JustThinkAboutIt #fundie

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This is simple. To believe in evolution without any supernatural power involved you have to believe in everything coming from nothing. And after you have been able to answer that first question which is impossible as EVERYTHING that is actually OBSERVED in this world is made from something. Then you have to ask after life came from nothingness from the matter that came from nothing how it survived a huge explosion making the universe. Not to mention that then randomly 80% or more of the world suddenly has an urge to believe in something they cant see or contact with (according to you that its not there). There should be no urge for that. There should be no wright and wrong. There should be no punishment. There should be no laws. There should be no fear of anything.

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old comment by Canadiest

OK, First: The Big Bang has NEVER been described as a product of NOTHING, except by the fundy misinformation circuit, it's always been EVERYTHING.

I've wanted to hit this "explosions cause nothing but chaos and destruction" shit they keep spouting for years. Your car engine runs on controlled explosions, we mine many materials using explosions, rednecks unblock beaver dams with explosions.

Explosions rearrange shit, that's the Big Bang scenario, planets and sun systems formed after it was scattered and pulled into different shapes by the laws of Physics.

And laws are a product of society, this is proven by the fact cultures who never were influence by the Bible or Torah still have the same root laws.

old comment by Swede

No, we just have to observe that life seems organized into branches, where the lifeforms out on the tiny limbs are similar to the other on the same main branch and seem to have a common ancestor.

Everything coming from nothing; that's Bible nonsense.

What is God made of? Sure, I can't OBSERVE him, but you people assert that he exists.

Weren't you talking about EVOLUTION? Why do you spiral off into the COMPLETELY different subject of Cosmology?

In prehistoric times, people didn't understand their surroundings and they didn't know the laws of physics. In order to form some kind of explanation and pattern, they invented deities and spirits. As we have discovered the laws of physics, and scientific explanations for our world, more and more of the need for theses spirits and deities have disappeared, and nowadays we don't need them at all. Some people still cling onto them as comfort blankets, though.

Fear is a survival instinct; without it we would have died out two million years ago, at least. Without rules we would also have died out millions of years ago; every social animal has rules within the community.

Wright and wrong? Are you into history of aviation, or what?

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"To believe in evolution without any supernatural power involved you have to believe in everything coming from nothing."

PROTIP: Photons are the only particles that travel at the speed of light that have zero mass.

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Thank you for admitting that DC Comics will have to replace The Flash - as the above proves he's obsolete - with "MLP:FiM"'s Rainbow Dash; the fact she's a fictional character not being so much as the least of your problems - or that of DC Comics, for that matter.

No, it's simply this: Like I say: Photons are the only particles of matter that travel at the speed of light which have zero mass. And when something that doesn't even physically exist can be seen by everyone in the vicinity of a sunny day post-rain shower, then the fact this alone completely annihilates the very concept of the 'Spiritual'/'Supernatural' is the least of your problems, then...!

...and that's before I mention that the 'Supernatural' = Evolution being the worst non-sequitur imaginable. For when something with zero mass, and thus theoretically doesn't exist - i.e. is nothing - yet can be seen, then II...!

Moral: Rainbows destroy the 'Supernatural'. And when even a concept doesn't exist, then III...!, and you - and your Materialism = no morals non-sequitur - have struck out. After all...:

...when an [i]ex[/i]-long time Christian can basically say - as per we Atheists - 'I can be a good and decent person to my fellow human beings, because I [i]can[/i]', then at least said rainbow - unlike your argument (& therefore your 'God') as a whole - exists. It can be seen.

Your call, re. your 'God' equally, JustThinkAboutThat

old comment by Neith

@Dr. Razark

"Read the question again. It's dumber than you think."

Ack! You're right! I read it like that at first, then thought they just worded it weird, but damn! So it sounds like this person believes the theory states that matter came from nothing, then life came from the matter, then the Big Bang happened, then the universe formed. So was this life supposedly floating out in space before the stars and planets formed? They probably believe it was monkeys in space, at that. o.O

Fundies, listen up! The actual theory states that all the matter and energy always existed, and was all scrunched up together until something made it all expand. This is what we call the Big Bang. Imagine a tiny bomb causing a huge explosion, sending particles in every direction. Now, mass attracts mass, just like magnets attract each other, so imagine all these magnetic particles floating in space, attracting each other, then attracting more, etc., until there are so many particles that they become the size of planets. This isn't exactly how it works, and I'm leaving out a bunch of stuff, but I'm trying to keep this as simplistic as possible.

Several billions of years after the Big Bang, sometime after our galaxy and our solar system formed, something happened and a single-called organism formed. This is abiogenesis. Maybe it happened on earth. Maybe it happened on an asteroid that later hit earth. We don't know and that's ok. We also don't know how many times this might have happened before one reproduced, but they eventually did.

None of the above has anything at all to do with evolution.

Once the first life form became fruitful and started multiplying, that's when evolution finally started.

“This is simple. To believe in evolution without any supernatural power involved you have to believe in everything coming from nothing.”
Except you don’t. That’s nothing to do with evolution.

“And after you have been able to answer that first question which is impossible as EVERYTHING that is actually OBSERVED in this world is made from something.”
You have evidence about things in the world. Does that apply to the creation of the universe, though? And that’s not evolution.

“Then you have to ask after life came from nothingness from the matter that came from nothing how it survived a huge explosion making the universe.”
You see the Big Bang as a cornocopia, spinning out the universe as we see it. And still not Evolution.

"Not to mention that then randomly 80% or more of the world suddenly has an urge to believe in something they cant see or contact with (according to you that its not there). There should be no urge for that.”
We evolved to assign agency for some reason. It’s why we yell at the car and the lawnmower to work. Not sure why, but we do that.

"There should be no wright and wrong.”
Fucking wrong. We couldn’t develop as cvilizations without some morals. Cultures that developed these ideas advanced a lot more than those that didn’t.

“There should be no punishment.”
You really should talk to a beta reader about these fanfics.

"There should be no laws. There should be no fear of anything.”
Just a string of baseless ad hom offered as an argument.

JustThinkAboutIt

Providing another example of this (from http://www.creationtheory.org/Essays/Phrases.xhtml)

EVOLUTION

Normal Person's Definition: “Biologically speaking, there are 2 forms: the process of evolution (a fact) and the theory of evolution (to explain the fact).

1) The process of evolution is the observed process of heritable change between generations in a population of living organisms. Not to be confused with metamorphosis.

2) The Theory of Evolution is Darwin's explanation for how the process of evolution works. One of the ramifications of this theory is that it can be used to explain
the origin of species.”

Fundie Definition: “The idea that man came from apes. It is based on the idea that everything in the universe came from nothing for no reason, that bacteria sprang spontaneously from mud and every species on Earth appeared as a result of some freak mutation.”

Note: sadly, this is not a caricature or an exaggeration; most fundamentalists seriously believe that the above statement is a reasonably accurate summary of evolution theory.

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