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Thus we see that God requires death for homosexuality just as he requires death for murder. This tells us that homosexuality is at least equal to the heinousness of murder. All homosexuals should be regarded by every society to be just as much criminals as are cold-blooded murderers.
Although homosexuality is at least as heinous as the crime of murder, it can be and is often more heinous than murder. When a person commits the crime of murder, he may not murder but one person and may never commit the crime again. Or even if he murders 10 or a 100 people, at some point his murders stop. But homosexuals often remain such their entire lives and they may commit the act hundreds of time. They may also spread the AIDs virus to many innocent people who may die from the AIDs.
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Don't fundies realise that the 10 commandments were written for the Jews and as part of the OT shouldn't even be part of Christianity? If I remember my documentaries correctly, the OT was almost left out of the Bible and was only included basically to give Christianity some sort of credibility by connecting it to Judaism (probably spelt that wrong).
Of course if I've got that wrong then do correct me.
Hey, "Society," you're a hateful, evil prick, and any deity who has the least bit of use for you is unworthy of worship--not to mention that homosexuality has nothing to do with the Commandments.
Excuse me, but since I live within city limits, I have some rape victims to stone to death (Deut. 22:23-24). Later, taters.
Yeah, homosexuality is an abomination, just like eating shellfish. Had any shrimp or crab lately, Robbie?
Have you ever sneezed, Robbie? You could be spreading legionnaire's disease. Heck, you might spread the flu to some hapless, frail elderly persons... and murder them all. Maybe you should be stoned to death, too.
Tonight catch the new sit-com, "Moses and the Troll"!!!
One of them is a man marked by god to deliver the bad news of what you can't do, the other is a lovable scamp of a troll with an I.Q. of 33!!! But since they are both severely repressed homosexuals, hilarity is BOUND to ensue!!!
Leaving their hometown for violation of sodomy laws, the duo finds an apartment in San Francisco!!! They're like the Odd Couple, only this time, they're BOTH gay!!!
Moses: "Hey Trolly, I asked you to stop leaving your toenail clippings all over my throw rug. I went to 17 places before I found the one I wanted."
Trolly: "Dirty Faggot, Dirty Faggot!!!"
Moses: "Oh Trolly, how can I stay mad at you? C'mere you big lug, give me a kiss!"
*smooching*
(crowd: "Whooo-ooh!:")
Trolly: "Me Dirty Faggot?" *shrugs* returns to kissing
*applause*
...and scene fade.
Your reasoning has important flaws. One, God requires death in the OT for crimes that, not today, but since Jesus's times were no longer regarded as such. So, would you say that those who work on Sabbath are similar to murderers?, or those who eat pork?, I mean, it's Jesus himself who mocks that legalism, not me.
Second, homosexuality is an orientation, a tendence, not a fact. A homosexual person can remain celibate or in a monogamic relationship(exactly as any heterosexual, for that matter). Regarding AIDS, man, it's a fucking virus who doesn't care whether you're married, straight, homosexual or whatever. It's transmitted through sexual fluids(specially semen)and blood. So, who are those "innocent people"?, other homosexual men who engage in a relationship with another one?, people who go with a prostitute who might have taken it from a previous client?.
The psycho god worshipped by fundies also requires death for kids who sass their parents and for people who work on the sabbath. So, after church this Sunday, why not stop by the local McDonalds and gun down all the teenagers working at the counter? Two -for-one will get you an extra jewel in your heavenly crown!
Congratulations, the SPEPTC (Speptic? HAH!) is a conglomeration of psychopaths!
And look, our own JoJo the Copypasting Troll seems to be a fan of theirs. He's really well-spoken considering he's only recently dragged himself out of the pondscum as a semi-sentient being. Something the two have in common, I think.
The Bible also calls for death for adultery (Lev. 20:10, Deut. 22:22), working on the Sabbath (Num. 15:32-36) and disobeying your parents (Deut. 21:18-21). In fact, for the latter two (but not for homosexuality), it calls for stoning, an especially harsh method of execution. Furthermore, Deut. 27 contains a whole list of things that are "cursed", followed by a list in Deut. 28 of the horrible things (including, eventually, a terrible death) that will happen to you if you do them. Homosexuality is not on the list, although killing for hire, dishonoring your parents, moving a surveying stake and misleading a blind man are. This is just yet another homophobe cherry-picking the Bible for justification of his bigotry.
LOL! #265540 can't even copy and paste the inanity properly. I like the way you left it hanging at "dirty" on the end there. Trolls are cute.
JoJo the Sexually Fixated is horribly abusing our 'anyone can post' policy.
I do wish he'd actually post something worth responding, at least.
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See, I know how to use a word processor, too.
Aw, c'mon guys, give little JoJo a break. He's like 11 years old and only repeats what his mom's told him. And she's got to be right, seeing that she's got all those beautiful dresses he likes to wear. Once he reaches puberty and realises that he still wants to play doctor and nurse with other boys he'll change his tune. :-)
to paraphrase: "murder is bad... kill the homosexuals" isn't he just contradicting himself?
Oh, and only 30% of new AIDS cases are caused by gay sex, where as over 50% is caused by straight sex, so you loose.
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Thus we see that logic requires death for Fundamentalist Brainwashing just as it requires death for murder. This tells us that Fundamentalist Brainwashing is at least equal to the heinousness of murder. All religious fundamentalists should be regarded by every society to be just as much criminals as are cold-blooded murderers.
Although Fundamentalist Brainwashing is at least as heinous as the crime of murder, it can be and is often more heinous than murder. When a person commits the crime of murder, he may not murder but one person and may never commit the crime again. Or even if he murders 10 or a 100 people, at some point his murders stop. But Fundamentalists often remain such their entire lives and they may commit the act hundreds of time. They may also spread the Stupid Fundy virus to many innocent people who may die from the Stupid.
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Society for the Practical Establishment and Perpetuation of the HUMAN RACE.
I know that some may think of me as a bigot for this, but the only difference between my comment and the original is that there really are good reasons to treat fundamentalist religious brainwashing as a crime. Lessening violence, promoting critical thought over emotional hyperbole, and delivering the gullible (and their victims) from dangerous superstitions spring to mind.
On the other hand, not one fundy has ever offered any real reasons for hating gays, except the frustration and rage caused by their own pathetic repressed sexuality.
Thus we see that God requires death for homosexuality just as he requires death for murder. This tells us that homosexuality is at least equal to the heinousness of murder. 'It's hated by this individual, so it's wrong'. Brilliant reasoning.
'Thus we see that Kim Jong-Il requires death for dissent just as he requires death for murder. This tells us that dissent is at least equal to the heinousness of murder.'
Listen to yourself, fundie.
so, consentual sex between two people that love each other and are monogamous but happen to be of the same sex is worse then somebody that murders 100 people?
Yeah, that's really messed up. And so are you.
They may also spread the AIDs virus to many innocent people who may die from the AIDs.
Interesting... If homosexuality is worse than murder, gay people are most definitely not innocent in your view yet the only people to whom gays could spread aids are also gay (or bi, but that would also be a sin under the OP's reasoning.)
"Funny thing is Jesus abolished the need for us to follow the 10 when he died. I wish you people would remember this...read your apologetics please "
no just the law. the ten commandments and the law were not quite the same. most of the pentateuch is out, but the 10 commandments are still in. however, it's the law, not the 10c that condemns homosexuality.
Without the mention of AIDS (Reasoning: AIDS is not an exclusively homosexual disease, and many STRAIGHT men knowingly and unknowingly spread it too) I dare anyone to tell me how an act of love between two consenting adults and be comparable to murder in any way, shape or form. And remember...if you go into Levitican law, you can't cherry pick, and Paul condemned ALL sex. Not just homosexual sex. He just said marital sex is the LEAST sinful of it all.
So, killing a human being is just as heinous as what? Two people loving each other?
I don't see the big difference between me and my husband loving each other, and my brother's friend loving his boyfriend.
What's with the small "s" at the end of AIDS? Most people contracting AIDS today are heterosexuals. If the "innocent people" have unprotected sex with gay persons, they can't be that "innocent", in your mindset.
You’re mixing best case and worst case and trying to compare the two.
“he may not murder but one person”
“But homosexuals often remain such their entire lives”
The number of offenses doesn’t make the crime more or less heinous. Murder is taking an entire life.
Sex, if between consenting adults, is not ending a life. You’re just accustomed to seeing murder on TV, so it’s not as offensive to you.
And if your god was really omniscient, he’d know every time someone planned a murder and planned to do the gay sex.
And if he’s omnipotent, he could stop both at the instant they make the decision, before the act is completed.
Humanity would observe, if you touch a weapon with bad intent in your heart, you fall down dead.
And there’d be this weird condition where guys were found dead with a hard-on, no idea why.
That you claim gays could do teh gay hundreds of times, with no apparent heart attacks or other problems, speaks against god being all that against it.
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