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RE: Trans "women" are still required to be registered for the US draft.

( WatcherattheGates )
So, in the end, the government actually does know sex is more important than gender.

( MiMi2013 )
Which makes me wonder exactly why DC is so eager to force trans "girls" aka BOYS into the spaces reserved for actual girls at our schools. It almost seems as if they know they're putting real girls at risk by playing these semantic games, and as if there's some secret, sinister motive behind it...

( Iceni )
Sure.

If TIMs inconvenience women the United States government doesn't care. If TIMS inconvenience the United States government, the US government cares.

( Hollyhock )
There were a few wildly naive stories on the poor TiPs in Ukraine. One was told about a poor TiM who couldn't leave the country because he was a 6'2 20something male. How could he fight as 'a girl' ? I don't know, maybe use your upper body strength to help carry victims on stretchers to the hospital? Another was a story about a poor TiF who worried she'd be turned away at the border as she looked male. She wasn't, she was allowed to leave along with her mother, but guess being a man only matters when there's not a war raging.

Meanwhile, teen girls stayed behind to drive trucks and elderly women took training on how to shoot guns. I even read of a mother who brought her two small children to safety in another country where her sister was living, then returned back to fight alongside her husband.

( neonbandit )
These examples are just further proof that one still keeps their male/female privilege while they pretend to be the opposite sex.

The TiF wants to be perceived as male until it means putting her life on the line, then she is suddenly ok with being female. . . a card all the Ukranian men couldn't play, not even the TiM.

The TiM wants to self ID into that female privilege but when a country is under siege, they need all the man power they can get. They can't afford to play into someone's gender delusions. It would also create a massive loophole for deserters to claim trans to get out of fighting. A loophole similar to the get out of men's prison and cheat in women's sports that we have now. But only women are harmed by those loopholes so that's ok!

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More anti-trans who refuse to see past the surface.

There were a few wildly naive stories on the poor TiPs in Ukraine. One was told about a poor TiM who couldn't leave the country because he was a 6'2 20something male. How could he fight as 'a girl' ? I don't know, maybe use your upper body strength to help carry victims on stretchers to the hospital? Another was a story about a poor TiF who worried she'd be turned away at the border as she looked male. She wasn't, she was allowed to leave along with her mother, but guess being a man only matters when there's not a war raging.
Meanwhile, teen girls stayed behind to drive trucks and elderly women took training on how to shoot guns. I even read of a mother who brought her two small children to safety in another country where her sister was living, then returned back to fight alongside her husband.

Ahhh so according to TERF logic, some trans people tried to escape Ukraine, therefore all trans people are *cowards? You have no clue how many trans people stayed behind to help, you have no clue what it’s like to have evacuate somewhere in a limited time potentially in the middle of the night and you have no clue what it’s like to be trans, let alone any combination of the above.

*ETA: I’m not saying that anyone who runs from an approaching invasion is a coward but I definitely feel that’s what these TERFs are saying.

Personally I think that’s kind of stupid, to prevent people from fleeing, regardless of the reason. For one thing, if someone is genuinely a coward: while some of them might change later, others might make things worse, stealing, sabotaging efforts, even occasional murder or outright betrayal if they think that’s what it will take to survive. Other people might make the calculation that they’d just be dead weight and will probably die uselessly, or that they’d be more useful working from the outside, and they might even be right. Still others might have personal or family reasons for leaving which they would be expected to honor. The idea that people (or at least people who are presumed to be men) can be railroaded into heroism doesn’t work so well in real life.

Though in the case of trans people specifically, being openly trans (or being in a “glass closet” where everyone can see that you don’t conform to gender norms very well regardless of your trying to hide it) is such an anti-privilege that you can hardly blame some trans people from grasping at the supposed privileges of either or both genders when they’re desperate enough. And if it works, that doesn’t erase how things are under more normal circumstances.

I am against a draft. However everyone who wants to serve in the military and passes all the requirements should be allowed to serve.

“So, in the end, the government actually does know sex is more important than gender.”
No. Transgendered women who serve on submarines are treated as women and have access to the (very few) ladies rooms on board.
This is just one agency, and i have to assume they’re worried that IF a draft comes back, many of the men will declare themselves transgender to avoid it. This is just administrative, to get a rough count of bodies.
If they get the draft notice, and show up with the documentation of treatment for longer than two weeks, they’ll be accepted as women for military purposes.