This needs to be said for the newbies and for the hopium addicts. There is no hope! Nothing can save us.

418ppm of co2, even if we stopped polluting today, all of the co2 we are currently releasing today will take 50 years to hit the top of the atmosphere. That means that if we stopped all emissions today, we would still be looking at 100 years just to get back to where we are today. We are already seeing feedback loops with methane being released in the arctic and elsewhere. There is no way we avoid what is coming, even the steps being proposed in here by the most hopeful of us, will not stop the inevitable.

The hope that people will stop raising cows and pigs and eating meat, will never happen. Countries around the world will not stop using fossil fuels even when there are better alternatives. Humanity by its's very nature is greedy and myopic. I am not a happy doomer who is hoping humanity will die, I want a future, I want to live long enough to retire and have a good old age. It's not going to happen though.

r/collapse isn't so much about looking for solutions to save us, it's about accepting the inevitable and watching everything unfold and talking with like minded individuals who are trying to prepare people for this future and the hardships we are going to face.

Don't just sit in a corner and cry about the future though, make sure that you go out and enjoy the earth while you can, she's still quite pretty.