Horseshoe Theory Award II
Disagreeing is insane: the one thing all fundies agree on
Atheists can't be blamed for their arrogance because atheism is nothing but a mental disorder . As a recent medical study in scientific American showed , atheists have trouble with teleological thoughts .
We have to be more compassionate and empathetic of atheists and instead push the government to fund more studies on the mental disorder of atheism in order to help them cope better and one day become normal human beings instead of the delusional lunatics they are today . We have to love them and be empathetic to their disorder.
Why are we caring towards people with other mental illnesses and intolerant of the mental disorder of atheism. Only with love , better medical diagnosis and better therapies can we help them become normal again .
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Teleological--the idea that because order exists, it must have been created by something divine, or that there must be some sort of Original Force/Creator/Whatever. Basically a combo of the 'irreducible complexity' and "first mover" arguments for intelligent design, in other words.
saying "teleological" instead of "the world makes some kind of sense sometimes, which has to mean Jesus did it" might give you the thin illusion of intelligence but it does not mean you're correct. And I have a Canadian study featured in the journal 'Science' that
"shows" (if you want to use imprecise words like that) that religious people lack strength in logic and analytic thinking as compared to less religious people.
Science will never convince your woo-meisters to give up their woo; philosophy will never convince atheists to believe in the woo.
Atheists can't be blamed for their arrogance because atheism is nothing but a mental disorder . As a recent medical study in scientific American showed , atheists have trouble with teleological thoughts .
Well, the part about 'teleological thoughts', I assume, is referring to the teleological argument for God, in which case, that is actually true - many atheists do have trouble with that argument, in the sense that they find it far from convincing, if not downright absurd (one reason for this may be that the teleological argument for God, even if it actually held any water as evidence for any god at all, could actually be applied to argue for the existence of just about any and every god or god-like being ever thought up in the entire history of humankind, which is why it's been around since at least the time of Socrates - the 5th century BCE). This, however, utterly fails to make atheism even anything remotely like a mental disorder.
"In a second experiment, Heywood and Bering compared 27 people with Asperger’s with 34 neurotypical people who are atheists. The atheists, as expected, often invoked anti-teleological responses such as “there is no reason why; things just happen.” The people with Asperger’s were significantly less likely to offer such anti-teleological explanations than the atheists, indicating they were not engaged in teleological thinking at all. (The atheists, in contrast, revealed themselves to be reasoning teleologically, but then they rejected those thoughts.)"
Scientific American May 2010.
Gosh, Bob is lying. I'm shocked, SHOCKED!
@rubber chicken
I don't understand the point of that experiment. If the people with Aspergers weren't all atheists, what does it prove? It seems almost like a tautology to me, to say that atheists think less in teleological terms than some other group of people.
(A teleological tautology? Terribly terrific!)
I first read that as Technological and went "like fuck!"
Then reread it and went, "Is that a word?"
Wikipedia:
"Teleology is the philosophical attempt to describe things in terms of their apparent purpose, directive principle, or goal. A purpose that is imposed by a human use, such as that of a fork, is called extrinsic"
This wouldn't be a mental disorder so much as a trait. We dismiss as many philosophical brainfarts as religious ideologies as they're often comparable and pointless. Might as well call tweaking something a philosophy.
Does that mean Atheists don't realize the fork is designed or that you fucks simply insist a fork has no other purpose. And by 'trouble' you mean Atheists are more likely to accept a forks design as entirely different than claims of a God creator in every real way. Guess I don't understand it but I fail to see the trouble with that as, like religion, and this philosophy, it's vague and leads to endless speculation and I've left the building. Is this one of W.L. Craig selective philosophical 'absolutes'?
So I have to disagree with you Bob.
I put it to you that Christians have been found, in studies, to have problems separating reality from fantasy and children raised in Fundamentalists homes are found to believe in almost anything you tell them while moderates are skeptical early on of fantastic claims. So I suspect this study appealed to those who believe in outside influence over everything.
refusing to see intrinsic purposes and goals where there isn't any good reason to think such exist is an advantage, not a disorder.
in fact, seeing such purposes and goals where there aren't any is a shortcoming of the human mind, an over-eagerness of our pattern finding abilities; similar to how we can "see" patterns and order in random white noise. managing to refuse to fall prey to this is wise and prudent.
You already try to make us your version of "normal human being". You show up at the door and press little pamphlets into our hands. You try to "witness" to us.
There's something wrong with people who think that their delusion is the only permissible delusion. Bob, we are the ones who don't talk to invisible entities. We don't have angels and demons coming to visit us at night. We don't believe that a bronze-age fairy tale for children should be believed to be true. And we know the difference between allegory and fact.
Save that therapy session, you're gonna need it.
NeoMatrix: "The only mentally-disordered people in America today are the religious."
So, there's no such thing as a neurodivergent atheist?
"As a recent medical study in scientific American showed , atheists have trouble with teleological thoughts . "
*Fundiebabble translator engaged*
Atheists don't believe goddidditt no matter how much you say it.
Fundie Christainity is a gluteal disorder: just ask Ken Ham after his is experiencing terminal pain 24/7/365 via Bill Nye.
The gluteal region is relevant: it's where you lot think from. And speak.
Otherwise a certain Science Guy would be the one experiencing the neurological damage his opponent in that debate is right now: and always. So why isn't he?
Why haven't any fundie Christains won a Nobel Prize - in the sciences - to date, Bobby-boy...?!
Confused?
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