[About Ross Barnett, segregationist governor of Mississippi from 1959 to 1963]
A great Southerner who understood and lived by the founding father's doctrine of sovereign independent states. Something modern Americans know very little about!
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the founding father's
There was just one?
A great Southerner
A great Southerner? That's right up there with Santa Claus, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny, and the Loch Ness monster.
[About William Wilberforce, abolitionist MP for Hull from 1780 to 1825]
A great Northerner who understood and lived by the doctrine of doing good by your fellow human. Something Tony Middleton knows less than fuck all about!
U Mad, Bro...?!
Sorry folks, I’m just a bit peeved at the moment, simply because almost every time a Trump ass kisser in the national government opens his/her mouth, a Southern accent comes out. (NB: almost).
Oh no! People with very superficial differences from me want the same rights that I have! Better call for another civil war on this one!
-Tony Middleton, apparently
“I've never understood what the big damn deal about sovereignty is. Can someone explain it to me?”
In the 50’s and 60’s, the racists came out loudly screaming about the dangers of allowing black people equal rights. The general public lambasted them for their horribly backwards, shitty-ass view on the world. After that, the racists and their strategists came together to discuss a way of fighting for their racism without it being obvious that’s what they were doing. So they invested the idea of “state sovereignty” and “state’s rights” to argue that states should be allowed to do whatever they want, regardless of the federal government’s opinions - because they knew the southern states would want to keep Jim Crow going. It’s actually an old argument from shortly after the Founding Fathers, resurrected here to protect “the southern way of life”…
@DarkPhoenix :
No, I know that sovereignty is just a cover. But for non-racists, why is it something they think we should care about? Whenever someone talks about how “that goes against state’s rights” or “you’re violating a country’s sovereignty,” my response has always been to blink and go, “So?”
@Thanos6
What the others said, but also “states rights” (aka sovereignty) in its modern form got rekindled by the federal government using the FBI and other national forces to help force de-segregation of schools in the 60s along with other elements of the Civil Rights process. Today it’s mainly about abortion, where (on the most part) Southern states (bless their racist little hearts) want to be able to ban abortion without federal laws and courts pissing on their party.
@checkmate :
Trust me, I know. I’m a Southerner myself. I know that whenever Southerners talk about “states’ rights,” it’s basically as an excuse for us to keep being backwards. I just don’t understand why anyone who doesn’t want to stay mired in the 19th century should care.
I feel the same for country’s sovereignty. There’s plenty of reasons you could give why Country A shouldn’t invade Country B to overthrow their evil oppressive tyrant, both moral and practical ones, but “they’re a sovereign country” is one of the ones that never resonates with me.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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