[After insisting that human reproductive rates show YEC to be true because of rapid growth in more recent times, and being countered with the fact that reproduction rates aren't steady, or the world would be overrun with bacteria...]
Bacteria aren't humans. Obviously, human beings, compared to how many offspring they breed on average, have a greater population growth rate then any other organism on earth. That's why.
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Wrong, wrong, wrong! Go back to school, learn some basic biology, shitbits. (been awhile since we've heard from this fuckwit)
E Coli splits what, once every four hours or so? And they keep doing it until they run out of resources. Humans, on the other hand, require at least nine months per spawning, and less than half of the population can do so. Beyond that, for a human to be capable of having viable offspring, you need to wait roughly 15 years, whereas a new E Coli bacterium can spawn again in four hours or so, just like the rest of them. So no, human beings do NOT have the greatest population growth rate on Earth.
Idiot.
Well, hey, if you're stupid and oblivious enough to be a YEC in the first place, who's going to notice a little more stupidity?
Humans: 1 offspring per batch, nine month gestation period, typically 1.5+ years between each child.
E coli: Under ideal circumstances, colony doubles every 4 (or was it 7?) hours.
Alex,
YEC is Young Earth Creationism, the belief that the earth is approximately 6000 years old and was created as it is now by God, in 7 days. I think that's the basic idea, anyway.
Shinbits,
How can you possibly think that an organism that is capable of producing a single offspring in 16 years (or, to be generous and assume that that's all you are trying to do, 15 or so in 40 years) can possibly outbreed things that can produce 8-12 offspring every month (without even going out of mammals!). Populations expand until there are no more resources and then contract and stabilize. You learn about this in your first biology class, if you've gotten that far in your education. I suspect not.
Bacteria, mice, rabbits, spiders, viral agents and many more fun creatures reproduce faster than humans. Does he also think that there are more humans than ants or beetles on this planet?
Okay, reading the thread, it looks like his point is that humans have a high population growth rate considering how few offspring they produce (which I guess is probably reasonably true given the healthcare and social support many of us have that other animals with similar rates of offspring production to us don't).
I don't know how this is in any way a valid argument or useful for anything, though, and he does go on to say
"And for this reason, humans could not have been around for hundreds of thousands or millions of years. The population growth curve is great evidence of a young earth."
because obviously the growth rate - absolute and proportional - has been the same for all of time...
My brains, my beautiful brains!
[edit] Quoting the same dolt:
"Let's put it this way: if bacteria and humans had the same rate of reproduction, humans would leave bacteria in the dust, as far as population growth.
Got it? That's what "compared to" means."
KILL THE STUPID WITH FIRE
"Wow. This is such a huge falacy. Just because one organism has exponential growth, that in no way, means that all organisms should experience the same ratio of population growth.
You guys are now spitting out some remarkably erroneous fallacies."
JUST KILL IT
Dear shinbits,
Please read and pay close attention to all the advice given in the previous comments. You will be a better and wiser bacteria, I mean person, for having done so.
[Shinbits, answer this. If all technology suddenly reverted to the bronze age tomorrow (meaning no modern sanitation, refridgeration, industrialization, mechanization, or modern medicine), would the growth rate of humans remain the same as they are right now?]
"No of course not. Civilized nations aren't used to such a life-style and would die out. Those that live, however, would continue to grow, as humans always have before modern technology, and because of the abundance of food, would continue to grow and fill the earth again, because of human being's fast population growth rate."
The fundie logic is like a sequel to John Carpenter's "The Thing". It's not human, even though it disguises itself in human form.
it's no fair referencing bacteria, don't you know reality is a trick god plays on our minds? there is no such thing as bacteria, by simply praying harder you can cure anything... except for lost limbs, and bringing back the dead, and making mommy love me more... basically praying is hit or miss but when something good happens it's gods work.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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