A JW woman can have no position of authority in the congregation. For that matter, if a 12-year-old JW boy is baptized and he is the only male in a group of older women, HE is the one who will offer prayer, and, if they are going out in field service, HE is the one who will make the decisions.
If a JW woman is highly trained in a certain field, and is working with an inexperienced JW male in her field of expertise (as in, perhaps, some sort of building project) SHE will have to acquiesce to the inexperienced male, even though SHE is the one who should, logically, be leading the group.
The first "step up" for a JW male is to be assigned to handle microphones or do some other minimal "privilege" in the congregation. After that, he can be appointed as a Ministerial Servant, and then, possibly an Elder. Within the body of Elders, there are various positions, with Presiding Overseer being the top position at the congregation level.
There are many other titles within the JW hierarchy...all of which are reserved for men.
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As a non-JW, if I know more than you on a certain subject (as long as nobody's life is at stake), I just might let you make an ass out of yourself, pwn you after you fuck up, and tell you what you can do with your "authority."
Good, keep women away from the JW religion, they (and I, also a woman) are way too smart for that cult bullshit.
If a 12 year old boy ever assumes any power over me, I'd flip.
Go sexism! W00t w00t!
But, yes, religion teaches us that people are equal, etc. etc.
@CeilingCat: Sounds like S & M, pedophilia kind of stuff. Best take that to the Catholic patriarchy...
"if a 12-year-old ... is the only male in a group of older women"
I had a dream just like that. :D
"Within the body of Elders, there are various positions"
hahaha.
So much for God loving everyone equally LOL LOL LOL
For that matter, if a 12-year-old
Yes, we know your type loves little boys. It's a wonder you retards compare homosexuality to pedophilia.
Ah, standard religious misogyny. I'm so glad that I'm a secularist, and held back by no outdated ideas about "the weaker sex".
I have to wonder how these sexist fucks feel when a measly woman like me manages to hand their asses back to them in debate. Gotta be a shot in the nuts...
""If a JW woman is highly trained in a certain field, and is working with an inexperienced JW male in her field of expertise (as in, perhaps, some sort of building project) SHE will have to acquiesce to the inexperienced male, even though SHE is the one who should, logically, be leading the group.""
I think that about sums up how completely sexist and retarded this policy is.
What if a male, say, one of those dominant 12-year-olds, orders you to take a leadership position? What do you do then, explode?
What kind of woman would put up with this shit?
Come to think, I've never had a female Joho come to my door. That I don't mind, since I'd be less inclined to treat a woman as shabbily as I treat the male Johos who dare ring my doorbell.
My brother is thirteen years old. YOU try telling my mother that she "will have to acquiesce" to him. No, scratch that, try telling both of my parents that my mother will have to bow down to him, and have both of them staring at you like you've sprouted two extra limbs.
Your position makes as much sense as grown black slaves being the property of and subservient to the white slaveowner's children that they had to take care of.
hopefully what happens on said building project is a) 12yo kid says to experienced woman "tell me how to do this" and she gives the orders and he parrots them back, thus pretending he is in control. this only works if the 12yo has half a brain. if said brain is missing, which seems likely, then the 12yo gives order and the women calmly ignore him, listening to the experienced woman instead. however, this only works if the women have half a brain, which is really unlikely. so the most likely scenario is that they build a crappy building and it collapses on someone, who fortunately can't afford to sue them, since it's presumably a charity project of some sort. this makes so much sense....
I actually once dated a young man who'd had the misfortune to be born into a JW family.
His mother -hated- me, but couldn't do anything about it, because her son wanted me around, and since the paterfamilias was rarely home, her son was officially in charge. Hilarity ensued.
For that matter, if a 12-year-old JW boy is baptized and he is the only male in a group of older women...
Sounds like something from a harem anime.
Mormons are technically the same way. Although they wouldn't leave a 12 year old boy in charge.
Although this may be technically true, I'm not sure it's commonly used. Again, in the Mormons, if the 12 year old tried to take authority, his mother would probably smack his ass. But I don't know any JW's personally enough to know how rigidly they follow this.
So, they have to do that just for having a penis. Intelligence or capacity are gifts from God which but have to be wasted for the sake of........I don´t know, fucking ourselves but, at least, be good JW, whatever it means.
Well, that's interesting, but most American men aren't as afraid of women as you are, so we'll pass on your wacky cult.
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