(In response to a Daily Mail Report on Charles Darwin.) Rubbish, Darwin recanted on his deathbed, he believed in God and knew we didn't come from monkeys, if we did, why haven't the monkeys in zoos turned into men?
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For some reason, I imagine this guy to be a large man with a permanently furious brow and mutton chops the size of his hands.
And he's getting crumbs of spotted dick all over his sweater.
Your Bible says that lying is against God's Law, so you're going to burn in hell for all eternity, Alison.
Still feeling smug now , sweetheart?
Ok, but even if he did, so what? Since we are talking science here, that doesn't make evolution any less true...
> Darwin recanted on his deathbed, he believed in God and knew we didn't come from monkeys,
Assuming that was true, what proof did he offer for that extraordinary claim?
It all comes down to the proof, not some personal testimonies from the discoverers. Why? For millennia, people have been finding out about things they personally have regrets about later.
British fundies are as ignorant as American fundies?
Unfortunately, yes. Fortunately, we have far fewer of them than America (at the moment anyway), and they tend to be laughed at rather than listened to.
Actually, she's right about one thing: Darwin knew we didn't come from monkeys.
We come from APES not monkeys, or, even more accuarately if she'd be able for this subtlty: humans and apes both come from a common ancestor. (Okay, even further back, humans, apes and monkeys have a common ancestor.)
'why haven't the monkeys in zoos turned into men?'
For complicated reasons that would melt your little brain, but you however are living proof that it works the other way round....
Rubbish, Darwin recanted on his deathbed...
Incorrect. Darwin's daughter was present at his death bed and has made definitive statements denying any such statement was made. The woman who started this lie, according to Darwin's daughter, was not even present when Darwin allegedly recanted his position on evolution.
1 - He never recanted. 2 - not that it would matter if he DID, this is a science not a religion, the study and facts, not the proponants of the same, are what count and 3 - the monkeys in the zoos are a completely different branch of the evolutionary tree and this very simple errror will keep reoccuring if you never READ A TEXTBOOK (ahem).
Darwin never believed in God nor did he say his own theories were wrong.
And evolution doesn't work that way, why haven't I've grown people in my front lawn from the dirt?
As far as I know, Darwin never rejected Christianity (but then again Anglicans aren't REAL CHRISTIANS), and your right, he did know we didn't come from monkeys. So there was nothing for him to recant.
Hey Alison from Sevenoaks,
Did you know that Jesus repented on the cross? According to some of those Dead Sea scroll things they found at the Mediterranian Ocean, after hanging on the cross for a few hours, Jesus admitted to the Roman authorites that he and his friends made the whole story up to get free wine and mack on the ladies of the area. Being the sorts that appreciated a good con job, the Romans cut him loose and sent him packing after three days of recuperation. His drinking buddies...ahem..."disciples" suddenly found themselves out of work and decided to up the ante on the scam. You know the rest of the story.
Hope that straightened things out.
Cthulhu fhtagn,
Bill
Rubbish, Darwin recanted on his deathbed, he believed in God and knew we didn't come from monkeys,
Thou shalt not bear false witness, doofus.
if we did, why haven't the monkeys in zoos turned into men?
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Rubbish, Darwin recanted on his deathbed
You guys still spreading this lie? Darwins' own daughter debunked this claim. Spreading or repeat a lie doesn't make it true.
And Evolution doesn't say humans come from monkeys, it states that apes and humans have common ancestor. Got it yet?
"why haven't the monkeys in zoos turned into men?"
1. They are not allowed to freely interbreed (sometimes not even within their own exhibit, let alone in numbers large enough to be considered a population: the girls get birth control or the males and females are kept separately)
2. They are under ABSOLUTELY NO selective pressure since they are handed their food and they see the vet whenever they need it
3. individuals cannot evolve
4. evolution is a directionless, unthinking PROCESS and doesn't have a goal
Darwin didn't recant on his deathbed. His own children were there at his death and all of them denyed this.
Charles's daughter Henrietta (Litchfield) wrote on page 12 of the London evangelical weekly, The Christian, for 23 February 1922, 'I was present at his deathbed. Lady Hope was not present during his last illness, or any illness. I believe he never even saw her, but in any case she had no influence over him in any department of thought or belief. He never recanted any of his scientific views, either then or earlier
. The whole story has no foundation whatever'
http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/689
why haven't the monkeys in zoos turned into men?
Why haven't the ribs in the grocery store turned into women?
Rubbish, Darwin recanted on his deathbed
Yes, he said: "It's better when one of them dies when one of us"
1. Lady Hope is a blatant liar, and her recant story has been debunked by even popular Creationists, like Answers in Genesis.
2. Darwin was a Christian (Although I don't know if you consider Angelicans "True Christians"), but he certainly considered his own evolutionary theory valid. And even if he didn't, that's not a strike against it.
3. A blatant strawman of evolution. OPEN A TEXTBOOK, OR EVEN A SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN. PLEASE. THE GENE POOL BEGS OF YOU.
Even if Darwin did recant on his deathbed (which he didn't), it still wouldn't prove the theory of evolution wrong, because there is plenty of actual scientific evidence for it.
Also, evolution doesn't fucking work that way.
No, yes, yes, no, why should they?
If, indeed we did come from monkeys, the monkeys in zoos have 2 million years ahead of them, in which to "turn into men".
Meh, a Daily Mail reader. Will probably end her days in a university.
In a glass jar, on a shelf, pickled in Formaldehyde
"Rubbish, Darwin recanted on his deathbed, he believed in God and knew we didn't come from monkeys"
[citation Seriously Fucking needed]
Fact: Darwin - from his discoveries to his death was an Agnostic. Prove me wrong .
"if we did, why haven't the monkeys in zoos turned into men?"
And if we - according to Genesis - came from dirt, why hasn't all the dirt around us turned into men? Annihilated argument, much? Oh, and re. Darwin dying an Agnostic ; if he was ...:
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...why was he buried & memorialised in Westminster Abbey? And even if [/Spartan Laconic Wit] he 'recanted on his deathbed' and 'knew we didn't come from monkeys', why did the Church of England not only embrace Evolution with open arms, but consider him - even if he'd 'recanted' - important enough to be one of only five non-royalty people buried in their main place of worship?
Moral: This is from a paper referred to in my country as "The Daily FAIL", and now you know why . Nothing to see here, folks...!
“Rubbish,”
Wrong.
“Darwin recanted on his deathbed,”
WRonger.
“he believed in God”
Very probably. It’s not mutually antagonistic to accepting the ToE. So, not wrong, but does not support your conclusion.
“and knew we didn't come from monkeys,”
WRonger YET AGAIN.
"if we did, why haven't the monkeys in zoos turned into men?”
That’s not the way evolution does anything.
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