No one can explain how evolution works because it violates several scientific laws (angular momentum, conservation of mass, first law of thermodynamics, second law of thermodynamics, Boyle's gas law, inverse square... just to name a few). Of course, if I was an evolutionist, I'd know that theories overrule laws.
Atheists are generally just bitter people who like to create problems where there are none.
I swear, a world where EVERYONE is christian is A LOT better than a world where a few genetic deficient athiests try to stir up trouble where it shouldnt be.
[IMO, All these scientific theories that scientists come up with are just as founded on faith with no evidence as any religions.]
Wow, someone else agrees with me.. that's a surprise. To say that we all came from rocks (or from Mars, whichever version of evolution you want to take) takes a great deal of faith to believe. If you can look at some science objectively, without the bias (and very few people do) you can see that there is a LOT of evidence for a FLOOD in the world.... and the whole geographical column is nothing but circular reasoning.. you date the bones by the rock, and you date the rocks by the bones... where is any science in that? I have even heard of a scientist use the word MAGIC to describe how something came to earth.. because using the term MAGIC would fit his theory... honestly, how credible is the guy if he resorts to that kind of logic and belief?
[Topic title: Why I'll take the bible's word over a scientist's/historian's/etc. word.]
It seems to me that every time we have evidence that seems to prove the bible wrong or contradict the bible, or there's a lack of evidence for something in the bible, that eventually, the bible has always proven true.
For example:
People thought that the Hittites didn't exist, but guess what, we discovered the Hittite civilization.
Also, when Mt. Saint Helen erupted it caused rapid formations that scientists thought took long periods of time.
I will come back with more examples later. But my point is that when the bible has been challenged, with time it has always proved true.
So that's why right now, when there's supposed evidence for an old earth, or something else that scientists say is true that contradicts the bible I'm not going to throw away the bible and say that it's inaccurate. Or start trying to fit an old earth into the creation story.
So some might say that I'm ignoring the evidence, but truly I'm paying attention to the greater evidence, which is the bible, which with time has been faithful to stand up to criticism and prove true.
No, I do not hate gays, and neither do most other Christians. In fact, we love gays, and we wouldn't speak out against homosexuality if we didn't. Because if we truly hated them, we wouldn't care what they did with their lives and wouldn't care if they were on a path leading to hell. See, we don't hate them, if we hated them we'd want to harm them, but we love them and want to help them. The same goes for any other type of sinner (drunkard, murderer, thief, etc.). We hate the sin, but we love the sinners.
[ Do you believe there is such a thing as good and evil?]
If you answered yes, you just admitted that you believe in God. Because if there is no God, there is no standard for good or evil. So if you're an atheist you cannot logically believe in the existence of good and evil.
I love how everyone here doesn't trust prayer. Pray damnit and see what things you get.
besides, if you don't pray, then you're a failure of a person.
[topic title: If you believe in ghosts, then you have to believe in God]
If God is a spirit, which he is, then how more real are ghosts than God himself? Ghosts are of the devil which is why they are never in accord with good happenings.
I'm going to update this as we different events happen related to Obama and his link to AntiChrist.
What is known so far, which are facts, no speculation:
- when he was born there were record heat waves
- when Hillary dropped out of the race and he was nominated there were record heat waves
- when he was running for office in IL he was a distant candidate but he won two times because the front runners dropped out of the race due to scandals
- recently he has been quoted to dispute the Bible, have you heard of the New Testament Mr Obama?
- the current Pope is the last Pope before the False Prophet.
- December 21, 2012 an event predicted by Nostradamus, Mayans and Book of Revelation happens
- Nostradamus predicted the name of Anti-Christ to be Mabus and that is what you get when you take Obamas names
Too many coincidences, well I will keep you posted.
There's nothing bigoted about it. This isn't a racial issue or a discrimination issue, it's an issue of people living their lives in a very wrong way. Homosexuality is a disgusting lifestyle I will never in a billion years support, and I don't care what anyone says or how the law changes to accommodate them. The only thing I will accept from gays is their complete reversal of their lifestyle, and if they're not willing to do that then I want nothing to do with them, just like I don't enjoy associating with liars and cheats and adulterers who don't change their ways. and I don't want them raising our children and creating another even more screwed up generation.
Minor Question gets big answer (because it's saved in a text file...)
Why is Atheism a Joke?
Serious version: Atheism is a joke for various reasons. Its proponents disagree completely on different (sometimes key) points, and often the theories they put forward it have simply overwhelming evidence against it, but since many have based their careers around it (such as Evolutionary Biology) they can't admit it's false without being out of a job. Therefore, instead of going where the evidence leads – there is a creator of the universe, they attempt to find the best natural answer instead of the best answer.
Another reason is society’s view of Atheism. Take Freethinkers as an example. As far as they’re concerned, there isn’t substantial scientific evidence for there being a God. Therefore, there isn’t one. Do you see the problem here? If not, think about it the other way around. There is isn’t substantial scientific evidence for there NOT being a God, so therefore there is one. It’s a contradiction (and this very contradiction was what made me go from Atheism to Agnosticism three years ago). But, no, people choose that unless science can prove there is a God they’ll be Atheists, which in terms of a reasonable decision is— well, look at the point about three lines up.
If you wanted, I could go on, but I really don’t feel like it. Look up some Lee Strobel books if you want, such as The Case for a Creator.
Less Serious Version: Chavs, Gangsters and other such unsocial groups are Atheists. Since they are, they are the main view of Atheism as a whole, since they’re often the loudest and first to proclaim their views. Another reason is that Atheists make absurd claims, such as ‘The Bible/Quran/Torah/other holy book isn’t real’. Uh, hello? *Picks Up Bible* Yep, this seems pretty real and tangible to me— Finally, Atheists claim that our body is made up of something called DNA. That’s all well and good, but DNA stands for Deoxyribonucleic Acid. Acid! What happens when Acid comes into contact with our skin? It dissolves! So, our body simply cannot contain this substance since it’s completely unrealistic.
I like the second version.
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Most people have a joke in their signature, so I'll join the bandwagon:
Atheism.
[Topic title: Is atheism a mental condition?]
I was thinking about what causes people to be atheists and I thought that maybe it isn't their fault, maybe it's a mental condition that prevents them from being able to see God and his creation? Surely if it is a problem with their mind they can be fixed with counseling?
Does anyone have any info on this subject, I'm sure I'm not the first person to suggest this.
It's just evidence. I'm open-minded enough to not limit the God I worship by mere science.
The probability of a human brain coming into existence is very low. Astronomically so, even given billions of years which most secular humanists believe in. The odds of the complexities of the human brain coming about by sheer chance are incredibly low.
However, the odds of over six billion of them coming into existence by random chance is far lower. Abysmally low.
Therefore, for the rational atheist, (Is that an oxymoron? True materialists don't actually believe in the mind....) it is far more likely that only you actually exist, and that everything else is an illusion. That's just so much more probable than that six billion plus brains came into existence randomly. Isn't it?
You can trust me when I say that the current laws in California will be overturned. Those four Stalinist judges who were secretly appointed by the vicious ACLU will be out of office by next year. I am very sure of this.
Homosexuals shouldn't have the right to be homosexual. They can have relationships with people of the opposite sex just like everyone else in the world. We didn't win the Revolutionary War and declare independence so people could have sexual relationships with people of the same sex.
No the fact that the lower the intelligence a person has the more likely they are to breed completely disproves evolution.
I wish scientists would explain how something was created from nothing. Their theories are mostly moronic. (Evolution) How can something recognize the need to change and then change it's offsprings DNA.
[Response to 4 young Boy Scouts killed in tornados]
Of course, if all four of those casualties ended up in eternal paradise, that would be pretty all-loving, wouldn't it?
[I know tons of Christians who never try to convert atheists to Christianity.]
Then either they don't <I>really</I> believe, or they just don't mind if you suffer in eternal hellfire and damnation.
Some nation's judicial system's like America's are becoming too laid back on capital punishment. Nowadays not even everyone thats charged with murder receives capital punishment., but yet God punishes and condemns those that kill others so are Government's to believe they are more forgiving then god?
If it were God's decision he'd have someone condemned to damnation instantly, but yet a political system allows its subordinates and citizen's to run free with the abominable slaughter of another human being?
in refute I'd like to say perhaps America would leave the actual punishment until the afterlife while they let a murderer live on until his judgment day.
[Actually, why don't you tell us what would convince you of Earth being older than 6000 years old? Seriously, what would convince you of that?]
After I die and God tells me that the earth is older.
[About texts written more than 6000 years ago]
How do we know they were written more then 6,000 years ago? It doestn't say the age in the text but rather secular scientist have attempted to guess the age through faulty radiometric dating methods. I prefer to go by a written eyewitness account of history through the Scriptures.
[In response to "Why pray?"]
1) God may base his decision on what is prayed. Note the story of Moses and the Golden Calf; God was going to destroy the Israelites until Moses begged God to spare them.
2) Prayer doesn't change God; he's immovable. Prayer changes you.
[Why are they (females) physically incapable of being ordained?]
Because of divine mandate. The Church has no power to confer the priesthood unto women. It's not that the Holy See is choosing not to ordain: they simply cannot. It is not within the power of the Pope or bishops to alter divine mandate.
[And I don't think "sexist" means what you think it means.]
It's funny how you keep saying this yet you're wrong every single time. You are devaluating the female sex by trying to say they are the same as men, which is simply and obviously untrue.
I don't hate anyone. I just don't have respect for people who don't believe in God and I don't hold their intelligence in any kind of regard whatsoever.
It sounds perfectly fair to me, though, because your beliefs really don't matter. As a Christian, I couldn't care less about the beliefs of nonbelievers, because their beliefs are false and meaningless and worthy of all the scorn of the world. I have no respect for the beliefs of non-Christians whatsoever, and this is particularly because of conversations like this one where they show me the fact that they do not deserve respect for their beliefs.
We are not talking about your interpretation of Genesis or your devotion to God.
[Oh, but we are. You're saying that I'm not a Christian, but an agnostic, if I accept the Theory of Evolution and everything else that usually goes with it in the scientific consensus. You're yet to tell me how that makes me not a Christian, as I believe I have fulfilled the criteria that actually matters.....]
Saying you truly believe God exists but also truly believe Evolution is completely real is a logical fallacy and hypocritical. You are just trying to please the other side and save you beliefs.
The Bible talks about evolution and says that people that believe in it are fools. Does that meet your criteria?
Faith is the sure belief in something that is proven.
Like the wind. You cant see it but you have constant proof that it is there and you know what it can do.
Whereas Atheists are like those who try to come up with a theory as to why things get blown over instead of accepting that there is a wind.
Actually, being an atheist is far more irrational then belief in God. Why? because when somebody says their is no God, their implying that they have infinite knowledge. Since God by definition is an infinite being, what an atheist really says is the "I have infinite knowledge of everything in the universe to tell you that there is no one with infinite knowledge."
Why are Asian parents so patently terrible at naming their kids?
[...]
It's just laughable. So terrible and outdated. And a lot of times it really pisses me off. The following is a list of just awful Asian names that people I know have had the displeasure of being named (most ridiculous in bold):
Grace
<b>Roman</b>
Titus
Ellen
<b>Eunice</b>
<b>Hibisca</b>
Simona
Joyce
Lucy
Wilson
Carlin
Geraldine
Clara
Lisa
Albert
Patricia
Helen
Carol
Cynthia
Cindy
Susan
Jeanette
Janet
<b>Linda</b>
Jane
Tina
Diana
Diane
Florence
Spencer
Connie
Lois
Jeannie
Alice
<b>Nancy</b>
Henrietta
Henry
Faye
Faith
What gives?
[Later in the thread...]
I have no idea why I find it offensive, but I do. Seeing names such as "Nancy Yu" and "Lucy Wang" simply irritate me. It's not a conscious decision. Perhaps in order to counteract this problem for the benefit of the parents, children, and peers, we should place much more emphasis in teaching English in these countries on popular, appropriate first names.
Stop assuming that the bible is not on the same level as scientific explanations.
I don't give a care about beliefs; mathematics and science- both of which are hated by the vast majority of the population- should be used to determine which religions are right and wrong. Instead, we worry more about being politically correct and trying to please the masses than trying to use science. I wouldn't be surprised if the evolutionists tried to press legislation to remove the teaching of the scientific method from school.
It's kind of funny. If we were so called "evolving" wouldn't we still evolve now? Why is every human on the planet in the same stage of evolution? Why wouldn't 1 group of people evolve less than another? Some people are still cannibals but they are just as intelligent as us.
Do insects become humans? What actually became humans? Insects have been around since the beginning of earth though only the humans evolved? Honestly what kind of creature was the beginning of evolution human?
Humans as far as humans can remember have always been what we are today. Isn't it a bit too coincidental that we are at the peak of evolution? If evolution is true it should always continue and we should turn into giants as large as mountains in a few million years because evolution believers believe humans were as large as insects before so why wouldn't we evolve into planets or something? There, a new theory for you. Every planet is an evolved human.
(Someone mentions the Crusades were a time when religion was wrong.)
Whether you know it or not, it has done much more good than it has done bad. Don't let your blind hate for religion cloud that. Something doesn't have be necessarily "true" in order to do good. I hate this kind of ignorance.
SO im guessing you believe in the big band theory? I hope you know that science has proved that the big bang theory had about a 1 in .0000000000000000000000000000000000000001 X a google Chance in working out the exact way it did to make the universe. God made everything. Im sorry for anyone who actualy believes in the BBT i really am.
(Since atheism is NOT a religion making the idea of all politicians governing on strictly secular principles is NOT violating their freedom of religion.)
WRONG. Your Secular Progressive Atheism Mandate is contrary to whatever religion they presume. You're telling me to contradict my religious freedoms. I'll take freedom over the tyranny you offer any day.
Undead,
Libearlism is a mental disorder. The ACLU fights to torture and starve innocent people like Terri Schaivo to death while filing lawsuit after lawsuit to protect terrorists, pedophiles, and illegals injured while raping and plundering like vikings on our southern border.
Libs support killing a human being in the womb, abortion. Pro choice? It's the only example in the english language where people leave out the most important part of the sentence-- the right to choose... the right to choose what? The right to choose evil, that's what. The right to choose murder for your child.
Freedom is not defined as the ability to do whatever you want, freedom is to do what you ought, or SHOULD. You never have the right to choose evil. LICENSE, is the ability to do whatever you want, LICENSE is what would enable you to kill a child in the womb, not freedom.
More Christians have been murdered and persecuted for their faith in the last century than all of history combined. And YOU think it's because they want to be? Don't tell me we make reasons up to be persucted. People like you hate the conviction it brings on your heart so you lash out.Just like the people did with Jesus Christ, you know what they did to him. It's no different than what people like you are doing toChristianstoday. You show your ignorance and disregard for human life and what someone believes in. How many athiest have you heard die for their Atheism? Now..how many Christians have you heard of dying for their faith?I've never heard of a man dying for a lie. Thousands of Chinese and middle eastern Christians are dying each day for Christ...and you Atheist sit here and crack jokes and laugh pointing your crooked little fingers while others are dying and being riddiculed for their faith. So many Christian organizations and people help the world out and this is the gratitude you people give them. The Salvation army, YMCA,The Red Cross, The entire USA, and so many more were all started by Christians. How many Atheist groups have helped mankind? The ACLU?? all they do is fight to get God out of society. It's really sad that you are so selfish as to hate so many others for their faith in the one who came so save the world from their sins.