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islamics believe in "allah". Allah means "moon". Basically they believe hes a god of the moon. which is ridiculous. They DENY Jesus Christ as lord and saviour. And by denying Christ, makes them and anyone else anti-christ. I dont know where you heard that they worship Christ. They are fully against him, and kill anyone who is for him. What church are you going to? what bible are you reading? Not the same one as me, obviously. i don't mean to turn this into a religion flame topic, I just can't stand seeing people back up such EVIL.

Jehovah my God, and saviour is far from the name of "allah". I don't even capitalize allah, its a piece of trash. Same with the islamic religion.

Heres a question for you. What positive things do you see coming from the islamic nations? none. Infact, this whole stupid war is because of those morons. It's not a war between nations, it's a spiritual war. Its the fight against Satan, and the struggle to defeat him.

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old comment by Redhunter

"by denying Christ, makes them and anyone else anti-christ"
Are you sure you know the differnce between being, anti-christ, and The Antichrist? Read once in a while. Then you would know that allah, elohim, alaha, yahweh, el, and many others all stem from pagan, pre-jewish, pre-muslim and of course, pre-christian societies. You explain to everyone what positive things that christians have given us? Pear-shaped torture devices for splitting open three different bodily orifices? Stoning? Abortion snipers? Witch burning? A revamped Hell? Lethal doses of guilt? Divine cannablism? Why don't you follow the nicer things of your bible like not casting judgement, doing unto others as you would have them done to you and forgiveness and mercy, instead of inflaming other religions against you?

old comment by Zadic

Actually they believe Jesus was a profit who deserves their respect, but he was not the only profit and since Muhammad came later they put more stock in what he said. That and unlike with Jesus we actually know he was a real person. In general they have thought more highly of Christians and Jews than others due to them all being religions which their's was based off of and so the three groups actually share a lot of the same beliefs even if they will not admit to it. However, just as you have Christians spouting hate about Jews to the point where we even have to remind people that Jesus was born Jewish in your folklore, you have Islamic people who spout hate about Christians. They do not represent their entire religion past, present, or future no more than you speak for the mind of every Christian when you rant about their moon god. Also, I think you seem to be mixing being anti-West with anti-Christianity. Believe it or not, but they're not one in the same.

old comment by WritingIsMyReligion

"islamics believe in 'allah.'"
A follower of Islam is a Muslim, not an "Islamic." "Allah means 'moon.'" "Allah" means "god" in Arabic, fuckwit. Not "moon." "They DENY Jesus Christ as lord and saviour. And by denying Christ, makes them and anyone else anti-christ." So basically the vast, vast majority of the world is out to get you? Anti-Christians? Oh, and Muslims do not deny the existence of a Jesus Christ, only his importance. They believe he was a prophet, and a fairly important one at that, but not the messiah. "They are fully against him, and kill anyone who is for him." Mirror, mirror... "Heres a question for you. What positive things do you see coming from the islamic nations?" Oh, you know, the whole influence for the Renaissance. Algebra, aspects of astronomy, the concept of zero... And on, and on, and on. On Edit: For those of you wondering about the concept of zero, several cultures developed it at approximately the same time, including the Arabic and Mayan ones. The Europeans got it from the Arabic lands, though.

old comment by Matilde

Most informed critic on another religion. Allah is the same root as Elohim, the name of God in the first version of the Bible and means God NOT MOON. Second, They don´t consider Jesus the son of God, ok, but they consider it the best prophet ONLY BELLOW MOHAMMED. And they respect the virgin Mary in a high regard. And let´s face some positive things about islamic religion. I have lived three years in a islamic country and I can tell you that they are very good people, of course, their theology may have points with which I don´t agree but they are very close to us. And something else, they brought the ancient world in Europe, when your ignorant ancestors decided to go back to the cavern.

old comment by Coffee

Here's a story for y'all: I spent Christmas in Kuwait in 1984. The Emir had banned public religious Christmas celebrations in hotels, restaurants, etc., to prevent religious violence. I attended a party at a hotel where a Christian school choir was singing with the understanding that only secular music was permitted--no hymns or carols: "Jingle Bells" was fine, "Little Town of Bethlehem" was not.
Well, at the end of their performance, the choir launched into "Silent Night." My mother leaned over and whispered, "We're all going to be arrested." Looking around, I saw a group of young Kuwaiti men standing at the back of the room, listening to the choir. Several of us Americans hurried back there to try to persuade them not to call the police. One of the young men, speaking perfect English, said that he had attended college in the U.S., and loved hearing Christmas carols as they brought back fond memories. He also said he was the nephew of the Emir, and not to worry about the police. The result was that the Kuwaitis started requesting Christmas carols, and the choir sang them all. Everyone had a good time and no one was arrested. I think of incidents like that when I hear people call all Muslims EVIL.

old comment by [url=http://mad-dog-land.ifastnet.com]madDog[/url]

banning a religious holiday to prevent violence? In other countries, they actually try to arrest and stop the trouble makers. But I guess the troublemakers and fanatics are more important people than everyone else in Kuwait. I mean this sounds like a weak leader if he is afraid of some loser dirtbag criminals in his own country. A true leader stands by their principles.
Or the other side of the coin might be is that the president of Kuwait is actually on the side of the extremists, but just denies it because he knows that the west would get angry if he was upfront. In other words, he is probably pretending to be nice as part of good P.R. with the west. Keep in mind that the USA and various European countries have worked with Kuwait for quite some time. Not all muslims are evil, just many of them (lets be honest here) kinda like medieval catholics.

old comment by Maronan

islamics believe in "allah".

The word you're searching for is "Muslims," not "islamics."

Allah means "moon".

No, Allah means "God." Arabic Christians refer to God as "Allah."

Basically they believe hes a god of the moon. which is ridiculous.

No, they don't. Muslims believe in a magic creator god this is also ridiculous, but it's the same thing you do.

They DENY Jesus Christ as lord and saviour.

Muslims recognize Jesus Christ as Allah's second prophet. You DENY Jesus Christ as Allah's prophet! It makes me want to laugh and cry at the same time to think that these two groups are fighting wars over whether a guy who probably didn't exist is a magic sky fairy's son or his prophet.

And by denying Christ, makes them and anyone else anti-christ.

Aaah! They don't agree with me! They must be out to get me! Aaah! Stick your head into the sand and maybe all the nasty evil facts will go away!

I dont know where you heard that they worship Christ.

I don't know whether Muslims worship Christ, though I doubt it. They do, however, consider him important. Jesus isn't as important as Mohammed, but he's God's second prophet, so he is important to some extent.

They are fully against him...

No, Muslims consider Jesus to be God's second prophet.

...and kill anyone who is for him.

Most Muslims don't kill anyone.

What church are you going to? what bible are you reading? Not the same one as me, obviously.

I don't go to any church, I'm reading the KJV and NKJV Bibles (partly for my lit course and partly to argue down fundies) and I don't see how you can claim that I must be reading a different bible because I disagree with you. Of course, this was directed at someone else, but I answered it anyway.

i don't mean to turn this into a religion flame topic, I just can't stand seeing people back up such EVIL.

I don't want to seem hateful or intolerant, but I hate everyone who disagrees with me and I think they're an evil we shouldn't have to live with! Heh, sort of like the "I'm not a racist, but..." remarks.

Jehovah my God, and saviour is far from the name of "allah".

If you spoke Arabic, you would call your god "Allah."

I don't even capitalize allah, its a piece of trash.

It's also a name. Names are capitalized. I capitalize the name of your god even though he doesn't exist. (I don't, however, capitalize his pronouns the way the religious like to, and the phrase "your god" does not refer to him by name if your pet cat is named Cat for some stupid reason, I would say "your cat" without a capital letter, but would call him Cat, capitalized.)

Same with the islamic religion.

Names of religions are also capitalized. You're not being a good Christian, you're just being gramatically incorrect.

Heres a question for you. What positive things do you see coming from the islamic nations?

They brought a lot of advanced civilization to the Christians in Europe. Unfortunately, the Muslim world has lagged behind ever since the Christians attacked and battered them.

none.

If it weren't for the Muslims, you might not even have the concept of zero.

Infact, this whole stupid war is because of those morons.

Which war? The war in Iraq that was started when a Christian decided to attack a secular Muslim-majority nation for no reason? The one between Israel and the surrounding nations that started when a Christian-majority nation took Muslim land as colonies then decided to plop a Jewish settlement on it? The abstract "War on Terror?" That's a nonsense phrase, although Bush has convinced loyal Christian morons that there is a War on Terror which is, it would seem, a war against evil Muslims.

It's not a war between nations, it's a spiritual war.

Um, yeah. Thank you for coming clean and confessing that Christianity is a violent religion that declares "spiritual wars" against large demographics based on no reasons other than the delusions of the believers.

Its the fight against Satan, and the struggle to defeat him.

There are a lot of stupid wars that are fought because of morons who think they're fighting Satan and doing Gawd's work.

old comment by Anonymous

"islamics believe in "allah". Allah means "moon". Basically they believe hes a god of the moon. which is ridiculous.

What is ridiculous is your claim that MUSLIMS worship the moon, which they don't.

They DENY Jesus Christ as lord and saviour. And by denying Christ, makes them and anyone else anti-christ.

Muslims don't see Jesus as the Messiah, but they do revere him. They believe him to be a great prophet, like the Jews do.

dont know where you heard that they worship Christ.

I don't know, maybe from the Koran, their holy book? Where did you hear that they didn't worship Jesus? Did the little voices in your head tell you that?

are fully against him, and kill anyone who is for him.

As opposed to radical, fundamentalist Christians who kill anyone who they see as against Jesus, even if it's a fellow Christian?

What church are you going to? what bible are you reading?

Oh, to live in a world where that wouldn't matter...

Not the same one as me, obviously.

No, most of us haven't read the Holy Book of Ignorance and Hatred.

i don't mean to turn this into a religion flame topic, I just can't stand seeing people back up such EVIL.

Speak for yourself, you self-righteous jerk.

Jehovah my God, and saviour is far from the name of "allah". I don't even capitalize allah, its a piece of trash. Same with the islamic religion.

Allah and Jehovah are one and the same, you stupid twit.

Heres a question for you. What positive things do you see coming from the islamic nations? none.

I'll bet the Bush administration sees something very positive coming from the Islamic nations: oil.

Infact, this whole stupid war is because of those morons. It's not a war between nations, it's a spiritual war. Its the fight against Satan, and the struggle to defeat him."

No, it's a war of misunderstandings, ignorance, greed, and blind hatred on both sides. War is not black and white, no matter what lies you may tell yourself.

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