(This fundie is being serious, alas)
since gay sex is consensual , as the argument goes ....
then does that mean if someone wants to die and tells some1 to kill him and he does than does that mean it was alright since it was consensual ?
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Not usually, because most people who want to die are not in their right mind and are therefore unable to give proper consent. However, I do strongly believe that under certain circumstances this would be permissible such as constant pain, zero chance of any quality of life, certainty of a horrible death etc.
Though fanatics never think things like that through, preferring instead to scream 'NO!' and then think up a justification for it. Or else repeat someone else's justification that's already been debunked a thousand times.
Yes, indeed, assisted suicide is a thing in several countries, usually some sort of supervision will be involved but yes he is not commiting anything wrong.
Yeah, assisted suicide is a thing. On the understanding that the person dying is in their right mind, and thus can actually consent, I do think that's alright.
then does that mean if someone wants to die and tells some1 to kill him and he does than does that mean it was alright since it was consensual ?
Just ask Alexander when his father Worf was paralysed.
Seems that he being a 'lightning rod' for luck had the desired effect when his father got better; since then, while being accident-prone himself, Alexander serving on a ship ensures it never gets damaged in battle: thus it's crew earns greater glory & honour.
Klingons wish for a glorious death in battle.
You want to die for Islam? I'll shove a grenade up your arse: while you're bound & gagged.
...what's that? Sorry, I can't understand you. Which means you consent to my pulling the very long wire attached to the pin. POW! Sphincter Tartare!
You'll have to change your name to Napoleon Blown apart, boobz.
Sex and death are the same thing to you?
You must be fun at parties...
And yeah, assisted suicide is a thing in some countries.
If your parable is to work, it needs to be a suicide pact; both kill each other.
Sex is something you usually do together with someone, for mutual pleasure.
Sure, if you're a sadistic murderer and the other person enjoys death, then it might work...
So, presumably, this noobz person is 'alright' with Abraham being prepared to sacrifice his son because God asked him to. Not consensual, not between adults.
I find this noobz to be completely lacking in credibility to question the 'consenting adults' standard for acceptable sex.
Assisted suicide is legal in Oregon, so yeah, but it usually only applies in medical cases. But it's not like a normal, healthy, functioning person is ever going to tell someone to kill them just because.
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