[Why do you reject evolution?]
I base it on four propositions:
1. The universe hasn't been around long enough for evolution to work.
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1. Actually, it has. You are simply unable to comprehend the amount of time the universe has existed so you instead have deluded yourself into believing that it's only 6,000 years old.
1. 13.7 billion years is obviously more than adequate.
1) Only if you think it's as old as the book says, rather than as old as it actually appears to be.
"1. The universe hasn't been around long enough for evolution to work."Certainly not if one is using the Bible to establish the age of the universe. Of course, if one uses the scientific data, there is plenty of time for the ToE to work.
"2. Evolution assumes there's room for improvement."
Indeed. And, as the local environment changes, the ToE says that the lifeforms that best adapt to the new environment will survive best. Why is that a reason to not accept the ToE?
"3. Evolution and death are inseparable."
Certainly, death is part of natural selection. So what? Death is unavoidable whether one understands and accepts the ToE or whether one believes in creationism. All creatures die and whether or not there is an after-life is irrelevant to the evolution/creation question.
"4. The Creator's Son didn't believe in it."
The ToE wasn't developed until hundreds of years after the "Creator's Son" kicked the holy bucket. Nobody in the time that Jesus supposedly lived accepted evolution because they had never heard of it.
Quit being an obtuse butthead and come join us in the 21st century.
1. Contrary to your opinion, the universe has indeed been around long enough for evolution to work.
I'm going to give him a little credit here; this is the honest Creationist answer - 'The Bible says it, I believe it, that settles it'. Any Creationist who comes out with anything else, any bafflegab about Intelligent Design, or Irreducible Complexity or any of that sort of pseudo-scientific BS is lying. They don't believe it. This is what they believe. All else is smoke and mirrors.
Again, cycle arguments. The universe hasn´t been around has been denied recently WITH SOLID MATERIAL PROOFS. And there room for improvement, which is what humanity has been making since the beginning of times(be perfect like God is Perfect, according to Matthew). The last assertions are logical fallacies. Honestly, you may think they´re valid reasons, but you haven´t proved anything.
"1. The universe hasn't been around long enough for evolution to work." 15 billion years for the universe, 4.5 billion for the planet earth, 3.5 billion for multicellular organisms
2. Evolution assumes there's room for improvement. No, Although there certainly is
3. Evolution and death are inseparable. what? indrectly, Evolution and life are inseperable, And life and death are inseperable,
4. The Creator's Son didn't believe in it." Which creator? there are only several billion of them?
1. The universe hasn't been around long enough for evolution to work. 2. Evolution assumes there's room for improvement.
You are proof that there is room for improvement. If evolution was taking suggestions I'd propose putting a brain in that empty skull or removing you tongue and fingers.
3. Evolution and death are inseparable.
Xianism and death are inseparable.
4. The Creator's Son didn't believe in it."
Did you ask him? Based on his book he seemed to focus on ethics and politics, not really on biology.
So you believe in an unprovable creator, and in his supposed son, and you presume to know all that he spoke of, AND you say that you know what his opinion was on studies that were not completed for thousands of years. I'M
1. The universe hasn't been around long enough for evolution to work.
1. The universe hasn't been around long enough for evolution to work. 2. Evolution assumes there's room for improvement.
How about eyes without a blind spot, teeth that actually fit in our jaws so that we don't have to have our "wisdom teeth" yanked out, getting rid of the appendix (an organ which seems to have no function whatsoever except occasionally getting infected and requiring surgery), separating the windpipe and esophagus so choking is more difficult if not impossible ...
I could go on, but you get the idea.
3. Evolution and death are inseparable.
Death is an inevitable part of life, as is evolution (at least regarding life as we know it). In that sense they are inseparable, yes. But by the same logic birth and death are inseparable.
4. The Creator's Son didn't believe in it.
Whoop de fucking doo. The man you believe to be the Creator's Son lived in a time where science was entirely unheard of. It's not surprising that his opinions on scientific matters might be a bit ... out of date.
The universe has been around for billions of years, plenty of time.
Well at least he has the good grace to call them propositions. But assuming your conclusion in your propositions does not exactly make for a convincing argument.
I.e. Proof that all frogs are purple
1. Things that are not purple are not frogs.
I mean, how can you argue with watertight "logic" like that?
1. Obviously 13.7 billion years is just not long enough.
Now go step on a land mine and disappear.
“I base it on four propositions:
1. The universe hasn't been around long enough for evolution to work.”
“2. Evolution assumes there's room for improvement.”
“3. Evolution and death are inseparable.”
“4. The Creator's Son didn't believe in it.”
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