["Adolf Hitler, the Wotan Avatar as Prophecied in the Year of His Birth"]
Dr Jung was effectively the first one to recognise that Wotan had awoken and resided not only in Hitler but the German people as a whole. This reawakening started not with Hitler. The groundwork had begun in the 19th century and the most obvious example of Wotan moving in the German Collective Unconscious was reflected in the music of Wilhelm Richard Wagner and in particular in his Der Ring des Nibelungen cycle of music dramas. Savitri Devi and Miguel Serrano took this conclusion one step further and referred to Hitler as being an avatar. This is clearly reflected in Savitri`s The Lightning and the Sun[1958].
The 12 years of the Third Reich may be likened to the 12 nights of Yule which is dominated by the Wild Hunt, headed by Wotan Himself. Curiously one of Adolf Hitler`s favourite paintings according to various scholars such as the author of The Psycopathic God , Robert G.L. Waite[1977] was Die Wilde Jagd[The Wild Hunt by Franz Ritter von Stuck. The painting significantly dates back to 1889, the year of Hitler`s birth. Waite states:
"The Wild Chase by Franz von Stuck depicts the god Wotan as a berserker. Hitler was said to have copied his mustache, hair style, and oratorical style from the painting."[Waite]
I am not clear about how an "oratorical style" can be copied from a painting but I think I get the general gist of what he is implying. It is significant that the face of Wotan in the picture directly resembles Hitler. One could conjecture that von Stuck was trying to convey something which had been revealed to him from the Collective Unconscious.
18 comments
What drives these Hitler worshipers?
Hitler was a mediocre painter of bland cityscapes. His art contains no people. His architectural fantasys were vast citys with no room for people.
He loved buildings, but had no time for people.
His socio-political stance was idiotic and self defeating.
He set up Germany for a catastrophy, and then blamed Germany for his own mistakes.
Methinks you should learn something about Jung, psychology, mythology, history... oh fuck it. Learn goddamned anything before opening your lie-hole again. Your addled mind, diseased heart, and overly talkative ass are not the Norns. Please consult different sources in the future.
Hitler was a barely-adequete landscape painter, a failed art student, a three-timing political whore, a financial failure, a tactically impaired general, a pseudoscientific cretin guided by bunk philosophy and mythos he often made up himself, and generally just a really shitty human being. The only thing he did well was convince people his rancid shit was chocolate ice cream and they ended up doing the hard work for him while he steadily degenerated from mental instability to batshit lunacy.
Why the fuck do you worship him body and soul, nuturing a raging inappropriate hard-on for the little dork even though you compare his manner and countenance to a work literally entitled "The Psychopathic God" where the painting's subject is an unthinking butcher that wouldn't be able to stop himself from cutting down his own people if they stumbled in front of him during his murder high?
Also, he walked, waved, and styled his hair like a girl and was overly concerned with fashion and dress. What is it you're always saying of 'effeminate' men?
'Metrosexual' even?
Von Stuck was a good painter, but too hung up on a lot of fin de siècle decadent angsty stuff, including clutching his pearls over the inherent naughtiness of women. My hunch is he just didn't have the guts to be Felicien Rops. No doubt a great influence on the young Adolph, who should have stuck to his Karl May novels.
It's comforting to know that some things don't change. Wotansreeker is still waddling around, reeking.
Wagner, by the way, seems to have been mightily motivated by the fact that he looked a lot like his mother's Jewish lover.
Dr Jung was effectively the first one to recognise that Wotan had awoken and resided not only in Hitler but the German people as a whole. This reawakening started not with Hitler. The groundwork had begun in the 19th century and the most obvious example of Wotan moving in the German Collective Unconscious was reflected in the music of Wilhelm Richard Wagner and in particular in his Der Ring des Nibelungen cycle of music dramas. Savitri Devi and Miguel Serrano took this conclusion one step further and referred to Hitler as being an avatar.
I'll just leave a quote by Tolkien as a response.
"I have in this War a burning private grudgewhich would probably make me a better soldier at 49 than I was at 22: against that ruddy little ignoramus Adolf Hitler ... Ruining, perverting, misapplying, and making for ever accursed, that noble northern spirit, a supreme contribution to Europe, which I have ever loved, and tried to present in its true light."
Now, I'm a bit rusty on my Norse Mythology, but didn't the Aesir come from Asia? At least, according to the Prose Edda AKA one of the two main sources we have on Norse Mythology?
Pure, undiluted Hitler-worshipping nonsense. I just don't get what drives people like this to worship the man. He was a failure at just about everything he put his hand to. Considering his reign over Germany ended in the country reduced to rubble and occupied by foreign powers, I wouldn't consider his political career very successful either. When you factor in the suffering directly caused by the Nazis, especially the Holocaust (the elephant in the room in any Nazi-related discussion), there's nothing admirable about Hitler or his "ideals".
As a side note, I thought Hitler copied his mustache off of Charlie Chaplain. I also don't see how one can copy an oratorical style from a painting.
Hey, you know what else happened in 1889?
A total eclipse is seen over parts of California and Nevada.
Wovoka experiences a vision leading to the start of the Ghost Dance movement in the Dakotas.
Herman Hollerith receives a patent for his electric tabulating machine in the United States.
The Coca-Cola Company, then known as the Pemberton Medicine Company, is originally incorporated in Atlanta, Georgia.
The first issue of Glasgow University Magazine is published.
Vincent van Gogh paints Starry Night at Saint-Rémy-de-Provence.
A Neapolitan baker named Raffaele Esposito invents the Pizza
Gustav Mahler's First Symphony premieres.
The first jukebox goes into operation at the Palais Royale Saloon in San Francisco.
So yes, it clearly all comes together.
However, you never mentioned the part in which he committed suicide after turning German people in complete shit. You know, it would not be appropiate to characterise Wota, am I right?
If Hitler was an incarnation of Woden/Odin, then why was basically the only thing he didn't suck at was being an orator? Why'd he lose the war so badly and destroy his country in the process? Why'd he waste so many resources carrying out the Holocaust when he could've put them to better use on the Eastern Front? Maybe, just maybe, Hitler was just a failure of an ordinary human being and not some divine avatar?
Unfortunately, you've mis-quoted Robert Waite. He never wrote that Hitler copied his "oratorical style" from von Stuck's painting (unless he wrote this in a different edition of the book than the one I own). Here is what Waite actually wrote (from "The Psychopathic God: Adolf Hitler," 1977 hardback edition, Basic Books, New York, page 78): "It seems likely that he adjusted his personal appearance - forelock, mustache, and the red cape he affected at Nuremberg party rallies - to conform to this image of the hard-riding apotheosis of brutality, power, and destruction." So, yes, he SPECULATED (but did not state definitively) that the painting MAY have influenced Hitler in the ways he mentioned, but he did not say anything about "oratorical style." So where did you come up with this? Also, just for the sake of coherence, why is it that some people insist that an interest in Hitler is necessarily the sign of a sick mind? Does that mean that Robert Waite, and John Toland, and Alan Bullock, and the hundreds of other distinguished scholars who have written books about Hitler are sick or perverted? Isn't it, rather, that it's historically and culturally worthwhile to understand why this certifiably psychotic man had such enormous influence over the German population (not to mention the rest of the world) during the mid-20th century? Isn't this something every one of us should at least take into consideration, if only to understand more about human beings and the human condition generally? In any case, let's dispense with this kind of ad hominem pseudo-criticism masquerading as psychology.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.