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For example, some unpopular opinions I have that I'll never say in public:

1. There probably isn't a rape culture: There's a culture where we let 18 year olds get black out drunk and men are encouraged to be the aggressors in sexual encounters, so bad things happen. But throwing 18 year old men in jail for years at a time for groping someone is not the right answer.

2. 77 cents on the dollar is a nonsense statistic: it doesn't adjust for hours worked, career, flexibility, etc. If you adjust for those things it's more like 98 cents on the dollar, and there's very little evidence of sexism in the workplace. The debate should be about whether it makes sense that women tend to take lower paying jobs with more flexible hours because of their role in childcare.

3. The shooting of black men is a distraction from the real issue. The real issue is lack of access to education and opportunity for blacks that leads to them ending up on the street. Many of the victims of police attacks were criminals who were pulled over/scared officers for a reason. We're asking the police to do too much to fix the problems created by our educational system.

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1. Men being encouraged to be the aggressors in sexual encounters IS exactly what rape culture is, noob. There shouldn't be aggression at all, in an encounter of attraction, pleasure, and often love. Only a few percent of rapists ever see the inside of a jail cell, that's also part of the rape culture. Why do you focus on 18-year-olds, btw? Most people are raped by a husband, father, brother, colleague, and those rapists are usually over 18. Oh, and the right answer is to refrain from groping people who haven't asked you to grope them.

2. Do you mean that women work many more hours per day than men? Sure, not all of that is paid work, so that's even worse. Women usually have to be flexible, with so many pulling on them (work, spouse, children, daycare, school, older relatives, etc). I'd say YOU are blind to the sexism, because it very seldom bothers YOU. Who should be doing the lower paying jobs, according to you? Or should we manage without nurses, waitresses, teachers, cooks, bus-drivers, cleaners, etc? Women's role in childcare is like that, because most men refuse to accept THEIR role in childcare.

3. On the street? Philando Castile sat in his car, and was asked to take out the driver's license. When he reached towards the glove compartment to take out the wallet, he was shot and killed. Botham Jean was shot and killed in his own home by an off-work cop who walked into the wrong apartment.
People are simply asking the police to de-escalate bad situations into good situation (not create bad situation out of innocent situations). That should be part of THEIR education. And yes, you do have serious problem with your education system in the US, and the DeVos hag is not going to improve that...

“For example, some unpopular opinions I have that I'll never say in public:”
Because you’ll get your shit packed in.

"There probably isn't a rape culture: There's a culture where we let 18 year olds get black out drunk and men are encouraged to be the aggressors in sexual encounters,”
SO, blame the women for men raping them. But there’s no rape culture.

“so bad things happen. But throwing 18 year old men in jail for years at a time for groping someone is not the right answer.”
And rape apologist. We want men to NOT VIOLATE WOMEN. SO we punish men for VIOLATING WOMEN> You want men to get away with VIOLATING WOMEN.
But there’s no rape culture.

“77 cents on the dollar is a nonsense statistic: it doesn't adjust for hours worked, career, flexibility, etc.”
How in the fuck do you adjust wages for ‘flexibility?’ And buddy, women are the flexible hires. NO matter what they’re hired for, the boss will tend to treat them as the secretary, caterer, or maid. They will be the one assigned to organize refreshments or to clean up the conference rooms. Men will just automatically have the woman run the birthday card around or order the monthly birthday-for-everyone cakes. The shortfall is much greater than you’re willing to admit.

“If you adjust for those things it's more like 98 cents on the dollar,”
Feel free to show your math. And remember it’s for all employed women, not one or two businesses.

“and there's very little evidence of sexism in the workplace.”
Secretary, caterer, maid.

“The debate should be about whether it makes sense that women tend to take lower paying jobs with more flexible hours because of their role in childcare.”
Oh, wow. My supervisor is the one to take his kids to the dentist or doctor because his wife doesn’t get as much PTO. My supervisor’s manager is the one to take is son to soccer and medical appts. Our new hire is late to work every day taking his daughter to school choice, and picking her up every day.
You are talking total bullshit here.

“Many of the victims of police attacks were criminals who were pulled over/scared officers for a reason. We're asking the police to do too much to fix the problems created by our educational system.”
Weird how I’m supposed to be totally rational when a cop loses his temper, but all HE has to do is shout ‘fear for my life’ and he can empty a clip into a 9 year old.
And, yes, too much is dumped on cops, but when we want to defund the cops to use the money for those services, cops lose their fucking minds. You want the job because you want the money, then do the job and stop complaining.