If God does in fact exist and created/maintains our reality then there should also be observations which cannot be explained by natural mechanisms. Quantum randomness is such an observation.
Now keep in mind, quantum randomness isn't something that hasn't been explained by natural mechanisms. It is an observation that has been scientifically shown that it cannot be explained by natural mechanisms.
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Just because the natural mechanisms behind quantum randomness are poorly-understood doesn't mean they don't exist.
Yeah, "I can't explain it, therefore God" is a terrible argument.
I'd guess that quantum randomness has not been explained by natural mechanisms, YET. Give it a bit of time, and it will probably be explained by natural mechanisms. Will your god cease to exist then? Again...
Besides, even IF there is a supernatural mechanism, where's the evidence that it is your particular deity, and not one of the other thousands of gods?
Randomness is just a state. It's basically the absence of order, just like dark is an absence of light.
At any rate, as other here have pointed out, not being able to explain something is not evidence for any gods.
Actually quantum randomness proves that omnipresent God is impossible because He would observe all systems all the time and therefore all systems would always stay in their initial states with deterministic time evolution given by Schrödinger equation. Or in the words of a wise man:
"As Deepak Chopra taught us, quantum physics means anything can happen at any time for no reason!"
"Heywood, you forgot to add the word "yet"."
Sadly, fundies don't care about "yet". To them, if there's no known natural explanation *now* then there IS no natural explanation. GODDIDIT!!!
CREATIONIST: Its obvious that God created the universe. Look how structured and orderly it is. Only God could make such a well ordered universe.
SCIENTIST: Actually, there is a lot of randomness to the universe.
CREATIONIST: There is? Well, that proves that God created the universe!
(SCIENTIST begins smashing head against the floor while CREATIONIST grins smugly)
Well Heywood, that's quite a theory. One that counters most believers idea that the universe is completely balanced and perfect via God.
But that's OK, you're both wrong.
"Now keep in mind, quantum randomness isn't something that hasn't been explained by natural mechanisms. It is an observation that has been scientifically shown that it cannot be explained by natural mechanisms."
Looks like self-contradiction to me.
You caan't generally show that something can not be explained by natural mechanisms until you can prove that all natural mechanisms are known OR you can show something is being caused by an unnatural event.
I dunno is perfectly acceptable in science.
"It is an observation that has been scientifically shown that it cannot be explained by natural mechanisms."
Ahh, you mean like talking donkeys Innit.
>>Goomy pls
Blasphemy! Everyone knows it was Eris. There is no Goddess but Goddess and She is Your Goddess. As an authorized pope of Discordianism, you should know this, and as an authorized pope myself I'm giving the screen a stern-ish look of disapproval right now, and afterwards I'm going to go eat a sandwich because I'm hungry. Fnord.
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If God does in fact exist...
Stop right there. You don't get to pin your explanation for the universe, or anything else, on something that can't be demonstrated to exist.
What a fancy way to say, "I dunnno, therefore God."
Didja ever stop to think that all this quantum weirdness might just be Zeno's paradox applied to mathematics?
Edit @ goomy pls:
Someone screwed with the signage. Your Discordian title is: =POPE=
If you like, by the power vested in me in 1982, I can also make you St. (your first name here) of the Norse Brahmanist Church. You have to read augury using vegetarian entrails if you want to be a practicing Saint. We used spaghetti, little knowing we were being guided by a noodly appendage ;-)
Heywood, jabuzzoff!
Kidding, but you actually got a decent amount right. Any deity worth the believing in should be doing /something/, right? And that something should be fairly obviously outside the realm of known possibilities, otherwise we can write it off to things interacting as they always have and continue on our day.
@anothga
Dome has been neutralised anyway. We outsmarted the randomiser so that the Helix could come back right and the Dome wrong, helping to beat the TRUE evil being, Bill.
@Creedence Leonore Gielgud
So now I'm a pope of Discordianism?
I'll put that on my list of "religious" beliefs~
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When have scientists ever said that "scientifically speaking" something can't be explained by science? No one is saying it is a supernatural phenomenon. Except crazy people, apparently. It's absurd to say that something must be unnatural simply because it is not completely understood and still being studied. And lack of information does not equate to "proof" of any gods.
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