seriously.

If you actually legitimately believe that a fetus is a full human being, and that legalised abortion is actually for-realzies mass murder, then by that metric, then you pretty much have to see the United States--along with most of the rest of western civilization at this point, at least the parts of it that recognize a woman's right to personal autonomy and access to health care--as a bloodbath that would make the Nazi party and the Aztecs both sit up and start taking notes.

And again, solely by that metric, nearly anything can be justified--terrorist attacks, clinic bombings, even assassination of doctors who perform the procedure, clinic escorts and pro-abortion politicians. Normal people wouldn't condemn the guy who bombs a bar the Auschwitz officers hung out at after-hours, or who tried to snipe the guards in the camp guard tower, after all, just like they wouldn' t sit around mumbling into their beards about how the Germans had the right to choose to gas Jews and undesirables and how we should respect their choice but try to discourage them and show them alternatives to the gas chambers.
In fact, if you're NOT doing everything in your power to stop it or at least slow it down by any and all means at your disposal or aid those who are, you're effectively complicit in it.

So yeah, I almost respect this asshole, because at least his position isn't based solely on punishing women for daring to have sex. It's logically consistent and coherent even if he's based his entire worldview on information that's entirely wrong at best, and completely buttfuck insane at worst. I have more respect for this asshole than I do for the clowns who talk out of both sides of their mouths and mouth country-fried platitudes about love and life while trying to cut access to health care and allow companies to exclude contraception from their insurance based solely on ideological grounds.

Mind you, it's the same "respect" I would give an enraged rabid baboon, or an unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic with a loaded rifle who legitimately believes that putting a bullet into my head will stop the transmitter that's beaming the angry screaming voices into his own nonstop, and for the exact same reason. He literally does not live in the same world I do. And neither does Watchman here, or his hero Dear.

old comment by Swede

Nope, abortion is legal, and no-one is forced to have one.

In what way do abortion clinics instill fear in the public? It's fairly easy; if you don't like abortions, don't have one.
Quite a few abortion clinic picketers have sneaked in to have an abortion and then been back on the protest line again. “The only moral abortion is MY abortion", or something.

Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
¦Involve acts dangerous to human life that violate federal or state law;
¦Appear intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination. or kidnapping; and
¦Occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S.

I’d say abortion clinic picketers and bombers fit much better than abortion clinics do.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

Whenever there has been a vote of any kind on abortion in Britain's Parliament - including the last one several years ago - it's always been a Free Vote, where the party whips have no involvement, and the MPs can vote as per their consciences.

Like I say: the last one - on decreasing the time on abortions - several years ago, also included a vote on a ban on Stem Cell research.

That time, the vote was massively against both. One of those who voted against such was the then Leader of the Opposition, David Cameron. Even as Prime Minister, he struck a deal with the then Labour leader Ed Miliband on he & his party voting with his Conservative Party on legalising S-SM.

Homosexuality was legalised in 1967. The same time as Abortion in the UK.

All those Free Votes in Parliament concerning abortion. Every single time the vote has gone against altering the post-1967 legislation.

Six years before Roe vs. Wade in the US.

Last time I heard, opposition to abortion was purely Catholic doctrine is it not, o Protestant fundies in the US? I also heard that, not long after Roe vs. Wade, mainstream Protestant Christianity in the US had no problem with abortion.

In Northern Ireland of all places, their previously anti-abortion policy has suddenly been deemed anti-human rights yesterday.

Not seeing even the IRA there shooting so much as one person even remotely involved in the lobbying against said policy at Stormont. IRA: Catholic.

Not seeing you campaigning against the method of all those retroactive abortions at US schools since 1764: the 2nd Amendment giving loonies the right to own automatic weapons.

A case of 'Save the Unborn Child!', but once outside the womb, 'You're on your own, kid!'.

No school shootings in the UK before Dunblane. None since.

The Church of England clergy in the House of Lords were among those in Parliament unanimous in their decision to ban guns in the UK after that terrorist act in 1996, so I'm afraid you have some explaining to do, NeoMatrix. Question:

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Are All Muslims terrorists? Yes or No? I refer you to the Muslim countries of Jordan, Kosovo, and Azerbaijan.

If your answer is the only one possible, then you can explain why my best friend - a long-time Church of England Christian - is like me, someone who doesn't have so much as a criminal record for spitting on the pavement.

The Quakers & Unitarian Universalists: are they terrorists? Yes or No?

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