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The question here is simple. What would you have done if you were in the same position as Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, where several of your daughters told you that their 15-year old brother had been openly touching them on the breasts and genital areas both when sleeping and awake?

This whole thing was blown out of proportion to the point of being beyond rediculous. 14 year old boys are perverts! 1st offense you don't call the police, you don't call a counselor, you have stern talk with both of them. You relieve the girl of any guilt and teach the boy a lesson in self control and then watch him closely for an extended period of time.

I know first hand of many cases of minor incestuous acts where brothers humped on their sister while wrestling, or copped a feel here and there and 20 years later counselors told them how bad it fucked them up. They in turn took it to the family and fucked up the whole family over something that occured as children. The News should be held accountable for this one.


I really don't know anything about the Duggars. My response was based more on general touching by siblings durring early teens. Every little glitch that boys and girls go through in life does not have to be life changing. I would agree that a boy who acts out in this way should be watched and monitored closely as it does point to some scary tendencies but I would also hazard to guess the the vast majority of boys that have done this grow up to be normal responsible men. His life doesn't have to be ruined over an incident and neither does the girls.

I never trusted older boys around my kids period. Boys are prone to making bad decisions when they are going through puberty. Yes it is wrong but it has been happening since the stone age and doesn't seem to be stopping as of yet.


I have spent the past 25 years doing volunteer work with recovering addicts and alcoholics. The great majority of these people have suffered from abuse and molestation to one degree or another.

One thing I find interesting is that amoung the ones who truly do recover and move on in life many of the women have changed their stories. They often admit to being awake and playing asleep because they enjoyed the attention. They admit to being casualy seductive and making the boy feel it was all his idea. Kids are kids, screw guilt. Parents need to step up to the plate and deal with things like this as they come up. Explain to the kids that things like this might happen but should never happen again.
. I said for best possible outcomes families in most cases could best handle it themselves. When you involve social workers who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground and have an agenda going in you are flirting with disaster worse than the molestation.

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