The primary contribution any woman can make for science is to stay completely out of it. No matter how good she is, no matter how smart she is, she cannot possibly compensate for the complete devastation and distraction she is going to leave in her wake over the course of her career among the socially and sexually hapless gammas who might have otherwise happily spent decades slaving away in the laboratories.
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As usual, the zealots cannot imagine that there may be people who genuinely, sincerely disagree with them. The only concievable position is that everybody secretly knows that they are right and are only disagreeing with them out of sheer spite.
So you failed to get your degree despite being an zoopainntelijans because your attention was firmly directed at the boobs of your fellow students?
Please ask Pierre Curie how women of science lead to nothing but sexual frustration.
Oh really...... I think the following may want a word
Mary Leaky-paleontologist/paleoanthropologist
Shall I continue Vox
Women play a vital role in science. How DARE you denigrate my colleagues who work tirelessly to forward scientific knowledge.
>hedgehog:
I used to joke that about that with my wife when she was in the lab that the guys would be too distracted by her to get any work done. The difference is she knows I was joking and that people usually focused on work rather than hitting on their colleagues.
hedgehog
The primary contribution you can make for society, VD, is to post gibberish on the Net so that we can laugh at your stupidity. Well done, boy-o, keep up the good work!
Sure, Madame Curie left quite a bit of devastation and distraction in her wake, what with her notebooks allegedly still being too irradiated to be handled safely without proper protection. And, she had the audacity to being the only person to get Nobel Prizes in two different fields.
Why can't the gammas happily slave away in the laboratories anyway? Whether the one in charge is a man or a woman doesn't matter one bit, unless the gammas are misogynistic pricks. Then the problem lies with them, and not with the woman in charge.
"the socially and sexually hapless gammas"attracted to geeks - especially given that she went into a nerdy profession?
"who might have otherwise happily spent decades slaving away in the laboratories."
>Swede:
Just think, VD, without the contribution of a female Nobel laureate to medical science, you may never have been able to protect yourself against HIV.
@ hedgehog
Margaret Thatcher is Britain's seventh longest serving prime minister, though she was the longest serving of the twentieth century.
"The primary contribution any woman can make for science is to stay completely out of it."
Do you use Wi-Fi, VD? Bluetooth?
You have Hedy Lamarr - a woman - to thank for that.
Also, Ada Lovelace. NEXT!
>>Vox the reason you could never get a girl is because you're a piece of shit.
He is married. That said, I am SO curious about what kind of person she is/what kind of relationship they have. I bet she's either (a) submissive due to years of domineering behavior from him (or abuse earlier in her life) or (b) his online bluster of a personality is a sham, and at home he treats her like an equal human being.
distraction she is going to leave in her wake
I wonder if Vox is referring to the Tim Hunt #distractinglysexy case from a while back where he said: let me tell you about my trouble with girls. Three things happen when they are in the lab: You fall in love with them, they fall in love with you, and when you criticize them they cry .
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I'm from the generation directly after Hunt. Way back, women in certain careers were still unusual for many my age, but things changed very quickly. As it stands, I don't even take notice anymore of which gender the people I work with are. I really couldn't care less.
Said the failed scifi writer.
And the editor you used to write this? Thank Grace Hopper, among several, for inventing the first compilers.
@ Anon-e-moose
THAT'S HEDLEY!
More horseshit from Vox, I see.
...and the world, it keeps on turning.
So the world revolves around males? No matter how important a woman's contribution may be, it's more important that some male have a better slot?
That male will get the slot he merits. If he's third rate, that laboratory is most likely his niche for the moment. If he's able, he'll move his way up the ladder. That's the way things work for everyone. That third rate male needs to recognize where his skills best fit instead of being upset that someone beat him out for a university slot or job.
If someone puts in for a promotion and loses, what is the healthiest response? To accept the decision (and either adjust or find greener pastures) or moan and complain about unfairness? Everyone loses out on opportunities in life. Sometimes it's 100% clear and fair, far more often it's not - either due to more subjective issues or one of those times in life where life isn't fair.
And how does sex come into it? I don't think there's a difference in romantic success between those in second and third rate careers. I'd be much happier with a man who was emotionally healthy and dealt well with life's "slings and arrows" and had a third rate position than one who spent his time grousing that he didn't get a second rate slot because a woman did.
Imagine Vox Day's mind being blown when he finds out not only are they inventors, but retired rear admirals as well.
Rear Admiral Grace Hopper
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She's was one of the pioneers in computer programming back in the 1940s.
Do you speak from experience, Vox Gamma? FACT: there are men that are afraid of women. FACT: there is no reason to suppose that such men are more common in a research laboratory than working warehouse inventory control, or issuing drivers' licenses at the BMV, or running for political office. Women belong wherever their talents and training lead them, and yes, in the science lab.
True story; I began working in a research lab as one of four women among 200 men. As time went on the company hired the best people they could find for the jobs, and as a result, twenty years later the numbers of male and female chemists were nearly equal, with slightly more females. Now should my company have been inconvenienced and handicapped in their search for qualified employees, and stuck to men, just to accommodate and foster the fears of a small handful of terrified introverts?
hapless gammas? All those women (and men) who blush over Dr Brian Cox might disagree.
also, Nobel laureate Dr Elizabeth Blackburn!
Isn't it a riot how it's misogynists who have some of the lowest opinions of men's ability to exert focus, self-control, and objectivity in any given situation? They seriously think men would be oblivious to an ongoing shootout if women were around.
And here it is! Bigots know that the groups they hate can be just as good, just, talented, etc. as the bigot's demographic is....
....they just want to dominate for fun.
Hey, V.D! If she's just as smart and talented at science, then she should do science! Common sense.
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