(From a radio transcript)
If you read the rules God gave to have a perfect society, they are phenomenal. [...] Whenever somebody commits the following crimes they are to be executed, publicly. And whoever is the offended party gets to throw the first stone [...] There is just the relief when you get to throw the rock at the person who offended you, or harmed you, or raped you, or stole from you, or something. I think Man is designed to need that satisfaction, that relief of taking vengeance. I think that is way God - I think that is the way human nature is.
--Truth Radio 9 August 2006 @ 12:20 (Tape 2)
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To the bronze-age Arab sheepherders who wrote the Bible, revenge was an important aspect of justice (and seems still to be in that part of the world, given what's happening in Iraq). But 21st century Western culture has gone beyond that. You'd think, if God actually wrote the Bible, His moral maturity would have been more advanced than the people of 2nd millennium BC.
flipper wrote:
"You really want that Kent? What penalty would God suggest for lying in court after swearing to tell the truth "so help me God" on his Bible?" But he WAS telling the truth!
He really, really believed that when the Federal tax statutes said "You have to pay income tax", they meant "You don't have to pay income tax."
As commanded by the Torah, the village gathered to proceed with the stoning.
And Jesus said again, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
Suddenly, an old woman stepped from the crowd, hurled a stone that struck the adulteress in the forehead, killing her instantly.
Jesus shook his head and said, "You know Ma, some times you are a real pain in the ass."
Old Joke.
Y'know, Kent, Mosaic law is still prevalant in some areas. It's just that it's called Syariah law (the most fundementalist branch) and its still enforced in Middle eastern tribes.
Why don't you go there if you like it so much?
As someone who saw fit to defy the clear instructions of his Saviour by refusing to "render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's", presumably "Dr" Hovind will be turning himself in for a good ol' fashioned lynchin' on the very day of his release from prison?
No... I don't think so, either.
God could only come up with revenge. It took human beings to invent justice.
You know, that's almost enough to make me an optimist.
It's funny. What should people who are accused of killing?, because, you know, dead people can't do it. And what happens to people whose damage has been provoked by nature?, can we stone wind, sun or rain?
"you get to throw the rock at the person who offended you, or harmed you, or raped you, or stole from you , or something."
You know what they say about people in glass houses, Kent...
Ah, gotcha. So, forget a fair justice system, dispensing justice in accordance of the crime...just go out and hurt someone that may or may not have actually done it. No fair trial, no due process, just bury him up to his neck, rally the townsfolk, and bludgeon him to death.
And I don't suppose tax evasion is among the list of things he feels should be punishable by death, is it?
ah, yes... the good old days. Personally, i find the idea of a baying mob executing someone who offended is rather wonderful, soothing, and in no way horrific and repellent.
Can I throw rocks at people who say stupid things? Or who are just plain ignorant?
"It's funny. What should people who are accused of killing?, because, you know, dead people can't do it. And what happens to people whose damage has been provoked by nature?, can we stone wind, sun or rain?"
I think the ancient Greeks or Romans once whipped the ocean for being too stormy, so why not?
The difference between you lunatics and most of us rational people though, Kentie, is we would have the opportunity to throw that first stone, and choose not to.
What do you think of that?
Rape victims don't get to stone their rapist. They're stoned instead, and he gets to throw the first stone.
Kind of fucks up your whole "reasoning", doesn't it?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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