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Just me and Jesus #racist wnd.com

If anything, it’s you black trash who are the “subhumans”. The Bible states that God marked the descendants of Ham (the father of the Africans) and destined them to be eternal slaves of other people. Therefore, God Himself mandated that Africans and their descendants are not true humans, but are to be seen as the potential property of everyone else. Go back to your homeland, or go to your nearest white person and fix their dinner.

Just me and Jesus #racist wnd.com

Just me and Jesus: America was explicitly founded by white people for white people. Everyone else is a guest that we graciously tolerate, but we can evict them at any time if we deem it necessary. As it is, most street Negroes only want to stir up discord and cause trouble for the REAL Americans, so they should not be allowed to stay.

I hope that Black conservative Christians take such values back to Africa and make it less of a sh*thole, but we True Americans need some R&R from these people.

Evapor8tor: Hold on a minute pale-faced a-hole. Native American here and you are not my guest - you're a squatter.

Just me and Jesus: First off, a “Native American” is anyone who is native to America. Since I was born and raised here, I’m just as much a native as you, perhaps even more than you because all of the Founding documents explicitly stated that this country was founded for white Christians and no one else.

Second, your people were (and still probably are) filthy savages who sacrificed their young, brutally butchered the peaceful Europeans who wanted to settle and spread God’s Word to you, and rejected the Word of God in favor of your laughable myths that the earth is on the back of a giant turtle! To top it all off, the vast majority of your people today vote for the Demonrats, who push abortion and sexual deviancy (which I guess I shouldn’t be too surprised about, considering your kind’s history).

Manifest Destiny was easily the best thing that could ever have happened to your kind, and the only reason the white people fought at all was to defend their families from you savages’ attacks on their homes and livelihoods. But I wouldn’t expect a libtard like you to comprehend this.

Michael Pearl #fundie #wingnut nogreaterjoy.org

Q: “Should a mature ten-year-old be allowed to switch a two-year-old if the mother is unavailable, for example, during a temper tantrum?”

A: If a child is not old enough or mature enough to spank the younger sibling, he is not qualified to be the temporary guardian. A child should never be left in the care of one who is not trusted to assume authority to spank when needed. If you can not trust them to execute discipline, then you can not trust them to be the primary care taker of your child. If a child is ever left in the presence of one who does not have full authority, then you are allowing the child a dispensation of unrestrained rebellion. When a child says to another, “You can’t tell me what to do, you are not my mother,” you can be sure the mother can’t tell the child what to do either.

True submission comes from the heart and is not restricted to one or two feared authority figures. Every mature person is consciously or subconsciously aware of an inherent rule of law to which we are all obligated. This is a growing consciousness in children. This understanding is placed in us at creation (Gen.3:22), and is enforced by what we see in nature (Rom. 1: 19-20), and by a direct moral light from Jesus Christ (John 1:9). The child reared in the Christian family has the added light of Scripture and example. Same as adults, children are often tempted to ignore the dictates of conscious and to peruse a course of self-gratification and rebellion. As their understanding of moral obligation emerges, they must be taught and disciplined to follow this law of love and good will. If they are caused to view their obligation as extending no further than their parents, they are given the false impression that their parents are the highest law. They should be taught that there are no exceptions to their obligations; they are never out from under the law of love, decency, goodness, kindness, respect, etc. No matter who reminds them of their duty, whether it be a younger child or a stranger, they should recognize the authority of a law higher than all earthly authority, and bow in submission. To rebel against another who is attempting to enforce that law is to rebel against God who placed this law in all men. A ten-year-old ought to be mature enough to discipline a smaller child. If they are not, one of the things that will help them mature is to give them real responsibility over the small child. If you want to breed hostility and cause divisions in the family, just put a ten-year-old in charge of a four-year- old and forbid the ten-year-old from disciplining the younger child. He or she will despise the rebellious child and resent being put in that position. It is totally irresponsible to all parties involved to place a child under one whose hands are tied. In our house, there was no difference between the parents and the older children in authority over the younger children. I supported the commands of my twelve-year-old over my four-year-old just like I did the commands of my wife.

Lori Alexander #fundie #wingnut thetransformedwife.com

Lori: In 1946, Dr. Benjamin Spock wrote a child raising book that changed parenting styles everywhere. I am going to take some quotes of his and give a response and try to keep it biblical and from what I have seen as a result of his teachings. The majority of Americans still believe that spanking, NOT physical abuse, is still acceptable, thankfully, since they have seen how effective it is in dealing with children’s bad behavior. “In all 50 states and the District of Columbia, you are not forbidden by law to use corporal punishment on your child as long as the form of punishment is reasonable and does not cause injury.”

Dr. Spock: “[Physical punishment] certainly plays a role in our acceptance of violence. If we are ever to turn toward a kindlier society and a safer world, a revulsion against the physical punishment of children would be a good place to start.” (p. 173)

Lori: This is in direct contradiction to what God tells us in His Word. “Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.” (Proverbs 22:15) “Oh, but the rod isn’t a physical instrument,” people will tell me. Really? Please study all of the verses that mention the rod and you will see that this isn’t true.

How does God discipline us? Is He only positive and encouraging? No! “For whom the Lord loves he chastens, and scourges every son whom he receives” (Hebrews 12:6). Chasten means “to correct by punishment; to punish; to inflict pain of reclaiming an offender; as, to chasten a son with a rod.” Scourge means “to afflict for sins or faults, and with the purpose of correction.”

Who are we to think we know better than God? No, God doesn’t mean that we should physically abuse our children in any way. We use the rod of correction as a tool to make them obey and this teaches them self-discipline which benefits them for life. Many things in God’s Word have been taken to extremes and have caused harm for people. This is not God’s way. His way ends in peace and goodness not in evil and harm.

Dr. Spock: “My other reasons for advising against physical punishment are, in brief, that it teaches children that might makes right, that it encourages some children to be bullies, and most fundamentally, that to the degree that it results in good behavior it’s because of the fear of pain. I have a strong belief that the best reason for behaving well is that you like people, want to get along with them, want them to like you.” (p. 173)

Lori: On the contrary, pain and fear are great motivators for good as I shared in the above verse about how God disciplines us. My children were all spanked when they sinned against us or others and none of them were bullies or got into physical fights with others. They were kind to others, respected authority, and were a joy to raise. A one year old can’t comprehend “liking people” as much as they can quickly comprehend a small amount of pain that is swiftly administered for disobedience.

Dr. Spock: “I don’t think physical punishment is necessary or particularly effective.” (p. 215)

Lori: It sure has been for centuries before you wrote your book, Dr. Spock. Children were much better behaved than they are now. God’s ways will always trumps man’s ways.

Dr. Spock: “All schools should be friendly, creative places like the best I’ve seen. We should wean ourselves away from physical punishment.” (p. 33)

Lori: When I went to elementary school, the principal had a wooden paddle in his office and he used it! Children were well-behaved for the most part. There was nothing going on like there is in the schools today. A swat on the back side is a quick, effective method against disobedience. (I just did read that 19 states still allow corporal punishment in schools.)

Dr. Spock: “Recently I visited a small private school . . . with the idea of asking children . . . what advice to parents they’d like me to incorporate in the forthcoming revision of Baby and Child Care. In a thoughtful mood, the class was unanimous that parents should not hit their children. . . One child added that if you’re crying and your parent tells you to stop and then hits you when you don’t stop, it only makes you cry more.” (p. 229-233)

Lori: And asking children how they should be disciplined is a wise thing? If he asked adults how they would like their government to run, I’m sure some immature adults would say that they shouldn’t be put in prison for abusing drugs, driving drunk, and getting tickets for speeding and running red lights. Children do NOT know best how they should be raised. Why not interview parents of adult children who are now upstanding citizens and ask how they raised their children instead?

Dr. Spock: “I hope American parents can outgrow the conviction . . . that physical punishment is necessary to bring up well-behaved children. . . [T]here are parts of the world where it has never occurred to any adult to strike a child. I have known personally or professionally dozens of families in which the parents never lifted a hand–or otherwise punished or humiliated their children–and yet the children were ideally cooperative and polite. Children are eager to be ever more grown up and responsible.” (p. 13)

Lori: Yes, I am sure parents can raise good children without ever spanking them but it takes a lot more time, energy, and effort and to tell you the truth, I haven’t seen many who are successful at it. In order for spankings to work, a parent must be consistent, firm, and loving. It doesn’t work without these three key ingredients.

Dr. Spock: “There are several reasons to avoid physical punishment. It teaches children that the larger, stronger person has the power to get his way, whether or not he is in the right. Some spanked children then feel quite justified in beating up on smaller ones. The American tradition of spanking may be one reason there is much more violence in our country than in any other comparable nation.”

Lori: No, it teaches children that they must obey and respect the authority in their lives, whether they be parents, teachers, coaches, bosses, and government which is a good thing. My children never beat up on the smaller ones. If they did, they would have been spanked and would have never done it again!

Since your book has been practiced, Dr. Spock, violence has sky-rocketed in our nation. No, thank you. I much prefer God’s ways to your ways since God is our Creator who made us and knows the right and perfect way to parent children.

Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying.
Proverbs 19:18

Ryan Messano #sexist #wingnut amazon.com

(Background: Ryan was reviewing Lori Alexander’s book “Biblical Womanhood: A Study Guide”, and I (Suzanne) responded to him. What follows is our exchange.)

Ryan Messano: Having read Lori Alexander's wonderful blog, 'The Transformed Wife' for the past 2 years, it is apparent that she has the principals that virtuous women had a century ago, that made America the prosperous and flourishing nation she became.

Reading her blog is an amazing experience, in seeing the woman that Solomon commended so highly in Proverbs 31.

We are in a stubborn and rebellious society, where Killer Angels, like Margaret Sanger, encourage younger women to be whores, to have sex outside of marriage, to travel, to go to college, to be prostitutes, star in filthy pornography movies, and to get jobs, at the expense of getting married young, and learning to love a husband and children, and care for a home.

Having been raised in a home by a loving and devoted mother, who had 18 children, of whom I was the eldest, and having been given fond and loving memories of a beautiful childhood, it fills my heart with peace and joy to see the precepts that make the loving families, such as the one I was raised in, taught by a Godly woman such as Lori.

May all young women listen to and heed her words, may the men of America return to the honor, wisdom, and virtue we once knew, and may we have a new birth of freedom and virtue, so that liberty's flame may never perish in the United States of America. Without virtuous men and women, liberty must surely be extinguished, and we must all inevitably become slaves.

Suzanne Titkemeyer: Interesting considering you said on Lori Alexander's chat room that you'd not ordered or read the book. Yet here you are writing a review for this book you never ordered or read. Lying is a sin.

Ryan Messano: Wat a hateful liar you are. I never said any such thing, and any one who wants to verify can go to Lori's comments. Further, the book has arrived today, and I'll be reading it. It likely will vary little from the outstanding blogs Lori has written over the last 2 years, which use the same time-honored principles, and apply them in fresh, dazzling, and new ways constantly.

Hopefully you escape from the bondage of your mental slavery.

Suzanne Titkemeyer: Dear Ryan. I have a screen cap of you as "Montesqueue" stating that you didn't read the book but you posted a review. If you click on that particular name it brings one to website for Mesano News, your name. Clearly this is you no matter what you say. Also, anyone Googling you will see you have been hauled out of government meetings screaming homophobic slurs. Repeatedly. Another fake Christian that does not follow the Christ of the Bible. Why would anyone with a functioning brain pay any attention to your words?

Ryan Messano: Dear Suzanne,

Please learn to spell. It's Montesquieu. You are very lazy. The spell check red-lined under your misspelling, suggesting it was misspelled, which it was, and you neglected to check it still. The gist of the study Guide and Lori's posts are the same. Please educate yourself on inductive and deductive reasoning, before blundering into being publicly embarrassed. That said, you leftists are hard to embarrass. You have the hides of Rhinos.

Clearly you have no idea that the leading serial killers in America were all homosexual, and that SCOTUS had no right to legalize the behavior. You've been brainwashed by the schools and media. https://barbwire.com/the-president-attempting-to-de-criminalize-sodomy-the-question-that-needs-to-be-asked-why-is-sodomy-illegal/

Hahaha, I just love being lectured on the Bible by people who don't know it or follow it. What a massive hypocrite you are. If it wasn't for double standards, you leftists would have no standards.

When you learn what wisdom and virtue are, and start to practice them, which is a very tall task for moral midgets like you, then my words will make sense to you.

Suzanne Titkemeyer: Dear Ryan,
Being serious now. It's not healthy to be as angry as you seem and to hold delusional conspiracy theories. Please think about getting help. If money is an issue many communities offer low cost options with a licensed counselor or social worker. You can even request a Christian one. Life is too short to be so miserable.

Ryan Messano: Dear Suzanne,

Righteous indignation is plenty healthy. Being lukewarm is very unhealthy, and ignorance is blissful short term, but quite tragic longterm. As for conspiracy theories, we can discuss those when you actually bother learning actual history, which you appear anxious to advertise you never have.

Your problem is you judge truth on your feelings, which have been leading you astray for quite some time. If someone appears happy to you, which Hollyweird has no problem doing as they lie up a storm, you accept that as truth. Meanwhile, when a person echoes Christ, who was called 'A man of sorrows', you feel that is not true and must be refuted. Lost in your feelings.

The purpose of life was not to feel good. Go learn about the Sophists and Epicureans, and then try to stop imitating them.