[So, a talking snake, a man living in a whale's stomach for three days, a virgin pregnancy and a man walking on water, don't contradict logic?]
So, a talking parrot, three hundred people flying through the sky in a big tin can called a 747, a human being growing inside another person, men walking on the moon, don’t contradict logic? Of course they do, if you are small-minded. However, science and technology have exploded the word. It has a completely different meaning than it had one hundred years ago.
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They DO?? No, because they rely on perfectly explained scientific principles, very much unlike the talking snake, the man in the whale and the virgin pregnancy which have NO explanation at all but the mythical-invisible-sky-fairy's superpowers. Unlike those MYTHS, the other things you mentioned can be REPRODUCED and CONFIRMED very reliably and don't defy logic in any way if you seek the scientific explanation.
What exactly is the point?
Never mind, I still think you are an idiot, so I'll just default to that reaction.
Science and Technology have exploded the world without us knowing it?
Well, of course even with growing tech level the bible example mentioned will contradict logic, whereas the tech examples make already sense with the tech level we have at the moment
True. A talking snake, a man living in a whale's stomach, a virgin pregnancy and a man walking on water can all be easily explained by demagogical means. Which again and again proves to be the christian way. Strange thing, that.
a talking parrot
three hundred people flying through the sky in a big tin can called a 747
a human being growing inside another person
men walking on the moon
Here's the thing Ray. All of the stuff in the Bible that he was talking about are literally impossible, while the things you listed aren't just possible, 4/5 of them happen every single fucking day. Not once have we recorded a snake talking. Nor have we ever seen a virgin birth. Walking on water not that big of a deal since Criss Angel did it. And a whale cannot swallow a human because their esophagus is too small.
Since you couldn't defend your position, we'll also discredit the following:
Joshua stopping the sun by yelling at it.
Since they WEREN'T MEANT TO BE TAKE LITERALLY!!
Oh man...Ray Comfort ALMOST just made sense! Except for the fact that each of his latter examples can be explained more in depth.
These all explain how these things could come about.Of course, one could scarcely say the same about the Biblical lore in question. Given the vocal chords of a snake, the lack of notable protections for Jonah, the logical contradiction of a virgin pregnancy (outside of the ages of artificial insemination), and the physical impossibility of walking on water without special provisions, lead us to believe that these remain logically impossible until given reason to believe otherwise.
Of course not. Those things happen every day and can be explained via well-known, observable phenomenon.
@Bryan65: The story of Samson and the "jawbone of an ass" was mistranslated. It was supposed to read "minigun"
Parrots mimic speech, and some are clever with the correlations.
People, being mammals, are viviparous.
Let's hear it for Wernher von Braun!
Please, let's all keep Ray company in Ignoranceville, where he is the Lord Mayor and alms-collector.
Ray, science and technology [it...?] have not changed meaning since Oog the Elder found a reliable way to make fire. Or was it Ayla? I forget.
Well, see, Ray, we can explain some of those things. (Although I admit I still have doubts about airplanes flying.) Others are unexplainable and beyond belief. Can you tell which are which?
1. Parrots have the physical mechanisms to mimic speech; snakes don't. Science--no logical contradiction.
2. 747s were the end product of nearly 100 years of research and experimentation in aviation. Science--no logical contradiction.
3. Humans reproduce in exactly the same way as nearly every other mammal. There are no surprises here. Science--no logical contradiction.
4. The moon shot was the result of nearly 100 years of research in aviation and 20+ years of research and experimentation in rocketry. Science--no logical contradiction.
Loser.
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My brain, it has melted because of Ray Comfort.
Seriously, I think I lost brain cells having read that three times in an attempt to understand it.
"So, a talking parrot, three hundred people flying through the sky in a big tin can called a 747, a human being growing inside another person, men walking on the moon, don’t contradict logic?"
Not quite the same thing.
... three hundred people flying through the sky in a big tin can called a 747, men walking on the moon, don’t contradict logic?
They would if you claimed they happened 6,000 years ago ...
Hey, Ray, you coulda had him if you knew your scripture.
But like most christians, you don't know it.
How about you get a jew to explain the old testament to you?
Dumbass.
No, those things don't contradict logic, because we know it's possible. It is impossible for a snake to talk and a man to walk on water, however. Unless the water was frozen.
Ray, my man, you are getting closer and closer the edge every time you write. How the hell you come up with such miserable analogies? Do you try to make them ridiculous or does it just come naturally?
Did he really say this?
"Of course they do, if you are small-minded."
So... only if you are small-minded, things like airplanes and pregnancy contradict logic?
This is more explanatory than he intended.
So with a little more scientific advancement, we will soon be able to have virgin births, talking snakes, housing inside of large fish or whales, and walking across bodies of water? Sounds cool!
We could have new Olympic events- maybe a 100 meter dash across a swimming pool?
Animals doing what these animals have always done = not bizarre or unexplained.
747s, basically, operate on the same principle that allows birds to fly. The curved wings force air above the wing to move faster over it than the air below it, effectively causing higher air pressure below the plane than above, allowing the plane itself to "float" as it moves horizontally thru the air.
Pregnancy: A normal feature of all mammals since the beginning of mammals.
Men on the moon: End result of many different types of scientists working very hard for a long time. I don't know exactly how that works, but, there are people around who could show you the equations, numbnuts, it's not a magic trick.
Don't be an idiot.
He's right in that science has made possible what was considered science fiction a few years earlier, but such things are backed up by everyday confirmation. The bible has never proved any of its myths to be true, because they are myths whose continuing existence relies on stupid people like Comfort to believe them.
Each of the examples you've listed (the parrot, the 747, and pregnancy) can be explained by relatively straightforward scientific principles. The other (biblical) examples can not.
You're trying to move the goalposts. The word "logic" has EXACTLY the same meaning it had one hundred years ago. In fact, the meaning of the word hasn't changed one iota in quite some time.
1.) Parrots do not talk, they mimic sounds.
"The story of Samson and the "jawbone of an ass" was mistranslated. It was supposed to read "minigun""
"I thought that was a mistake!! I think he also used a grenade launcher."
ROFLMAOOMGWTFBBQQWERTYASDF
except those things happen every day and we can explain them scientifically. So no, they don't contradict logic.
Also, logic has had an established meaning for hundreds of years, it has not changed.
More crap fundie analogies from one of the masters of fundie stupidity himself. Snakes could talk because jet airliners can fly? Really??
It must be hard to be this stupid and know which end to shit out of.
> a talking parrot
> three hundred people flying through the sky in a big tin can called a 747
> a human being growing inside another person
> men walking on the moon
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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