This country was founded as a Christian nation. And do you know what the Constitution of the United States, when it was signed, Sheila, when George Washington signed it, he said these words: 'in the year of our Lord 1787,' Now that's what our Constitution said.... This is the only country, ladies and gentlemen, whose constitution specifically refers to Jesus Christ. We were a nation founded with faith in Jesus, and all of those people at the Constitutional Convention celebrated a mass for Christ.
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Wrong. Totally and completely wrong. The Constitution does not mention jesus christ at all. The "year of our lord" is the way we count our years, so that doesn't really count. Not all of the founding fathers were christians. Some were atheists, some agnostics, some deists. Of course, this is Pat Robertson, who's one of the leaders of the loser squad. There was no mass celebrated, either, and that should really offend all these protestants anyway, who think the catholic churh is evil. So much fail, so little time.
"This country was founded as a Christian nation."
Oh sweet, now I can say it.....Treaty of Tripoli! Oh how I enjoy bursting fundies' bubbles!
"when George Washington signed it, he said these words: 'in the year of our Lord 1787,'"
Um, didn't EVERYONE use that phrase back then, "the year of our Lord"? Like using B.C. and A.D.? That is until we started using B.C.E. and C.E.
"This is the only country, ladies and gentlemen, whose constitution specifically refers to Jesus Christ."
Oh, Pat, Pat, Pat....Where in that entire fucking document does it mention Jesus H. Christ in there?!
"We were a nation founded with faith in Jesus, and all of those people at the Constitutional Convention celebrated a mass for Christ."
Many of the founding fathers were Deists, first of all. Secondly, they were pretty much all secularists, so even if there were some Christians in the mix (which there most certainly were), they favored a separation of Church and State because they KNEW what kind of evil can be perpetrated when those to forces join together. England had no such separation, and the last thing we wanted was to be like England (hence no monarch...and some founding fathers even contemplated creating an official language that wasn't English, just to spite the King...).
Pat, you've obviously never read the Constitution. This is the exact same error that exposed Ron Paul as a fraud last year. He was claiming to be a "Constitutionalist," then talked about supposed references to the Christian god which weren't there. Actually, Pat, I doubt you've ever read anything.
I'm sure Christ would have supported the "Life, Liberty, and pursuit of Happiness" thing, but the bible itself says fuck-all concerning those important American precepts.
You fail, you extortionist beggar...btw...How much do you charge for a first-class ticket to Heaven these days?
Treaty of Tripoli, bitch!
(DevilsChaplain beat me to it, but I gotta say it.)
@The L
Yes please, I would like a nice nice slice of
Magna Carta. Wouldn't anyone who knows what it is?
...And, as we all should know, the word Lord does not
imply Jesus.
What about Jewish folks who use that term?
There are some Islamic groups who use the word 'Lord'.
Has anyone ever talked to an American Indian about the meaning of the term Lord? Oh, don't get me started but thank
you for listening.
This country was founded as a Christian nation.
This is your opinion, Pat. The 1st Ammendment disagrees with you:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
So here's how it works: the government won't tell you to join the Church of England if you'll stay out of governmental affairs. Easy, eh?!
"The year of the our Lord" was purely a convention used when writing calendar dates. It has no religious significance. No, we were not founded as a Christian nation. The founders went to great lengths to create a secular society. And there is no mention of Jesus or God in the Constitution. None whatsoever. You could have had someone read it to you.
This is the only country, ladies and gentlemen, whose constitution specifically refers to Jesus Christ.
The Constitution does not mention Jesus Christ, either directly or indirectly. Why are you lying, Pat? Are the sales for your "super shake" slumping? Maybe lifting a full ton with your legs is taking a toll on your brain.
This is the only country, ladies and gentlemen, whose constitution specifically refers to Jesus Christ.
The Magna Carta not only mentions God repeatedly, but mentions the Anglican Church specifically: "In the first place we grant to God and confirm by this our present charter for ourselves and our heirs in perpetuity that the English Church is to be free and to have all its rights fully and its liberties entirely."
I have been known to use the same term. It's a conventions that has a nice orotund sound about it, and provides a verbal equivalent of a written flourish. It means no more than that. Nor did it when Washington signed it.
BTW, the first sentence of the quote that's posted is lacking in gramman and sense. Are you listening Robertson? Go to the bottom of the class.
[This country was founded as a Christian nation.]
For the last fucking time: no, no, no, no, no, it fucking wasn't.
[And do you know what the Constitution of the United States, when it was signed, Sheila, when George Washington signed it, he said these words: 'in the year of our Lord 1787,']
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini
Separation of church and state? Treaty of tripoli?
[Now that's what our Constitution said.... This is the only country, ladies and gentlemen, whose constitution specifically refers to Jesus Christ.]
Wrong again. See above.
This country was founded as a Christian nation.
I think you are confusing the founding fathers with the pilgrims.
when George Washington signed it, he said these words: 'in the year of our Lord 1787
Actually, "in the year of our lord" is popular way of counting years.
This is the only country, ladies and gentlemen, whose constitution specifically refers to Jesus Christ.
Jesus was never mentioned in the bible. If your refering to "the year of our lord" lord could have ment anybody(but it really dosent).
We were a nation founded with faith in Jesus, and all of those people at the Constitutional Convention celebrated a mass for Christ.
Treaty of Triopoly disagrees.
See, if the Constitution mentioned Jeebus H. Christ in the context of policy -- y'know, something along the lines of "the government of the United States will enact Mosaic laws from the Bible" -- then Marion "Pat" Robertson might have a point about the government being "Christian." But seeing as to how all that is mentioned about Jeebus H. Christ is a date, doesn't take a genius to figure out you can't really make the case the government is "Christian" in the sense of adopting Christian mores as laws, especially with that glaring First Amendment in there.
Ah, well. Patty boy is far far below "doesn't take a genius" status anyway.
"when George Washington signed it, he said these words: 'in the year of our Lord 1787,' Now that's what our Constitution said...."
You like quote-mining, Pat? So do I:
'The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion'
-George Washington
You know what the 9th Commandment says, don't you Pat?
9: Thou shalt not bear false witness.
To paraphrase Hudson in "Aliens":
"You're on an express elevator to Hell: GOING DOWN!"
Four words that could save your life, Pat: Treaty of Tripoli, bitch.
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