In regards to a quiz about religious liberty
Corrections to this article Part I
A) I can’t really be married to a same sex person, for the same reason that I can’t flap my arms and fly. Nature makes some things have certain functions, and calls them birds. They are different than humans. No amount of saying you are a bird will make you one. Nature makes male and female animals function in certain ways. Those ways don’t work right unless one animal is female and one is male. No amount of saying that 2 animals of the same gender are the same as a male and female pair will make it so, even if the government says it is so. Governments can’t make 2 + 2 = 5 by saying so.
B). It is not about a religious belief. It is a fact of life like the birds and the bees. That’s just the way it works. Make up a new name for your clearly different thing, and we can all get along.
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"I can’t really be married to a same sex person, for the same reason that I can’t flap my arms and fly. Nature makes some things have certain functions, and calls them birds. They are different than humans. No amount of saying you are a bird will make you one."
And guns aren't natural. Yet, your Constitution says you can have them.
If the 10th Amendment says - although it doesn't - that same-sex marriage doesn't have the right to exist, then neither does your precious 2nd Amendment.
...but governments can say that 'Cre(a)ti(o)nism' isn't valid, even as a 'theory', therefore it doesn't have the legal right to exist; Kitzmiller vs. Dover, bitches. PROTIP: 'Faith' schools here in the UK, if they're to continue to receive state funding, must teach the Big Bang & Evolution as fact . Why? One word: China. Thus no KvD required here.
That's just the way things work here on Planet Reality. China's schools: no religion allowed.
In nature there are over 1000 species of animals that engage in homosexual sex.
Many variants of whiptail lizard are all-female, all-lesbian, and they're quite successful.
Nature doesn't call them birds, humans do - and only English speakers at that. Also, marriage is a social rather than a natural construct. It's not that hard, really.
The way these are worded gives me the impression they're often trying to suggest that legalizing same-sex marriage means straights are gonna be forced to marry same sex partners.
"I can’t really be married to a same sex person, for the same reason that I can’t flap my arms and fly."
And the ones that straight-out say you will be indoctrinated in school and encouraged to do so.
Ramp up the fear, wind up the sheep.
1/3 = .3333...
2/3 = .6666...
1/3 + 2/3 = 1
.3333... + .6666... = .9999...
Therefore, .9999... = 1, and therefore, your marriage is invalid unless the ritual included jumping over a broom. The Great Oz has spoken!
I'm really finding it hard these days to find new ways to say, YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID, DIPSTICK!
Neither can the Bible but that doesn't stop you from trying.
First of all marriage is not a facet of nature like wings and gravity but a social contract. The benefits that come with it are a construct of society and have existed since before your religion.
Homosexuality exits in nature, no matter how you shake your bible Bible and how much you want the government to say otherwise they can't change that. Deal with it. They can, however, grant the same legal recognition for entering the same social contract as any heterosexual couple.
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.....Now, worry about stuff that matters, like feeding starving kids or something.
A) Perhaps you're thinking of a fantasy scenario that has inexplicably become entwined with reality.
B) You seem inclined to treat fantasy scenarios as though they were part of reality and the world of sanity.
Conclusion. You're certainly deluded and possibly insane.
Can't you at least have the good grace to invent your own words instead of pinching ours. For instance, marry = when atheists pair off. I think the word you may be looking for would be something like deludobond, or intergullibilate, or perhaps thickojoin or even fantaswed.
Well, as long as we are talking about natural versus unnatural, I do not see any animals practicing religion. So, the very code that you use to determine what is unnatural is, itself, unnatural.
A) And you can say that two legally bound people are not married according to your religion, the law says tough tities. Procreative abilities has fuck all to do with it, or else infertile and menopausal couples would be unable to marry.
B) No, it's about religious belief. Don't bullshit a bullshitter.
Nature makes some things have certain functions
And you say this using the Internet... a wonderfully UNNATURAL thing. You might just want to avoid using what is natural as an argument, since there is very little about your life that is natural...
Ah, why do I bother...? If this guy could think even remotely rationally, he wouldn't make such moronic statements.
It is not about a religious belief. It is a fact of life like the birds and the bees.
And that is why those who are sterile, those who choose to be childless, and those who have got past the menopause are all banned from getting married... right?
Dammit... there I go using rational thought processes again...
"I can’t really be married to a same sex person, for the same reason that I can’t flap my arms and fly."
Reproduction and marriage are not the same thing, you idiot.
If you're going to pick one variant of marriage from a religious book that has multiple examples of approved by god marriage as the "only correct one" you'll have to provide evidence as to why that one is correct and the others are wrong. The holy babble does not state that one-man-one-woman is right and everything else is bad.
And, yeah, human concepts like marriage have nothing to do with nature. Or sex. Pretty sure animals and plants don't obey traffic laws or understand what public indecency is etc...
Governments can’t make 2 + 2 = 5 by saying so.
But they can say that a "married couple" is entitled under the law to certain privileges under tax, inheritance, support, privacy, joint property and other financial laws that individuals are not, and define a "married couple" any way they like for the purposes of the law.
Ever hear about whip-tail lizards? They procreate with themselves; every member is female. Government can say 1+1 = 2 (as in man plus man is a couple.
Bats flap their arms and fly, and they are not birds. Bees only mate once in life (one drone and one queen), and the queen spends the rest of her life giving birth, literally. Drones spend their short lives pampering the queen, and when winter comes, they are all kicked out of the hive; no need for pampering when the hive is in hibernation. That is the way it works for bees. You wanna be kicked out of the community when winter comes, Timmy-boy?
Humans don't just marry for procreation, silly; we marry for comfort, joy, companionship and love. A lot of couples stay deliberately child-free, others (like hubby and me) just accept our childlessness and go on with our lives without kids.
Marriage is already a legal contract between two consenting adults. YOU make up a new name, if you think your thing is "clearly different"; we don't think any new name is needed.
Confused?
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