What came first, the chicken or the egg. Well, obviously the egg can't create itself, but the first chicken had to come from an egg.
This old saying, actually proves God without doubt..Nothing can be created, without a creator. God created the chicken...first.
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Okay.
"armistead1 is a moron."
Bryan65
With regards to the watch-watchmaker argument (of which this is a variant), a watch could come together all by itself. The expected number of times this will happen in the lifetime of a universe is less than 1 (probably siginificantly so), but it could happen.
Now go look up the anthropic principle.
Well, obviously, there were eggs long before there were chicken. But if the question relates specifically to a <i>chicken</i> egg, then the question is whether one defines a chicken egg as an egg from which a chicken hatches, or an egg laid by a hen.
Not that I grasp where deities fit into all this.
Question: Which came first - the chicken or the egg?
Answer: Neither came first. The chicken's egg is an attribute of the chicken. As the chicken developed, so did its egg. What came "first" was the most recent ancestor of the chicken, and before that (ad nauseam ) came the first organisms.
God need have nothing to do with it. It's been shown that complex organic materials can be formed via random interactions given raw materials and ionizing radiation. Formation of living matter is not a very large step beyond that.
A taekwondo instructor I used to study under came up with this answer:
"The egg came first, because it's simpler."
He then said that's the same reason God created Adam before Eve.
Which came first, the chicken or the egg?
Neither. A circle as no beginning. The egg developed with the chicken. Seriously, this guy is a moron.
TB Tabby: It's just a koan that was written before dinosaurs were common knowledge. Koans aren't supposed to have answers. They're just sopposed to clear the mind of rational thought.
Looks like it worked on this one, doesn't it, TB?
"This old saying, actually proves God without doubt.."
What if chickens are a master race of extra-terrestrials who created us?
inmate22841: Depends on your definition of "sound." Is sound merely a vibration within specific frequencies, or our perception of it? :P But essentially, you're correct. Moving along, what about the fridge light? And can that be used to prove or disprove God?
The chicken must have come first, unless God sat on the eggs.
Your, sir, just won the Intertubes! :P
Well obviously, first comes the egg, beat it with salt and pepper, then soak the chicken it until well coated, then flour it, then put in a skillet of Crisco oil heated to...oh, he's not talking about fried chicken.
then where did God come from?
As for whether the chicken or the egg came first it was the egg, because once something that was not quite a chicken laid an egg that contained an embryo that was a chicken, which then developed into a chicken.
... it does nothing of the sort. The reason the egg would have come first is that the first fowl one could consider to be of the chicken species proper came from parents which did not quite qualify for it.
Evolution, speciation and other terms with far too many letters for you to understand explain such matters quite simply, and without needing to resort to invisible magical sky-pixies of anger-most-high and inferiority complexes.
Well let's see...
Chicken's came from chickenlike birds that laid eggs - good luck delineating where the first chicken came from.
Birds, came from dinosaurs, which diverged from amphibians - all laying eggs so far which were a kind of tetrapoda which evolved from lobe finned fishes. Still laying eggs, and the vertebrates laid eggs too and tracking back to the invertebrates we can finally see where penises started to evolve for specific insemination instead of mass spawnings. Really though, to find the first eggs you need to go back to the corals and jellies and the first multicellular communities of single celled organisms.
Right. Nothing can be created without a creator. Except for all of the things that came about through evolution. In fact, by your own limited reasoning, you said a chicken had to come from an egg, but if god made it, it didn’t come from an egg. So you’re like, wrong squared.
And this, people, is the product of average intelligence.
Weep for the future. Weep for us all.
That question is way too genreal to even scratch the surface. A better one would be, "Which came first, brown chickens, brown eggs, white chickens, or white eggs?" /sarcasm
"This old saying, actually proves God without doubt.
People like you will use arguments like that and say they prove God without a doubt. The trouble is, you have to have no doubt as to God's dubious existence for them to be valid.
evolution is a long and gradual process however if this question does have an answer it is that the egg came first. a catalyst of evolution is positive mutation. it is possible that at some stage in the past a bird almost indistinguishable from a chicken gave birth to a chicken because of a genetic mutation, this would mean the egg came first. it is impossible for the chicken to have come first because something cannot come from nothing, it is against the law of physics.
There's an easy way to answer this:
The bird evolved from the Raptor, the first dinosaur with feathers and a partially hollow bone structure.
There, problem solved, God wasn't mentioned once.
I like how we can solve most of these old 'unsolvable' questions.
As for the tree in the forest, sound is a perception, so if it falls where nobody can hear it, it just created a sonic 'shockwave'. Once there is an ear, that wave becomes a sound.
It it just me, or did he just contradicted himself ?
"The first chicken had to come from an egg."
"God created the chicken...first."
HAHAHAHAHAHA... Ha. Ha.
Ohhhh dear.
"Well, obviously the egg can't create itself, but *the first chicken had to come from an egg*."
So by that logic....God is an egg!! All hail our eggy master!! Now who wants French toast?
I don't have the heart to tell him that since Chickens were hand bred, God had nothing to do with them. The precursor creature, that can be argued, I guess, but Chickens are a man made creature.
That statement is false because if it were true, it would necessitate of infinite line of bootstrapping processes, all ultimately leading to God, who then created everything.
Confused?
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