I'm reminded that President Franklin D. Roosevelt felt compelled to sequester Japanese foreign nationals after the bombing of Pearl Harbor and it appears that the threat of harm to America from ISIS now is just as real and serious as that from our enemies then.
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Didn't we also round up everyone of Japanese descent (and even some that just looked Japanese) and put them in camps because we're dirty racists?
We did!
And we're dangerously close to doing that again to Muslims, and anyone who "looks Muslim" (read: Arabic) because we don't fucking learn from our mistakes.
In the wake of some xtian terrorist attacks, maybe we should do the same to them. You know, to prevent another McVeigh, Rudolph, etc.
Maybe send them Guam to live with Pedo Dave.
And in that case, as well as this one, the number of partisans turned up at around....zero.
Mr. Bowers, the internment of Japanese Americans is seen as a shameful event in our history, not something to be proud of.
Frankly I'm frightened for our country where politicians think it's OK to talk openly about shutting down mosques and imprisoning Muslims just for being Muslim, rather than being condemned for such comments by both sides. For all their talk about loving freedom, the conservative right seems more than willing to take it away from people they're afraid of. How long after you get rid of the undesirables do they come after you?
@msd
So that will be virtually zero danger whatsoever and a massive overreaction to demonise and incarcerate an entire community on the off chance that a few of them may possibly have harmful intentions.
Sounds like a South Park episode come to life, doesn't it?
David, the internment of Japanese Americans is considered a very bad thing that is forever a stain on our nation.
If you are looking at it and thinking "what a good idea", you deserve to be locked up.
USA also interned German Americans, only to realise that putting completely normal citizens in a prison camp (for stupid reasons) and mingling them with actual card-carrying Nazis probably wasn't the smartest idea they ever did.
Unfortunately, those who forget the history tend to repeat it.
And yet German and Italian citizens bore no such treatment. At least not on such a scale, not with such undisguised inhumane hatred.
Ethnically Japanese American soldiers got sent on suicide mission after suicide mission only to find that their families had been held in goddamned concentration camps and eveything they owned had been seized. Heroes treated like garbage, their manufactured cultural bent towards absolute loyalty used against their former countrymen and simultaneously abused within their chosen home. They didn't get so much as a "we may have overreacted" until 2013.
Hell, Nazi sympathizers didn't get fucked up the ass so hard. Just ask Prescott Bush. He maintained his freedom AFTER HE PLANNED A THWARTED MOTHERFUCKING COUP D'ETAT! And then both his son and grandson became Presidents of the very country he committed undeniable treason against in war time.
@Passerby : Not on the same scale, but there were indeed roundups of Italians. I interviewed a guy who was a kid when the feds came to take away his dad. He introduced me to other old guys whose families were arrested. They referred to it as "Un storia segreta" - still felt it was an embarrassment to themselves, not to the U.S., to have been mistaken for enemies.
@Demon Duck of Doom
Because gullible fools not too different from NeoMatrix exist and elect them into office.
Yes, he hasn't even posted in this thread and I'm still insulting him. He's earned that reputation.
> I'm reminded that President Franklin D. Roosevelt felt compelled to sequester Japanese foreign nationals after the bombing of Pearl Harbor and it appears that the threat of harm to America from ISIS now is just as real and serious as that from our enemies then.
You know this country handed out an official apology for that, right? And that all the history books refer to it as a mistake, only better than the holocaust because we weren't as efficient about it?
1. We learned very quickly that interning every American of Japanese origin was an absurd overreaction. Strangely, it didn't happen to all Americans of German or Italian origin.
@ Lucilius
The difference is that Italians and Germans - including some who were Jewish refugees - were interned as enemy aliens. The difference with the Japanese-Americans were that they were US citizens, many of them born in the United States.
@Hasan: Many of the Japanese interned were U.S. citizens, but not all; and while most of the Germans and Italians interned were first-generation residents, some were already citizens. Sometimes when the "head of household" was picked up, dependent would be too. Irrational policy was carried out irrationally.
The silver lining here is that finally a US politician does receive some serious backlash for the stupid and unconstitutional things he said. (David Bowers got kicked out of Clinton’s campaign team and people are calling for his resignation.) It’s just a bit strange that it is happening to a Democrat, after all the stuff prominent GOP members have said.
"I'm reminded that President Franklin D. Roosevelt felt compelled to sequester Japanese foreign nationals after the bombing of Pearl Harbor..."
You are correct. Absolutely, one hundred percent correct.
The US also allowed slavery and has a horrible record on treatment of the native population. It's almost as though not everything this country has done is good.
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