[from a CNN.com report about a lesbian couple who kissed in the stands at Safeco Field in Seattle at a Mariners/Red Sox game on May 26]
"But last week, a lesbian complained that an usher at Safeco Field asked her to stop kissing her date because it was making another fan uncomfortable. "
. . .
"The usher, Guerrero said, told them he had received a complaint from a woman nearby who said that there were kids in the crowd of nearly 36,000 and that parents would have to explain why two women were kissing. "
"'I would be uncomfortable' seeing public displays of affection between lesbians or gay men, said Jim Ridneour, a 54-year-old taxi driver. 'I don't think it's right seeing women kissing in public. If I had my family there, I'd have to explain what's going on.' "
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This attitude is so moronic. Just because something bothers you doesn't mean that someone else doesn't have the right to do it. Grow a thicker skin! Furthermore, maybe it would do your kids some good to see some diversity out there. Then again, fundies seem to hate things that are outside their own religion, so this quote isn't surprising.
"If I had my family there, I'd have to explain what's going on."
I can see why this would make them uncomfortable. Because any child will machete through a homophobe's logic in six seconds flat:
"Mummy, why are those two women kissing?"
"Because they're evil honey."
"But why?"
"Because they're homosexuals."
"But why?"
"Because they chose to be that way."
"But why?"
"Because they hate God."
"But why?"
"Because they know they'll go to Hell."
"But why?"
"Because God hates gay people."
"But why?"
"Because they're an abomination."
"But why?"
"Erm..."
Because TEH GHEYS are all predators and pedophiles, doncha know.
And why was the person who complained Nosey Nora-ing into what was going on around her in the stands? That's how people get hit with foul balls and shattered maple bats!
When I go to a Rockies game, I'm damn well paying attention to what's going on ON THE FIELD OF PLAY!
And the 54-year-old cabbie is lying through his teeth.
She could say to her kids: "They're kissing because they love one another very much."
That would be a good lesson, I think. Even Christian . . .
Mind you, those girls should get a room. Snogging at a baseball game is completely inappropriate (unless the Mariners were winning).
fergus
Boo fucking hoo. I don't like having to watch any kind of public affection, but you know what I do? I don't frigging look at it.
If rude jackass straight couples are allowed to eat eachother's faces in public, then I see no reason why we shouldn't let rude jackass gay couples do the same.
How do they explain the 'straight' couple making out in the stands? If it had been a heterosexual couple doing what they did, the woman wouldn't have complained?
I've been to games where you could see this activity going on. My spouse laughs at them and screams get a room!
I'd rather see PDA's than drunks beating on each other over a game (I've seen that too).
"'I would be uncomfortable' seeing public displays of affection between lesbians or gay men, said Jim Ridneour, a 54-year-old taxi driver. 'I don't think it's right seeing women kissing in public. If I had my family there, I'd have to explain what's going on.'"
Agree totally with Darth_Toxic:
"Boo fucking hoo. I don't like having to watch any kind of public affection, but you know what I do? I don't frigging look at it.
If rude jackass straight couples are allowed to eat eachother's faces in public, then I see no reason why we shouldn't let rude jackass gay couples do the same."
Not having to explain things to children!! Oh, the humanity. It's not like they can tell a kid that sometimes men are attracted to men and women are attracted to women. I mean, it's not like these kids might ever know a gay person. Or--oh, sweet Jesus let it not be so--they turn out gay themselves.
I can't stand this bull crap. If straight people can kiss in the stadium, then so can gay people. I'd bet that all it was was probably a quick kiss or two and people still had a fit over it.
I am not uncomfortable, and if you have 2 explain 2 men or 2 women,why not just say they love each other?And some of us don't mind public displays of affection between others be it straight or gay or otherwise.
and that parents would have to explain why two women were kissing.
So what? You tell them that some people are attracted to the same sex and move on. With any luck, your homophobic attitude won't rub off on them and they'll grow up to see it as no big deal. Seeing two people of the same sex is not going to have anymore of an affect on them than seeing two people of the opposite sex kiss unless you make a big deal out of it.
"If I had my family there, I'd have to explain what's going on.'"
I don't want your bigotry printed in public. If my family reads it, I'd have to explain what's going on.
If I had my family there, I'd have to explain what's going on.
Why do they always say this like it's a bad thing? Or do the fundies just keep their kids locked away in a room all the time from fear of having to "explain" everything to them? Do you hide dead animals from them too?
"But last week, a lesbian complained that an usher at Safeco Field asked her to stop kissing her date because it was making another fan uncomfortable."
To which the proper reply is "And?" Why do people think it's some sort of right to not be offended or "uncomfortable"? Did the usher stop to think that by singling them out he may have, in fact, been making them uncomfortable?
"The usher, Guerrero said, told them he had received a complaint from a woman nearby who said that there were kids in the crowd of nearly 36,000 and that parents would have to explain why two women were kissing."
Well, isn't that a bitch. Some day you'll have to explain to them about death and where babies come from. Real parents don't shy away from having to explain difficult things to their children.
Oh yeah, it's much harder to explain two girls kissing, than the drunken rabble rousing that goes on. Having some drunken frat boys screaming 'show us yer tit's' to every girl going by is much easier to explain.
Also Jim, your a man who doesn't like to see two girls kissing? What are you, gay?
I'm a strait man, but I can't say I would have much problem seeing women kissing in public. As long as they were hot women. As for the guys kissing, I could just look at something else. So it all works out in the end.
The times, they are a changin'.
Then nature: Environmentally we are accustomed to seeing men and women together as a couple. The intermingling between the same sexes is still a new experience (Even though men and women have been doing it for years.) But what I mean is NOW that gay marriage and gay rights are being placed, we should be seeing some lay way in a matter of....Oh I don't know, a decade or two? Kind of reminds me of the Women's civil rights movement. :D
So here's a tip. Don't prosecute the one's prosecuting. You'll be just as bad as them.
Well, i don,t have kids, so I may be way off, but isn't 'explaining what's going on' as simple as saying 'they,re in love'? When I was a kid, that was enough to make me go 'ewwww!' and stop looking.
"The usher, Guerrero said, told them he had received a complaint from a woman nearby who said that there were kids in the crowd of nearly 36,000 and that parents would have to explain why two women were kissing."
Because they love each other. Next piss-easy question, please.
In the article I read, the women stated they kissed briefly and were eating garlic fries. Chances are, if garlic fries were involved, there wasn't too much kissing.
Maybe it would be a good opportunity to explain to their kids that there are some people that like to kiss people of the same gender, and there's nothing wrong with that. If you are offended by two people of the same sex doing something that you would ignore two people of the opposite sex doing, that makes you a hypocrite. Hope that sentence makes sense.
"I'd bet that all it was was probably a quick kiss or two and people still had a fit over it."
According to the article, that's exactly what the lesbian couple were doing.
Meanwhile, there was apparently a hetero couple a few rows up who were full-on making out.
..but that's ok, 'cause they weren't two women having a quick kiss now and again. *eyeroll*
WHAT a fucko. Typical excuse for being a homophobe, and covering it up with "concern".
However, CalcSwamiS:
Wouldn't seeing that sort of behaviour at a young age (say, 5 or 6) have the "potential" to affect some children? I really wouldn't want to raise the issue of sexuality on my kids until they start to actually develop one of their own, know what I mean? That would be at about ten or eleven.
I'd prefer to let them find out for themselves about that, otherwise you might "confuse" some children, so to speak - I mean, let's face it, very young kids are "innocent" to sexuality of any sort (for want of a better word than "innocent"). They don't need to know abotu this sort of thing until it's relevant (about 10 or 11, again).
If I was in that position with a very young child, I'd respond with "Some people do that; you'll find out when your a little older" and, well . . . explain to them when they're a little older!
Any thouts, CalcSwamiS? Anyone else?
Junior: "Dad, what just happened in the baseball game?"
Dad: "Shut up junior!
Dad: "Can someone please stop the baseball game? I don't want to have to explain what's going on."
I'm finding everyone complaining about PDAs a little irritating and self-righteous, myself. Unless they're crawling over you or making loud noises while you're trying to watch a movie or something, you can just bloody look somewhere else. It's not YOUR public place.
Yes, folks, we even have 'em up here in the Northwest. Can we please send them back to Fundieland?
@redfergus -- Honestly, I'd rather snog than watch the game. The Mariners suck! No, fuck that, I'd rather shag.
So, your homophobia is considered an acceptable reason to prevent two lovers from kissing?
And maybe we should bring back segregation, too, because what if a racist parent doesn't want to have to explain to their kids why that interracial couple is kissing?
@ Teh L0Lz:
Are you fucking serious? Better hide the Disney movies, then.
Kids are impressionable, but they're not mindless and they're not made of glass. They're not going to have some kind of emotional crisis because they saw someone receive a peck on the lips from his/her partner.
Kid: Daddy? Why are those women kissing?
Dad: Well, why do you think your mum and I kiss?
K: Um, because you love each other?
D: Correct, have a lollipop.
Shit, that was hard
I feel slightly uncomfortable with people showing much affection in public, regardless of genders involved.
I get much more uncomfortable when lewd guys grab my behind or "accidentally" tough my breasts.
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