A baby's cry should, according to Evolutionist dogma, provide for a survival mechanism. If this is so, why does a newborn baby's cry irritate and annoy to no end?
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Well, seeing as it can't take care of itself, it needs *some* way to alert the parents that it needs something. The more irritating the cry, the more effective it is at preventing you from ignoring it.
"why does a newborn baby's cry irritate and annoy to no end?"
So you make it stop, idiot. If it sounded like music, you could poke it with a sharp stick to keep the party going. If that was the case, how long would we be around? Damn
The reason why babies actually cry is so the mother starts producing milk. The breast and a babies cry actually evolved together. There is a mechanism within the breast so that the sound waves from a babies cry trigger the breast to start producing milk. This is so that everytime the baby cries, which is normally when they need the milk, milk will be ready and waiting for them.
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I've spent the past few days reading the posts in the archives that have been awarded prizes (what else should I do while bored at work?), and up to now I haven't bothered to comment on any. They're so old, why bother? Laughing was enough. Until this one.
As a mother, I just couldn't let this one go.
BibleThumper obviously isn't a parent. And especially not a mother. If so, he/she would know what the hell he/she is talking about. Since he/she doesn't, I will take this opportunity to enlighten him/her.
A baby's cry may be annoying to the random looker on, but to that child's mother it evokes a completely different reaction. The cry of a child - YOUR child - provokes a nearly-overwhelming urge to provide for said child...to get it whatever it needs to make the crying stop. This isn't a need for the kid to shut up. It's a need and reaction brought on by the emotional/biological connection mothers have with their offspring. Mothers are biologically set up to hear that cry and respond to it. This might not be true of other people's children, since that connection is not present, but it is *definitely* true of their own children.
That cry you find oh-so-annoying does not sound the same to the mother of the child making the noise. Sure, we find it loud and obnoxious. But our first instinct is to find out what the child needs and make sure they get it.
A survival mechanism? Hell yes it is. They cry when in pain, when sick, when hungry, when they need their diapers changed (which actually *can* affect their health if it is left long enough)... There are a miriad of reasons why a child might suddenly start to shriek. Despite what you Fundies think, none of those reasons are because the child is "evil" or "just acting out".
What you apparently don't know, BibleThumper, is that the voices of a baby's parents are what it hears most while in the womb (other than the general noises of the mother's body that surrounds it), and they help shape the way the child will sound when it is born. A baby's vocal patterns are modeled after the voices of its parents. (And yes, SCIENCE - real, true science - backs this up.) Their speech patterns, their laughter...Even their crying. It mirrors that of their parents. So that same screaming you find ear splitting won't affect the parents in the same way.
It IS a defense mechanism. Just because it's not aimed at YOU doesn't make it anything less. You aren't supposed to respond to, say, the screeching of my daughter when she's teething and in pain. That's what *I*, her mother, am there for.
Learn what you're talking about before you comment. You won't look like such a jackass that way.
Man, I don't like kids at all, and will never have any... but while a newborn's crying annoys me because of the noise , I'll still try to help it. Because, you know, it's crying because it needs something.
Please never have kids. Some people just shouldn't . You're one of them.
To the mother, it means something's wrong, and fix it. Even to the bystander, it means that something's wrong...there's that urge to hunt down the parent and make them DO something.
Thus it works.
So you'll get off your fat fuckin ass and shut the thing up, via: (A)feeding it, (B) giving it attention, or (C) wiping its ass
and Kudos to Poisoned Rationality.
way to completely misconstrue evolution.
the idea is that it tells the parents something is wrong, and annoys the parents into taking care of it. if it sounded like beautiful music, people would probably let the babies cry just for the music.
Hear anoying cry - get urge to do something about it - act on that urge - annoying cry stops.
If you choose to have a baby, you also choose to have that baby annoying you with its crying.
“A baby's cry should, according to Evolutionist dogma, provide for a survival mechanism.”
You’ve clearly never spent a few hours in the small hours of the morning trying to diagnose a baby’s cry. Trying food, cuddling, change of diaper, change of clothes, change of bedding, soft music, rock music, burping, bathing, ANYTHING to stop the sound.
NOT because the sound is annoying but because there’s something wrong and your child is telling you in the only way it can.
It’s very much a survival mechanism.
"If this is so, why does a newborn baby's cry irritate and annoy to no end?”
Good question. Now, if evolution is NOT true, why did GOD make babies with such annoying cries? We’re made in God’s image. God sends (apparently) hurricanes to say ‘stop tolerating gays’ and sends earthquakes to say ‘stop voting democrat’ and wildfires to say ‘stop abortions.’ Why WOULDN’T a baby’s cry be fucking annoying?
Of course, once my kids were old enough to take care of themselves, i find baby cries much less annoying. I sit there on the plane KNOWING it’s not a problem I need to solve. I would help if i could, if they ask for any assistance, but i’m not particularly annoyed by the poor thing.
Maybe you should try looking at it that way?
Confused?
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