various commenters #wingnut reddit.com
(Forever2426)
The only question you ever need to ask a pro choice person
At what point does the embryo/fetus magically turn into a real life human baby? Only when it leaves the vaginal canal or is cut out of the uterus during a c-section? At 9 months when the thing is kicking and ready to come out any day? At 8 months when it’s fully formed just not quite big enough?
I asked my (idiotic pro choice) sister this question. Her answer: when the government says so. I was shocked. I then responded: “Yeah governments have never gotten anything wrong in the past. Have you heard of Jim Crow? Have your heard of Hitler? Have you heard of Stalin? Have you heard of slavery?”
She hung up on me.
(PervadingEye)
I think the proper way to deal with this is to say:
"Okay so when the law changes to ban abortion, then you should have no issue then"
This way they have to commit to a position, because they know they don't agree with the law in that case, so they'll have to backtrack and give a reason based in principles rather than offloading the burden to "government".
Probably shouldn't even bring up "government can be wrong. Remember slavery?" That is true, but so long as, "the law" supports their positions, they'll invoke it as an excuse to not come up with a line when it is and isn't okay to abort.
(Andrewski18)
The sad thing is, most prochoicers are fully aware that abortion kills an innocent, living human. They just value casual sex over a human life.
(whoviable)
At least they're being more honest about it. I truly had no idea people advocated for late term abortion until the meltdown of Dobbs and discovered it's the literal Dem platform (danced around with "woman's complete right to choose" language).
This is objectively not popular and I truly think a lot of people don't realize how radical things are. My mom refuses to believe that the party has this stance "because it's so crazy" lol like she truly cannot wrap her head around it and they get away with alot just from people assuming they're not insane lol
Imo only way a majority of people would vote for second and third trimester abortions it is if they think they're voting just for first. It's cruel and manipulative
(spekulatis)
True, and having unsafe sex.