[On what circumstances South Dakota should allow an abortion to be performed}
BILL NAPOLI: A real-life description to me would be a rape victim, brutally raped, savaged. The girl was a virgin. She was religious. She planned on saving her virginity until she was married. She was brutalized and raped, sodomized as bad as you can possibly make it, and is impregnated. I mean, that girl could be so messed up, physically and psychologically, that carrying that child could very well threaten her life
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<<Also, how do they determine if she was a virgin?>>
She would have be inspected by a priest on a monthly basis, with the church issuing a certificate of virginity. If she then got pregnant as a result of rape she could use her certificate to get an abortion.
Wait, he left out the fact that it must also be the second (or preferably third) full moon in the same month, never happen on days that end in "Y," the pregnant woman must own at least three dogs where one is named “Jake,” the street the woman lives on can be no more than six blocks long and not contain any vowels in its name, the sun must be eclipsed at least partially (full eclipse preferred) during the day of the procedure, the Missouri river must flow upstream for a period not to exceed 36 minutes, and the aborted fetus must be shellacked and worn around the patient’s neck as a warning to anyone else who thinks they might want to exercise their right to control their own body/destiny.
Let's not forget women who have/had ectopic (a.k.a. tubal or extrauterine) pregnancy, incomplete miscarriage, missed miscarriage, spontaneous miscarriage, and molar pregnancy. Those women don't deserve to live if they can't carry a viable fetus! It's much better for the woman to get an infection and die because the fetus wasn't removed fully and properly.
And I just thought of something. Why would she have to abort if she was religious? I thought "be fruitful and multiply" was important in religion. I would think she should be more likely to be approved of an abortion if she weren't religious so we wouldn't bring another infidel into the world (god forbid).
I've never understood the view that abortion is alright if the pregnancy was the result of rape or incest. If one believes abortion is murder, then it's murder not matter how conception happened. More religious double-speak.
Also, is this clown saying that if the victim was a virgin, religious, saving her virginity for marriage, was brutally raped, but *not* sodomized that she should not be allowed an abortion?
Curiously, this guy's criteria mean that only religious women could have abortions.
It's good to know our nation is being lead by the "best and the brightest."
Peachy,
My thoughts exactly. Apparently, it only counts if it happens to a really good girl. You know, the virgin mary type. Fucker.
This guy caused a few naughty words to spew from my mouth with his comments.
You can't dress up rape and make it look pretty to anyone. From the moment the rape begins until it ends, that is the worst moment in the victim's life. You can't say to him/her (because men can be raped too, they just can't get pregnant) "Oh, well the attacker didn't do [insert whatever here] so it wasn't bad enough."
Any rape victim is going to be "messed up" physically and psychologically for the rest of his/her freaking life regardless of whatever level of severity you try to attach to it.
I hate to ever feel a need to say this, but I think that Senator Bill Napoli needs to get raped, sodomized (but not as badly as you can possibly make it) and impregnated. Maybe the fucker would learn better from that.
I've noticed on several blogs that this guy is becoming a word:
Napoli. Verb. 1. To brutalize and rape, sodomize as bad as you can possibly make it, a young, religious virgin woman who was saving herself for marriage. 2. To hella rape somebody.
So atheist rape victims should be barred from abortions, since they wouldn't be as messed up, physically and psycologically, as a religious girl.
Riiiighhht. This man is in a state law-making body???
I'd better not see him in Washington in a few years :(
What a dickhead. Because if she wasn't sodomized, or religious, or a virgin, she wasn't really raped.
Fuck yourself with a cactus.
Well, I certainly agree with Mr Napoli's assertion that the grounds he describes here would be adequate justification for rape. But, since the actual problem we face is deciding where the limit should be drawn somewhere in the middle of a continuum, giving us an extreme example as far away from the grey area as possible doesn't help resolve matters one bit.
Holy shit, that was one hell of a mistype (or a Freudian slip, maybe) in my last post, #403908. I meant "abortion", not "rape" at the end of the first sentence - I hope this is obvious from the rest of the text! Gawd, I need to get more sleep.
Wow, evidentally you have to go through the most horrible experience the Fundie assholes can possibly think up to get an abortion.
Oh, AND they have to live up to whatever feminine stereotypes you want them to, or it was deserved.
Even the most imaginative, torturous description of Hell is too good for you, Bill.
Puistokemisti asked
Does this mean that if she was a virgin but not religious, she's not allowed abortion?
Also, how do they determine if she was a virgin?
Easy answer her dad and the pastor don't count
I've commented on this before in a previous thread, but I'll do it again. There are so many holes in his theory it lets water when it rains. If they weren't sodomized, it wasn't rape? How do you determine if the girl fits your damn stupid criteria?
So female who is: atheist, agnostic, any religious denomination other than Christianity, non-virginal single, cohabiting, widowed, a spinster, disabled, married, divorced, destitute, mentally ill, had been raped before, or is a prostitute is somehow deserving of rape and an unwanted pregnancy because they don't fit your wet-dream definition of "chaste"?
How the hell did you become a senator with that massive Madonna/whore complex you have?
so if he would allow it under certain circumstaqnces, then it's only a matter of where you draw the line, rather than exclude the opttion all together. It's purely a subjective decision then, open to challenge, and accusations of partiality.
Because only virginal Christians have any true feelings, everyone else is like, meh, rape, I need a cup of tea. Fucktard.
Confused?
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