If anything, it’s you black trash who are the “subhumans”. The Bible states that God marked the descendants of Ham (the father of the Africans) and destined them to be eternal slaves of other people. Therefore, God Himself mandated that Africans and their descendants are not true humans, but are to be seen as the potential property of everyone else. Go back to your homeland, or go to your nearest white person and fix their dinner.
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Question: Was your… ‘Jesus' a blonde, blue-eyed Caucasian : as in an American of European ancestry…?!
I guess it's an extremely difficult one to answer for the argumentally cornered
You missed the part where it wasn’t Cham who was cursed, but Canaan. Cham’s other children, such as Kush, were not cursed in any way. (That this was a bad idea of Noah’s anyway really ought to go unsaid.)
Pretty much anyone with half a brain who studies the Bible has figured out that the text was Canaan being cursed for molesting Ham, not Canaan getting cursed for Ham gawking at his old man’s balls. It’s also important to remember Hebraic curses aren’t totally universal.
Get out. Go to the nearest black person’s house and fix them dinner as an apology.
Actually, if you read the damned story Noah cursed Ham, not God. And he did it because his son drunk-shamed him.
(Edit: I’m seeing some references to Canaan, which I don’t remember from the story of Noah’s Ark. I guess I’ve got some re-reading to do.)
Africans only became slaves more than a thousand years after that story of seriously skewed morals was ever written. See, round the time Jesus supposedly walked the Earth Africans had kingdoms. Far from being “the servants of servants” from before recorded history Africa is the cradle of humanity and the birthplace of civilization. Even China is willing to admit that (correcting President cheeto-stubs in the process which I have to admit was awesome) and they’re no strangers to ego-stroking revisionist history.
Your butchery of an already dubious story is nothing more than an excuse for the lazy and prideful to elevate themselves above their fellow man to achieve wealth without effort or personal toil. You know, supposedly Godly Christian virtues? You rewrite morality to fit convenience and attribute your self-deification to God. It’s the kind of thing that’s the reason Nietzsche said “God is dead. We killed him.” Slavery had much less to do with divine powers than military might. First buying prisoners of war and changing the very nature of slavery from an already abhorrent individual term of punishment to an utterly inhuman practice of children born of forced breeding (rape in other words) inheriting bondage as a social caste. Then deciding might makes right and just pointing guns at the entire population.
Now get off your ass, stop waiting for a handout from the person you want to use as a footstool while demanding they live to higher standards of conduct and productivity than you ever willingly would, and try being less of a disgrace of a human being. Racists try to ride the coat-tails of the great thinking they’ll be dragged along. All you’re doing is pinning us in place and getting our coat dirty.
I read the Bible and from memory, it was Noah going “Curse you Canaan” because the latter told his brothers that the former was drunk and naked in his tent. This fundie BELIEVES that God is willing to punish a whole bunch of descendants, whose fault it was NOT that their ancestor called Noah out on his drunkeness, which in turn would make God one of the biggest assholes out there. But:
- God probably won’t go through with carrying out that curse, because Noah has sin too. And God also knows what would happen to those people if He went through with carrying out the curse.
- JESUS DIED FOR ALL OUR SINS! ALL PEOPLE ARE SINFUL DISGUSTING BEINGS AND JESUS FORGIVES THEM ANYWAY. In other words, there is no reason to accuse anyone of sin when Jesus can forgive it all.
Also, STOP TRYING TO USE GOD TO JUSTIFY RACISM! God loves all people equally and for you to use the Bible and God to justify YOU being racist towards people makes God look like a total asshole that no one wants to believe in. You will see less people in your religion, which will translate to you seeing more and more people go to Hell.
That’s right, fundie, going by YOUR OWN BELIEFS, you’re basically sending people to Hell by turning people against God by making Him look horrible. But I guess you don’t really care about that, do you. You just want excuses to be an asshole and screw everyone else, right?
Chapter and verse, where it says exactly that? I know Genesis well enough, to know you won't be able to provide it. I mean, how could full brothers be one black, and another white? Even though the Bible does say some pretty dodgy stuff about slavery.
So there you go, white trash.
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