"Don't most of you claim to follow the man who said "love your neighbor as yourself"? I don't remember any exceptions to that one..."
There is one exception. We are commanded to kill the enemies of Jesus (in Luke 19:27).
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Actually, the context of that passage, "But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me" is actually said in the Parable of the Ten Minas. The one about the three servants who were given some of their masters wealth, the first two invested and built on that wealth, and were rewarded, while the third who hid it was beaten and his wealth given to the others. The Full passage is:
"24"Then he said to those standing by, 'Take his mina away from him and give it to the one who has ten minas.'"
"25"'Sir,' they said, 'he already has ten!'"
"26"He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away."
"27But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'""
So in that context, the Enemies of Jesus are those who keep the Lord's word to themselves, rather than using it to better themselves and others.
Hmm.
"We" (Christians today) are not commanded to kill enemies of Jesus in this parable ... first of all, it's a parable (story with a point), not a commandment.
The point is about judgment and whether our (Christians') behavior toward God would make us an enemy or friend of God.
This is certainly not about Christians today killing people whom we (Christians today) deem enemies of Jesus (or even those who self-identify as against Jesus) ... it's about God judging enemies of Jesus and a challenge for us Christians not to be such a person as illustrated in the parable to be adjudged against God.
(One common interpretation, and my opinion.)
I can see where the verse you cited, taken apart from the parable in which it is written, might say this to you. I believe that one of the most common pieces of advice given about the Bible by preachers and teachers in Christianity (fundamentalist and otherwise) is "take verses in context."
Then thank you for admitting that all you right-wing Fundamentalist Christains, who want an Eternal Talibangelist Theocracy of Godsville = ISIS. No Exceptions.
You know that the only possible alternative for you lot is for all of you to become exactly like the Quakers & Unitarian Universalists. And you'll still have to do a major rewrite of your Bible to eliminate every element that makes such even remotely similar to the Quran; certainly if you lot don't want yourselves considered to be part of the 'Abrahamic Religions': Judaism, Christianity & Islam all having the same deity.
Matthew 26:52.
@Canadiest
Like the former leader of the Christian terrorist group, the IRA G erry Adams, J erry has an obsession with the word 'Context'. It's his 'Get out of being argumentally cornered free' card.
So much for these bible verses then.
Matthew 5:43-48
@Ivurm, Anon-e-moose, Thinking Allowed.
Maybe that's part of the 'Liberal Bias' that was supposed to be removed during the Conservative Bible Project. (How is that coming along, BTW?)
No. You want to kill your enemies, and simply claim that is was for Jesus in retrospect. Jesus' enemies, the Pharisees and the Romans, are long since dead, with Christianity playing little part in their downfall.
We are commanded to kill the enemies of Jesus (in Luke 19:27).
I think ISIS has noted a similar exception in the Quran.
Anyway, what good is the Bible if it tells you two different things and you can find an excuse in it for anything you want to do?
A person claims to be a member of a religion of peace, but says he's found an exception that lets him kill people he doesn't like.
@Pink Jackboots
Andy Schaftafly's Conservative Bible Project is still universally derided by all Conservative writers, bloggers, commentators etc.
And regarded by the mainstream Christian churches in the US as nothing less than heresy , as what Andy hass done is nothing less than contravened Revelation 22:18-19, thus he has damned himself.
Is it any wonder he's retreated into what is effectively his own little world...?!
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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