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Again, Tony, you are making the mistake of thinking God is "just another" person. From a human perspective, His standard is objective, because all humans are subject to it. He is not. If there is a king in a kingdom, and he makes an edict that murder is illegal, it is not a subjective law just because a person made it (your narrow definition of "dependent on a person" does not capture the sense of the word in common parlance). It is objective as far as anyone living in the kingdom is concerned. Subjective means the people could say, "Well, king, that's YOUR opinion. MINE is that murder is fine. Your law is true for you, mine is true for me." THAT would be a subjective law. And that doesn't free him from the inevitable beheading he will get when he murders someone. I think you'll be hard pressed to find a lot of philosophers who agree with your definition of "objective" as a standard that even God would be subject to. Without God, there would be no standard, so there is no such thing as an objective standard of the calibur you are talking about. You would then have to posit an even more transcendent lawgiver than God. Your incoherent responses are starting to border on the not-worth-answering.



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