RE: Female models make more than male models
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40EzF-a-pa8
1:38 seconds in, they admit that women make 10 times as much as men. Females want equality, yet when it comes to modeling the males don't get as much and they don't get any kind of defense.
I know many former models and they weren't happy they were getting paid far less.
Whenever I'm talking to a feminist about the gender pay gap myth, I always make this offer:
"Let's do this: you feminists go solve the gender pay gap in the modelling industry. When you've done that, show us how you did it and I promise we'll look seriously at rolling that same solution out across other industries".
I've never received an intelligent, considered response to that proposal from any feminist. Mostly they just swear at me and call me a misogynist, which is good because it reveals just how seriously they aren't taking the "problem" we know as the gender pay gap myth.
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In almost ALL other fields in the world, men make more than women for doing the same kind of job. In this ONE particular field, women make more for doing more work. You know why they make more? Because men pay more to look at women.
There are billions of women making less than men for the same kind of job, and none of them are happy either, dingbat!
NO-NO-NO-NO-NO!!! First we solve the gender gap in many of the other MILLIONS of work-fields. THEN men can do more half-naked modelling jobs, and get more pay.
You are clearly too stupid to recognize an intelligent considered response.
You ARE a misogynist! Don’t want to be called a misogynist? See that ONE reversed gender pay gap does not cancel out the millions of male-over-female gender pay gaps!
Female models make more than male models
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There’s one other field where the top earners are women, and women in general are paid more than men: Porn stars.
While there’s a tiny kernal of a point buried in there, it’s not a good-faith argument. There’s a certain irony in men demanding women to solve all of their problems in exchange for allowing women’s problems to even be solved. And even if feminists were to accomplish that, goalpost-shifting would be the best that they could expect in return.
Unlike in most professions the contrast there actually does have something to do with a difference in revenue generation. And probably also that it reinforces the worst notion of what women are expected to see as a personal ideal for themselves: Something pretty to be desired by men before their “shelf life” expires and nothing sustainable beyond that whereas the women’s soccer league outperforms the men’s in the US and has generated more revenue yet the actual players don’t see as much money as the men and are maligned by idiots who can’t shut up about one loss in an under-15 charity match.
They tend to change the subject when I ask where their calls were to dismantle the entire league were when the NBA “dream team” lost to a bunch of students and why that’s not an indictment of men everywhere as they wish it to be for women.
@Niam2020 #32048
Credit where appropriate: I know that modeling is a hell of a lot more work than most of these envious dipshits would realize let alone attempt themselves. You earned that body, you work like hell to keep that body, and every aspect of your life and self presentation probably has it’s own coach or somebody that thinks they’re your coach barking in your ear all day from what you eat to how exactly you smile and make conversation.
So, respect man.
Yeah, I have gotten to know a few male models (some… closer than others) and it was always quite the enlightening experience. The pressure to monitor everything you do, from what you eat, to when you workout, to the modeling himself, knowing that for most models (especially male ones) there is a limited time frame to become successful… and of course it is true that comparably successful male models don’t get as much money as female ones. It’s a very tough job, and not at all what some people seem to think it is (i.e. just looking pretty). I respect people who choose such difficult career paths.
I did ask them why exactly male models get less money than female ones. The answer was: Same reason women also get more in porn. Because the audience is either heterosexual males who only care for peak perfect looking women, or women who think that ‘if I wear the things/ do the things that these models do, men will like me as well’. Sure, some women (and admittedly, men like me) also like to look at beautiful guys, but in the end the market is very much skewed towards presenting women in the most right-wing conservative way possible, often with the unfortunate implication that beauty is their only worthwhile trait, and that it’s the only worthwhile goal to strive for. So using this as an argument that ‘Women get more than their male counterparts in these professions! The wage gap is a myth!’ is extremely dishonest, because the reason for that is in itself sexist as hell.
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