Personally I don't care how close the KJV of 1611 is to the actual Greek. The point is that those Godly men who compiled it were inspired by the Holy Spirit to do so in the way that they did. Indeed, Scripture itself prophecies that, in the years to come, a king will translate scripture perfectly (Ecclesiastes 8:4).
No other version will do, and I have a friend in the US who burns NIVs (many Christians believe the NIV is demon-inspired).
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Indeed, Scripture itself prophecies that, in the years to come, a king will translate scripture perfectly (Ecclesiastes 8:4).
And of course we know that the king didn't add that little bit himself because scripture itself said it'd be a perfect translation, right?
Of course you don't care whether the KJV is an accurate translation. You wouldn't be a true fundie if you worried about such petty things as knowing what the original text that you worship as the word of God actually said. And, holy crap, you sure are banking on a lot of precisely aimed "divine inspiration" going on during the Bible's creation, aren't you?
"Scripture itself prophecies that, in the years to come, a king will translate scripture perfectly"
Maybe then people will beleive in everything you say. But until it happens...
So, the book that the king translated contains a passage that claims his translation is perfect?
You don't see a problem with this?
Ecclesiastes 8:4:
"Where the word of a king [is, there is] power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?"
Really? This is supposed to be a prophecy stating that a king will translate scripture perfectly? Even if it said anything remotely like that, how do you know the king referenced is king james? What if its a king who hasn't even lived yet... King Bert of Jesusland perhaps...
Surely this passage is a comment on people (such as kings) having so much power they are beyond question by anyone else, no one has the power to say "what doest thou?" to the King, or its "off with thy head".
"Where the word of a king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What doest thou?" (Ecclesiastes 8:4).
What? Do you even check the verses yourself, or are you just blindly parroting what your pastor tells you?
"The point is that those Godly men who compiled it were inspired by the Holy Spirit to do so in the way that they did."
Or, more truthfully, ordered to do so by the King to replace the Bishop's Bible.
"many Christians believe the NIV is demon-inspired"
By 'many' you mean 'hardly any'.
It's well known amogst theologians that the KJV is one of the worst translations (although the language used is very nice) and that the NIV is one of the best.
Make your fucking mind up.
If the KJV is the true version, then God kinda went the long way around doncha think? Had to get the the Jews and Greeks to write stuff down but that wasn't right - it took 1611 years before the correct version came along. Verrry inefficient methinks. And what about the poor saps believing the wrong, pre-KJV, version? Mean trick of God to play on them.
"Many Christians believe the NIV is demon-inspired"
Now even scripture can be fucking demon inspired!
So your bible lies when it says: 'All scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work' 2 Timothy 2:22
Bloody dodgy, that demons find it so easy to hijack the Word of God. And to do it so well, hell, when I did time as a fundie, back in the late '80s and early '90s, the NIV was considered to be the best translation of the Bible, epecially the Greek NT! Who knew I was actually memorising demonic text - must be why I became an atheist ;)
The original greek was wrong so the godly translators mistranslated the errors out of it.
"No other version will do, and I have a friend in the US who burns NIVs (many Christians believe the NIV is demon-inspired). "
Someone should print a koran on asbestos and bring it to one of those book burning events. Or even better, a necronomicon.
I have a friend in the US who burns NIVs
At least when I escaped your death-cult, I had the decency to recycle...
8:4 - Since a king's word is supreme, who can say to him, "What are you doing?"
I figure we should at least give him the NIV version of the same verse. (Naturally, it doesn't say what he thinks it says - BURN IT!!!!11111)
Doesn't this sort of fly in the face of the idea that the original books of the Bible were written down by the apostles themselves?
And which KJV? There's more than one, you know.
There was an interesting programme on the bible on the radio.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/theoldestbible/
Unfortunately the programme does not appear to be in the archive to listen to again.
When I can find the money to buy a new Bible (and, honestly, it's way down on my list of priorities, somewhere after a new MacBook, a DJ console, an HD camcorder, at least half a dozen cookbooks, and a new job), it will be NRSV + Apocrypha. If I need to look something up on the net, it'll be from the NET or the SAB; if I need to look something up in meatspace it'll be from the New American Bible (I grew up Catholic). If I need to know an evangelical interpretation, the NIV Study Bible isn't that expensive in paperback.
I do not own a KJV. I do not want a KJV. I do not need a KJV.
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