Stephen Hawking is a good example of why scientists should not be allowed to vote, let alone set government policy :
The human failing I would most like to correct is aggression. It may have had survival advantage in caveman days, to get more food, territory or partner with whom to reproduce, but now it threatens to destroy us all. A major nuclear war would be the end of civilisation, and maybe the end of the human race.
This is idiotic. It isn't human aggression that threatens to destroy us all, it is science and scientists. Hawking demonstrates a complete inability to correctly utilize basic logic.
Scientists created the threat. Rather than work to remove the threat, some of the very people who created it now want to EXPERIMENT WITH THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE in order to do something that won't remove the current threat and might well create some that are even worse.
Scientists love to posture as if they are the good guys responsible for saving the human race, but they are the party primarily responsible for endangering it in a variety of ways.
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"Remove the threat"? Well, we could set the way-back machine to ....oh, I dunno, maybe 1400 or so. Wait - wasn't the Black Death in full swing then? OK, you choose. Find a time without a major war or a major disease.
I dare you.
@Bedhead : As were his clothes, his food, his house, the car I'd expect him to own and everything else that makes modern society possible. Funny how they never think of that.
It isn't human aggression that threatens to destroy us all, it is science and scientists.
That's faulty logic right there. That's a little like saying "guns don't kill people, bullets do." The point being, bullets would be useless without guns. And for that matter, the guns would be useless without people wanting to shoot things. The science needed to create nuclear weapons would be useless without the aggression that makes people want to create them.
I mean, I wouldn't as a general rule go to a physicist for sociological advice... I'd go to a sociologist.
Why do people like Vox assume that there's one monolithic "science" and anyone who agrees with every part of it has to agree with every "scientist" about everything?
why scientists should not be allowed to vote, let alone set government policy
Say hello to Prof. Robert Winston.
Author. Broadcaster. Medical Doctor. Surgeon. Eminent Gynaecologist.
He's also a member (for the Labour Party) of the House of Lords: Baron Winston of Hammersmith, and has been a senior member of the Select Committee on Science & Technology, currently Vice-Chairman of the Parliamentary Office of Science and Technology.
As he's the top Gynaecologist in Britain, he's also studied Genetics.
Better pray that you don't come down with some new, exotic & bizarre - certainly infinitely painful - form of Cancer that can only be potentially cured by Gene Therapy, VD.
I have at least average reading comprehension abilities, but I'm not sure I read this correctly. Is VD actually stating, in a public forum, that scientists shouldn't be allowed to vote? Did my brain process that correctly?
I knew VD was a stupid, hateful imbecile, but I'm a bit surprised that he actually stated that scientists not be able to vote. It's most likely that because of medical science that he's even here, above ground, to annoy us all with his stupidity. He's another loathsome individual whose obituary I look forward to reading.
... The "super-intelligence" hates science. The science-hating "super-intelligence" who tries to say science justifies his hatred of everything and his warped suggestions for "saving" the human race via all kinds of racism and social engineering.
God you're a fucking tool.
Vox Day is a good example of why pseudointellectual megalomaniacs who believe that scientists should not be allowed to vote, let alone set government policy,should not be allowed to vote, let alone set government policy.
MAD is blatantly absurd to anyone who is not an evil soulless psychopath like Vox Day who places no value in life at all, caring only about his sick power fantasies of deciding over life and death and, perhaps, defeat ing the other team. Without abominations like you, there would be no one to commission or realise such doomsday devices.
Yes, our technology has had, and still has, devastating effects (not that you believes in anthropogenic climate change or care about environmental destruction, anyways) - because we did not know what we were doing, or worse, just don't care. The only way to find solutions to the problems of the world is from comprehension, and the only source for this comprehension is science.
Finally, why bother with trying to maintain a farce of democracy at all? As vocal about disenfranchising huge portions of society as Mr. Zoopainntellijens is, even bloody North Korea would appear legitimate compared to his dystopia.
It isn't scientists or science that endangers humanity, no, it's idiotic anti-intellectualists (like you) who don't know how to handle it that are the true threat.
Science by itself isn't dangerous. Far from it. It's how morons like you use it that makes it dangerous.
Seriously, of all fundies, anti-intellectualists are the ones I understand the least. And that's saying something.
"MAD is blatantly absurd to anyone who is not an evil soulless psychopath like Vox Day who places no value in life at all, caring only about his sick power fantasies of deciding over life and death"
Vox Day: "Prison inmates are treated to cable TV, hot meals and a college education, while on the outside some people can only afford these things through a life of crime!"
"This is idiotic. It isn't human aggression that threatens to destroy us all, it is science and scientists. "
Right, they invented the atomic bomb. And dynamite. And steam engines and electricity. And the internet.
Sounds like someone doesn't like being called out upon his bullshit by actual scientists who know what they are talking about. Look, we know that you are an unrepentant sociopath who thinks of himself as the smartest person alive, but sadly for you, the only thing you are is a victim of the Dunning-Krueger effect. Just leave your computer and make yourself a new home in a cave.
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