"my brain was flat-out too fried by the short that just occurred"
This is how cultists respond to everything outside the cult.
Once they give up the cult, their brains stop short-circuiting on non-cult triggers, & they can think again.
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I notice that they used the term “critical thinking” a lot.
As much as any “critical thinking” may be going on, it’s coming from a place of ignorance. I suspect that there isn’t a whole lot of actual thinking going on, critical or otherwise.
Outside of the fantasy of every Dizy03157088 out there, has anyone ever said that transwomen are “better at being women” than cis women?
And cis just means “your gender identity matches your physical sex.” Who would perceive it to be a slur?
@Malingspann #137567
the most “intelectual” explanations about this is, that they perceive “gender identity” to mean “identifying with the traditional gender norms, gender stereotypes and traditional gender roles”, which would mean that to call someone a “cis woman” would mean to claim that she is fine with the subordinate status assigned to women under the patriarchy. Of course, that’s not what gender identity is, but good luck trying to explain that to a transphobe who doesn’t want to understand.
@Malingspann , @Taln_Reich :
I’ve also seen the argument that it “forces” a label on them which they didn’t choose and don’t identify with, and is an attack on their perception of being “normal” in a way which doesn’t need any labels, except maybe “straight”. (Though I’ve seen a few of them claim that they don’t even identify as “straight”, they’re just “normals”, and I’m not entirely sure if they were joking…) That’s not a slur, but an out-group label - though it’s not like most of them know what an out-group label is, so “slur” is probably the closest description most of them can come up with.
That’s a pretty weaksauce argument, though, since a lot of cis people now identify as cis, and the kind of people who don’t do that rarely have any issues with putting out-group labels on other people - and even sometimes don’t have issues with using slurs. You know, like how most TERFs object to being called TERFs (and to being called cis, for that matter) but call trans people “troons”, among other things, in order to dehumanize them. If they genuinely believed either out-group labeling or slurs were inherently bad, then they would make a point not to do such things themselves. (It’s only bad when it happens to them…)
If it's a cult, where are the churches or official websites? Where, as someone who feels outside of it, can I get my daily dose of "spiritual food"? What's the excommunication process and rules? Who's the "godly", unquestionable, possibly charismatic, leader? Where can I get statistics about the level of education and homeschooling, tension with the world, rejection of science? What are their origin myths? What about their splinter groups? Does the official branch have tax-exempt status? What is their religious current? What's the eschatology? The apologetics for theodicy? So many questions!
Another important distinction: why is it that if interpreting the table correctly, the right column is best described as an attempt to force others into specific models? And as the propaganda they are hypocritically "denouncing"?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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